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Posted to dev@ant.apache.org by Chris Nelson <cn...@einnovation.com> on 2001/11/02 01:41:03 UTC
Ant + SOAP = Rant
After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
* A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
* a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
short for remote ant.
My questions are:
Is this useful to others?
Does this duplicate an existing project?
Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
comments/suggestions are welcome.
--Chris
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Gautam Guliani <ga...@grassroots-tech.com>.
I'd be interested in helping out with this as well.
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At 12:04 PM 11/2/2001 -0800, josh lucas writes:
>I think that support for XML-RPC as well as SOAP would be cool. I would
>be more than willing to help out with that part if needed.
>
>
>josh
>
>Chris Nelson wrote:
>>
>> After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
>> distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
>> hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
>> using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
>>
>> * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
>> * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>>
>> It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
>> useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
>> scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
>> thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
>> short for remote ant.
>>
>> My questions are:
>> Is this useful to others?
>> Does this duplicate an existing project?
>> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
>> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>>
>> Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
>> here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
>> comments/suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by josh lucas <jo...@stonecottage.com>.
I think that support for XML-RPC as well as SOAP would be cool. I would
be more than willing to help out with that part if needed.
josh
Chris Nelson wrote:
>
> After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
> distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
> hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
> using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
>
> * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
> * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>
> It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
> useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
> scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
> thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
> short for remote ant.
>
> My questions are:
> Is this useful to others?
> Does this duplicate an existing project?
> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>
> Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
> here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
> comments/suggestions are welcome.
>
> --Chris
>
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Erik Hatcher <ja...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
Cactus is an in-container JUnit testing framework. While Rant is awesome,
Cactus isn't the right place for it. It seems to me that good ol' ant-dev
is the right place for it.
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Surette" <ph...@home.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
> This would be useful to me.
>
> Should this be part of the cactus project? Someone
> mentioned this project yesterday, I haven't had time to check
> it out.
> http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/index.html
>
> Chris Nelson wrote:
> >
> > After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
> > distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
> > hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
> > using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
> >
> > * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
> > * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
> >
> > It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
> > useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
> > scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
> > thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
> > short for remote ant.
> >
> > My questions are:
> > Is this useful to others?
> > Does this duplicate an existing project?
> > Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
> > If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
> >
> > Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
> > here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
> > comments/suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Chris Nelson <cn...@einnovation.com>.
Cactus is a very useful project indeed -- it allows you to run Junit
test cases inside an appserver. Its kind of a client-server Junit. I
don't really think there is much overlap with this tho.
Phil Surette wrote:
>This would be useful to me.
>
>Should this be part of the cactus project? Someone
>mentioned this project yesterday, I haven't had time to check
>it out.
>http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/index.html
>
>Chris Nelson wrote:
>
>>After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
>>distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
>>hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
>>using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
>>
>>* A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
>>* a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>>
>>It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
>>useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
>>scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
>>thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
>>short for remote ant.
>>
>>My questions are:
>>Is this useful to others?
>>Does this duplicate an existing project?
>>Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
>>If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>>
>>Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
>>here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
>>comments/suggestions are welcome.
>>
>>--Chris
>>
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Phil Surette <ph...@home.com>.
This would be useful to me.
Should this be part of the cactus project? Someone
mentioned this project yesterday, I haven't had time to check
it out.
http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus/index.html
Chris Nelson wrote:
>
> After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
> distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
> hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
> using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
>
> * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
> * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>
> It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
> useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
> scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
> thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
> short for remote ant.
>
> My questions are:
> Is this useful to others?
> Does this duplicate an existing project?
> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>
> Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
> here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
> comments/suggestions are welcome.
>
> --Chris
>
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Jose Alberto Fernandez <j_...@yahoo.com>.
I think this is a brilliant idea, but would suggest you allow passing <properties> as parameters of the call just like with <ant> or <antcall>.
Jose Alberto
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nelson" <cn...@einnovation.com>
To: <an...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:41 AM
Subject: Ant + SOAP = Rant
> After needing such a thing for awhile, I have started developing a
> distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch Ant builds on remote
> hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so that is what I am
> using. After an afternoon of work I have the following:
>
> * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments (buildFile, target)
> * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>
> It seems like with just a bit more work I can produce something pretty
> useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this would be outside the
> scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think otherwise). I have been
> thinking of this as a new project, which I have dubbed "Rant" which is
> short for remote ant.
