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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> on 2005/12/03 02:20:40 UTC
Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
We still need POP and IMAP transports for our JavaMail
implementation. Do any of you have some POP or IMAP client code
sitting around, or would you like to write one?
-dain
Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 12/4/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> one solution is to wait until CDDL binaries as officially blessed for
> apache distribution, and then just bundle the one's from Sun's
> Glassfish project, which are probably fairly well tested...
Geir, do you know if there's been movement in this area at all? And if
so, any guess on how long this process might take?
Bruce
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Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
one solution is to wait until CDDL binaries as officially blessed for
apache distribution, and then just bundle the one's from Sun's
Glassfish project, which are probably fairly well tested...
yes, this is more than a one person job :)
geir
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> Thanks Bruce!
>
> Is anyone one else interested? This is definitely more then a one
> person job.
>
> -dain
>
> On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>
>> On 12/2/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
>>> We still need POP and IMAP transports for our JavaMail
>>> implementation. Do any of you have some POP or IMAP client code
>>> sitting around, or would you like to write one?
>>
>> I wish I had this code just lying around because there's a fair
>> amount
>> of effort involved in going through the RFCs for each protocol and
>> modeling everything.
>>
>> I started to look into this last night to try to guage the amount of
>> effort required because I've got some experience working fairly
>> deeply
>> with IMAP in the past (see http://www.horde.org/imp/). But it's
>> been a
>> while since I've dug into the RFCs related to mail protocols.
>>
>> Below is my very rough map of what's needed:
>>
>> The protocols stacks:
>> 1) Socket-based connection objects for each protocol
>> 2) Full authentication and crypto providers
>> 3) The full suite of IMAP commands, responses, etc. for communicating
>> with the server
>> (I'm sure there's more that I'm overlooking here)
>>
>> The transports:
>> 1) A model of each message store
>> 2) A model of each message type
>>
>> And of course tests for everything ;-).
>>
>> I'll try to get started on the IMAP side of things in the next day or
>> two, after I complete a book chapter ;-). Once that's complete I'll
>> see what I can do with the POP3 side.
>>
>> Bruce
>> --
>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D
>> \!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> );'
>>
>> The Castor Project
>> http://www.castor.org/
>>
>> Apache Geronimo
>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>
--
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geirm@apache.org
Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 12/4/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> Actually, thinking about it for a few seconds further, doesn't the
> JAMES project already have code for this? My foggy memory recalls
> that I've used JAMES to talk to an exchange server using IMAP....
The only info I could find in my research on this topic is from here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/server-dev@james.apache.org/msg05405.html
I've looked through what's there and it's very incomplete.
Bruce
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);'
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Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Actually, thinking about it for a few seconds further, doesn't the
JAMES project already have code for this? My foggy memory recalls
that I've used JAMES to talk to an exchange server using IMAP....
geir
On Dec 3, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> Thanks Bruce!
>
> Is anyone one else interested? This is definitely more then a one
> person job.
>
> -dain
>
> On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>
>> On 12/2/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
>>> We still need POP and IMAP transports for our JavaMail
>>> implementation. Do any of you have some POP or IMAP client code
>>> sitting around, or would you like to write one?
>>
>> I wish I had this code just lying around because there's a fair
>> amount
>> of effort involved in going through the RFCs for each protocol and
>> modeling everything.
>>
>> I started to look into this last night to try to guage the amount of
>> effort required because I've got some experience working fairly
>> deeply
>> with IMAP in the past (see http://www.horde.org/imp/). But it's
>> been a
>> while since I've dug into the RFCs related to mail protocols.
>>
>> Below is my very rough map of what's needed:
>>
>> The protocols stacks:
>> 1) Socket-based connection objects for each protocol
>> 2) Full authentication and crypto providers
>> 3) The full suite of IMAP commands, responses, etc. for communicating
>> with the server
>> (I'm sure there's more that I'm overlooking here)
>>
>> The transports:
>> 1) A model of each message store
>> 2) A model of each message type
>>
>> And of course tests for everything ;-).
>>
>> I'll try to get started on the IMAP side of things in the next day or
>> two, after I complete a book chapter ;-). Once that's complete I'll
>> see what I can do with the POP3 side.
>>
>> Bruce
>> --
>> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D
>> \!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
>> );'
>>
>> The Castor Project
>> http://www.castor.org/
>>
>> Apache Geronimo
>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Thanks Bruce!
Is anyone one else interested? This is definitely more then a one
person job.
-dain
On Dec 3, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> On 12/2/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
>> We still need POP and IMAP transports for our JavaMail
>> implementation. Do any of you have some POP or IMAP client code
>> sitting around, or would you like to write one?
>
> I wish I had this code just lying around because there's a fair amount
> of effort involved in going through the RFCs for each protocol and
> modeling everything.
>
> I started to look into this last night to try to guage the amount of
> effort required because I've got some experience working fairly deeply
> with IMAP in the past (see http://www.horde.org/imp/). But it's been a
> while since I've dug into the RFCs related to mail protocols.
>
> Below is my very rough map of what's needed:
>
> The protocols stacks:
> 1) Socket-based connection objects for each protocol
> 2) Full authentication and crypto providers
> 3) The full suite of IMAP commands, responses, etc. for communicating
> with the server
> (I'm sure there's more that I'm overlooking here)
>
> The transports:
> 1) A model of each message store
> 2) A model of each message type
>
> And of course tests for everything ;-).
>
> I'll try to get started on the IMAP side of things in the next day or
> two, after I complete a book chapter ;-). Once that's complete I'll
> see what I can do with the POP3 side.
>
> Bruce
> --
> perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!
> G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> );'
>
> The Castor Project
> http://www.castor.org/
>
> Apache Geronimo
> http://geronimo.apache.org/
Re: Who wants to write POP and IMAP transports?
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 12/2/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> We still need POP and IMAP transports for our JavaMail
> implementation. Do any of you have some POP or IMAP client code
> sitting around, or would you like to write one?
I wish I had this code just lying around because there's a fair amount
of effort involved in going through the RFCs for each protocol and
modeling everything.
I started to look into this last night to try to guage the amount of
effort required because I've got some experience working fairly deeply
with IMAP in the past (see http://www.horde.org/imp/). But it's been a
while since I've dug into the RFCs related to mail protocols.
Below is my very rough map of what's needed:
The protocols stacks:
1) Socket-based connection objects for each protocol
2) Full authentication and crypto providers
3) The full suite of IMAP commands, responses, etc. for communicating
with the server
(I'm sure there's more that I'm overlooking here)
The transports:
1) A model of each message store
2) A model of each message type
And of course tests for everything ;-).
I'll try to get started on the IMAP side of things in the next day or
two, after I complete a book chapter ;-). Once that's complete I'll
see what I can do with the POP3 side.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/
Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/