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[VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
for you to review. See
http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
the
distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to

http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/

I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
been
conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
that, so hopefully this one will be fine.

[ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
[ ] +/- 0
[ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1

The rat log is available at
http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>

Here's my +1

-- 
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Principal Engineer, IONA
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
+1 from me.   This build looks much better than the earlier builds.

Dan


On Tuesday 22 May 2007 03:03, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also
> included in the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apach
>e/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first
> vote has been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed
> since that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<h
>ttp://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1

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Principal Engineer
IONA
P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@skynet.be>.
And here's my +1 too

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also 
> included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/ 
>
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first 
> vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed 
> since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt> 
>
>
> Here's my +1
>


Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.

thanks,
dims

On 5/22/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 looks good to me
>
> On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> > for you to review. See
> > http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> > for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> > the
> > distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
> >
> > I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
> > been
> > conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> > that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> > [ ] +/- 0
> > [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> >
> > The rat log is available at
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
> >
> > Here's my +1
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Guillaume Nodet
> > ------------------------
> > Principal Engineer, IONA
> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
> --
> James
> -------
> http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.

thanks,
dims

On 5/22/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 looks good to me
>
> On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> > for you to review. See
> > http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> > for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> > the
> > distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
> >
> > I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
> > been
> > conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> > that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> > [ ] +/- 0
> > [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> >
> > The rat log is available at
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
> >
> > Here's my +1
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Guillaume Nodet
> > ------------------------
> > Principal Engineer, IONA
> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
> --
> James
> -------
> http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
+1 looks good to me

On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>


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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Thomas TERMIN <tt...@blue-elephant-systems.com>.
+1

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
> 
> 
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote
> has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
> 
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> 
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
> 
> 
> Here's my +1
> 


-- 
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_______________________________
blue elephant systems GmbH
Wollgrasweg 49
D-70599 Stuttgart

Tel    :  (+49) 0711 - 45 10 17 676
Fax    :  (+49) 0711 - 45 10 17 573
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
+1 here.


On May 22, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:

> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also  
> included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/ 
> apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first  
> vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been  
> fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1- 
> incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat- 
> servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/


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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@skynet.be>.
And here's my +1 too

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also 
> included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/ 
>
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first 
> vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed 
> since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt> 
>
>
> Here's my +1
>


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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
+1 from me.   This build looks much better than the earlier builds.

Dan


On Tuesday 22 May 2007 03:03, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also
> included in the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apach
>e/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first
> vote has been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed
> since that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<h
>ttp://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1

-- 
J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer
IONA
P: 781-902-8727    C: 508-380-7194
daniel.kulp@iona.com
http://www.dankulp.com/blog

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Jevgeni Holodkov <je...@gmail.com>.
+1 !

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@..., as a first vote
> has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
>
> Here's my +1
> 

Regards,
Jevgeni Holodkov
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
+1 looks good to me

On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>


-- 
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-------
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Thomas TERMIN <tt...@blue-elephant-systems.com>.
+1

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
> 
> 
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote
> has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
> 
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> 
> The rat log is available at
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
> 
> 
> Here's my +1
> 


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Tel    :  (+49) 0711 - 45 10 17 676
Fax    :  (+49) 0711 - 45 10 17 573
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote has
> been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1

http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/
contains a *lot* of jars with bad signatures

- robert

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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Thanks you very much Robert :-)

robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 7/3/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Robert, did you had time to take a look ?
>
> i'm +1
>
>> (other IPMC members are
>> welcome too)
>
> maybe one day :-)
>
> - robert
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 7/3/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robert, did you had time to take a look ?

i'm +1

> (other IPMC members are
> welcome too)

maybe one day :-)

- robert

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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Robert, did you had time to take a look ? (other IPMC members are
welcome too)

Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> As a new release with updated LICENSE file has been uploaded, all
> signatures have been updated too.
> I've just checked and they all seem ok.
>
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>   
>> On 7/2/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Robert, are you happy to +1 the release now?
>>>       
>> after checking this thread, my substantive issue was the bad signatures
>>
>> if they've been updated, i'll take another look
>>
>> - robert
>>
>>     
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
As a new release with updated LICENSE file has been uploaded, all
signatures have been updated too.
I've just checked and they all seem ok.

Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet

robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 7/2/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Robert, are you happy to +1 the release now?
>
>
> after checking this thread, my substantive issue was the bad signatures
>
> if they've been updated, i'll take another look
>
> - robert
>

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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 7/2/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Robert, are you happy to +1 the release now?


after checking this thread, my substantive issue was the bad signatures

if they've been updated, i'll take another look

- robert

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
Robert, are you happy to +1 the release now?

On 6/19/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/16/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have have some questions that need answering before we can proceed
> > with the release. Please them inline below:
> >
> > On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > > > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> > > >
> > > > issues
> > > > -------
> > > >
> > > > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> > > > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> > > > howl, jencks)
> > > There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
> > > Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
> > assumption
> > > was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> > > different license
> > > need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > Can someone clarify this?
>
>
> it's best that license information is provided clearly for all external
> parts of a release. otherwise, the collective license can be confused with
> the constituent licenses.
>
> i don't think that it's positively harmful to ship a release which is
> missing information about jars that are apache licensed but i would ask to
> find out their licensing if i didn't know them
>
> (IMHO we need to move towards using meta-data to record this information so
> that these questions don't have to continually asked)
>
> How are Apache Licensed projects that are
> > included in an ASF project supposed to be handled if they don't
> > provide their own NOTICE file?
>
>
> it they don't provide their own NOTICE file then that's fine
>
> but again, missing NOTICE files raise questions which then require answers
>
> > > apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
> > > > seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)
> > > I will fix that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
> > > >
> > > > is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
> > > > can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
> > > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > i think that
> > > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
> > > >
> > > > requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE
> > > >
> > > > i think that
> > > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
> > > >
> > > > is missing from the LICENSE
> > > >
> > > > also
> > > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (after re-reading the latest version of
> > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
> > > > applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
> > > > with legal.)
> > > I will add these informations to the LICENSE / NOTICE files.
> >
> > Is it sufficient to place these licenses in the NOTICE file? Can
> > someone clarify this please?
>
>
> see http://www.apache.org/legal/
>
> personally, speaking i wouldn't -1 a release that include LICENSE
> information in the NOTICE but AIUI it's more appropriate in LICENSE
>
> > > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> > > >
> > > > source in
> > > >
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> > > >
> > > > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> > > > generated?
> > > >
> > > > are the jars under
> > > > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> > > > be released?
> > > >
> > > > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> > > > sources without headers (mostly under
> > > > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> > > > are these generated?
> > > Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
> > > so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> > > jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
> > > contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> > > build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
> > > tag.
> >
> > So do we need to license generated files?
>
>
> nope (AIUI generated files are not independently copyrightable)
>
> just needed to check that these were indeed generated and so didn't need a
> license header
>
> - robert
>


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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 6/16/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have have some questions that need answering before we can proceed
> with the release. Please them inline below:
>
> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> > >
> > > issues
> > > -------
> > >
> > > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> > > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> > > howl, jencks)
> > There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
> > Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
> assumption
> > was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> > different license
> > need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Can someone clarify this?


it's best that license information is provided clearly for all external
parts of a release. otherwise, the collective license can be confused with
the constituent licenses.

i don't think that it's positively harmful to ship a release which is
missing information about jars that are apache licensed but i would ask to
find out their licensing if i didn't know them

(IMHO we need to move towards using meta-data to record this information so
that these questions don't have to continually asked)

How are Apache Licensed projects that are
> included in an ASF project supposed to be handled if they don't
> provide their own NOTICE file?


it they don't provide their own NOTICE file then that's fine

but again, missing NOTICE files raise questions which then require answers

> > apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
> > > seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)
> > I will fix that.
> > >
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
> > >
> > > is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
> > > can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld
> > >
> > >
> > > i think that
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
> > >
> > > requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE
> > >
> > > i think that
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
> > >
> > > is missing from the LICENSE
> > >
> > > also
> > >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js
> > >
> > >
> > > (after re-reading the latest version of
> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
> > > applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
> > > with legal.)
> > I will add these informations to the LICENSE / NOTICE files.
>
> Is it sufficient to place these licenses in the NOTICE file? Can
> someone clarify this please?