>
> My questions are:
> Is this useful to others?
> Does this duplicate an existing project?
> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>
> Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will post what I have
> here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth sharing. Any
> comments/suggestions are welcome.
>
> --Chris
>
>
>
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Re: doclet for ant
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>.
no, not yet.
One would be nice, presumably one that hooks off xdoclet.sourceforget.net,
so that you hava an ant task go from java source to an xml docfile (and then
anakia it into shape), or into an task declaration for incorporation into
the (presumably) forthcoming xml based task descriptors
----- Original Message -----
From: <de...@canoo.com>
To: "Ant Developers List" <an...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 05:43
Subject: doclet for ant
> hi ,
> we developed several ant tasks.
> Now we come to the stage that we wanna distribute our collection.
> In order to do this we wrote JAVADOC to it, but arent completely satisfied
with it.
> We dont wanna write what the code is doing but wanna give an ANT user all
the
> information needed to use them - such as your ANT-documentation.
>
> is there an An-Doclet to generat such info? (Antlet?)
>
>
> detlef
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Re: doclet for ant
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001, detlef brendle <de...@canoo.com> wrote:
> is there an An-Doclet to generat such info? (Antlet?)
Nothing I was aware of - we once had somebody working on an DTD for
task documentations and a doclet that would generate XML descriptions
from sources, but I guess this one has died by now.
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doclet for ant
Posted by de...@canoo.com.
hi ,
we developed several ant tasks.
Now we come to the stage that we wanna distribute our collection.
In order to do this we wrote JAVADOC to it, but arent completely satisfied with it.
We dont wanna write what the code is doing but wanna give an ANT user all the
information needed to use them - such as your ANT-documentation.
is there an An-Doclet to generat such info? (Antlet?)
detlef
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Jose Alberto Fernandez <j_...@yahoo.com>.
Although I see no problem on hosting this tasks here, this is a good example of an ANT library that could be shipped as part of the Apache SOAP project. After all, you need a full SOAP installation in order to run this.
It would make a good precedent if we settle on a packaging format and other projects can start putting their antlibs out.
Jose Alberto
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From: "Stefan Bodewig" <bo...@apache.org>
To: <an...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2001, Chris Nelson <cn...@einnovation.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this useful to others?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Does this duplicate an existing project?
>
> I'm not aware of a project that yours would duplicate, CruisControl
> does have a servlet that can run builds, but certainly doesn't export
> this as a webservice.
>
> > Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
>
> Could very well be possible ...
>
> > If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>
> Of course.
>
> Stefan
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 01 Nov 2001, Chris Nelson <cn...@einnovation.com> wrote:
> Is this useful to others?
Yes.
> Does this duplicate an existing project?
I'm not aware of a project that yours would duplicate, CruisControl
does have a servlet that can run builds, but certainly doesn't export
this as a webservice.
> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
Could very well be possible ...
> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
Of course.
Stefan
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Re: Ant + SOAP = Rant
Posted by jp Morgan <jp...@yahoo.com>.
Very interesting. Would love to learn more and get
involved.
--- Chris Nelson <cn...@einnovation.com> wrote:
> After needing such a thing for awhile, I have
> started developing a
> distributed version of Ant that uses SOAP to lauch
> Ant builds on remote
> hosts. I've worked with Apache SOAP a good bit, so
> that is what I am
> using. After an afternoon of work I have the
> following:
>
> * A SOAP service which takes 2 arguments
> (buildFile, target)
> * a taskdef which invokes this service over SOAP
>
> It seems like with just a bit more work I can
> produce something pretty
> useful (at least to me). I am guessing that this
> would be outside the
> scope of Ant itself (but chime in if you think
> otherwise). I have been
> thinking of this as a new project, which I have
> dubbed "Rant" which is
> short for remote ant.
>
> My questions are:
> Is this useful to others?
> Does this duplicate an existing project?
> Would Apache be interested in hosting it?
> If not, could it be linked to from the Ant website?
>
> Regardless of the answers to these questions, I will
> post what I have
> here as soon as I have enough to feel like its worth
> sharing. Any
> comments/suggestions are welcome.
>
> --Chris
>
>
>
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