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svn commit: r1066434 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml

Author: niq
Date: Wed Feb  2 11:55:47 2011
New Revision: 1066434

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1066434&view=rev
Log:
DrBacchus says Fix-a-docs-bug
PR 50396
Historical reasons for using IP-based virtualhosting no longer deserve
to be featured in our docs.

Modified:
    httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml

Modified: httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml?rev=1066434&r1=1066433&r2=1066434&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml (original)
+++ httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml Wed Feb  2 11:55:47 2011
@@ -48,25 +48,15 @@
     IP address and then configure the Apache HTTP Server to recognize
     the different hostnames. Name-based virtual hosting also eases
     the demand for scarce IP addresses. Therefore you should use
-    name-based virtual hosting unless there is a specific reason to
-    choose IP-based virtual hosting. Some reasons why you might consider
-    using IP-based virtual hosting:</p>
-
-    <ul>
-       <li>Name-based virtual hosting often <a href="../ssl/ssl_faq.html#vhosts">
-        cannot be used with SSL secure servers</a>
-        because of the nature of the SSL protocol.</li>
-
-        <li>Some operating systems and network equipment implement bandwidth
-        management techniques that cannot differentiate between hosts unless
-        they are on separate IP addresses.</li>
-    </ul>
+    name-based virtual hosting unless you are using equipment
+    that explicitly demands IP-based hosting.  Historical reasons for
+    IP-based virtual hosting based on client support are no longer
+    applicable to a general-purpose web server.</p>
 
     <p> Name-based virtual hosting builds off of the IP-based virtual host
     selection algorithm, meaning that searches for the proper server name
     occur only between virtual hosts that have the best IP-based address.</p>
 
-
 </section>
 
 <section id="alg"><title>How the server selects the proper name-based virtual host</title>



Re: svn commit: r1066434 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:08 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

> On 2/2/2011 5:55 AM, niq@apache.org wrote:
>> Author: niq
>> Date: Wed Feb  2 11:55:47 2011
>> New Revision: 1066434
>> 
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1066434&view=rev
>> Log:
>> DrBacchus says Fix-a-docs-bug
>> PR 50396
>> Historical reasons for using IP-based virtualhosting no longer deserve
>> to be featured in our docs.
> 
>> +    name-based virtual hosting unless you are using equipment
>> +    that explicitly demands IP-based hosting.  Historical reasons for
>> +    IP-based virtual hosting based on client support are no longer
>> +    applicable to a general-purpose web server.</p>
> 
> Is this so?  Unless the vast majority of browser *clients* support SNI now,
> removing that particular note seems premature.
> 
> In coming years, even that paragraph won't make much sense, but it sure still
> seems relevant at the present time.
> 
> Does anyone have pointers to a commercial site/isp which has completely
> dropped by-IP hosting for SSL in favor of SNI?  Does anyone have information
> about how prevalent SNI support is for active clients?

While SNI is supported by "most browsers", the actual most-prevalent browsers in the actual internet audience don't support it.

--
Rich Bowen
rbowen@rcbowen.com


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Re: svn commit: r1066434 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/manual/vhosts/name-based.xml

Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 2/2/2011 5:55 AM, niq@apache.org wrote:
> Author: niq
> Date: Wed Feb  2 11:55:47 2011
> New Revision: 1066434
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1066434&view=rev
> Log:
> DrBacchus says Fix-a-docs-bug
> PR 50396
> Historical reasons for using IP-based virtualhosting no longer deserve
> to be featured in our docs.

> +    name-based virtual hosting unless you are using equipment
> +    that explicitly demands IP-based hosting.  Historical reasons for
> +    IP-based virtual hosting based on client support are no longer
> +    applicable to a general-purpose web server.</p>

Is this so?  Unless the vast majority of browser *clients* support SNI now,
removing that particular note seems premature.

In coming years, even that paragraph won't make much sense, but it sure still
seems relevant at the present time.

Does anyone have pointers to a commercial site/isp which has completely
dropped by-IP hosting for SSL in favor of SNI?  Does anyone have information
about how prevalent SNI support is for active clients?

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