see http://www.apache.org/legal/

personally, speaking i wouldn't -1 a release that include LICENSE
information in the NOTICE but AIUI it's more appropriate in LICENSE

> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> > >
> > > source in
> > >
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> > >
> > > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> > > generated?
> > >
> > > are the jars under
> > > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> > > be released?
> > >
> > > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> > > sources without headers (mostly under
> > > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> > > are these generated?
> > Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
> > so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> > jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
> > contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> > build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
> > tag.
>
> So do we need to license generated files?


nope (AIUI generated files are not independently copyrightable)

just needed to check that these were indeed generated and so didn't need a
license header

- robert

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
I have have some questions that need answering before we can proceed
with the release. Please them inline below:

On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> >
> > issues
> > -------
> >
> > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> > howl, jencks)
> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My assumption
> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> different license
> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Can someone clarify this? How are Apache Licensed projects that are
included in an ASF project supposed to be handled if they don't
provide their own NOTICE file?

> > apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
> > seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)
> I will fix that.
> >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
> >
> > is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
> > can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld
> >
> >
> > i think that
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
> >
> > requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE
> >
> > i think that
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
> >
> > is missing from the LICENSE
> >
> > also
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js
> >
> >
> > (after re-reading the latest version of
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
> > applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
> > with legal.)
> I will add these informations to the LICENSE / NOTICE files.

Is it sufficient to place these licenses in the NOTICE file? Can
someone clarify this please?

> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> >
> > source in
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> >
> > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> > generated?
> >
> > are the jars under
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> > be released?
> >
> > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> > sources without headers (mostly under
> > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> > are these generated?
> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
> tag.

So do we need to license generated files?

Thanks for the assistance.

Bruce
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
I have have some questions that need answering before we can proceed
with the release. Please them inline below:

On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> >
> > issues
> > -------
> >
> > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> > howl, jencks)
> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My assumption
> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> different license
> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.

Can someone clarify this? How are Apache Licensed projects that are
included in an ASF project supposed to be handled if they don't
provide their own NOTICE file?

> > apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
> > seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)
> I will fix that.
> >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
> >
> > is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
> > can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld
> >
> >
> > i think that
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
> >
> > requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE
> >
> > i think that
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
> >
> > is missing from the LICENSE
> >
> > also
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js
> >
> >
> > (after re-reading the latest version of
> > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
> > applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
> > with legal.)
> I will add these informations to the LICENSE / NOTICE files.

Is it sufficient to place these licenses in the NOTICE file? Can
someone clarify this please?

> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> >
> > source in
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> >
> > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> > generated?
> >
> > are the jars under
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> > be released?
> >
> > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> > sources without headers (mostly under
> > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> > are these generated?
> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
> tag.

So do we need to license generated files?

Thanks for the assistance.

Bruce
-- 
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);'

Apache Geronimo - http://geronimo.apache.org/
Apache ActiveMQ - http://activemq.org/
Apache ServiceMix - http://servicemix.org/
Castor - http://castor.org/

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Just a friendly reminder that we're still missing an IPMC vote ;-)
Thanks !

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have fixed the LICENSE with the missing informations
> and redeployed a release to the same staging area.
> Hopefully we will find a better way to handle the license informations
> (I've seen some generated informations using maven) for the next major
> release and fix the generated license files somehow.
>
> Could everyone quickly review the changes ?
> I won't start a new vote as only the LICENSE file has
> changed, but I can if someone objects.
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>   
>> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
>>>>>           
>>>> issues
>>>> -------
>>>>
>>>> i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
>>>> libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
>>>> howl, jencks)
>>>>         
>>> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
>>>       
>> cool
>>
>>     
>>> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
>>> assumption
>>> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
>>> different license
>>> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>       
>> it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
>> issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)
>>
>> but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
>> releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
>> understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
>> the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
>> like this...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>     
>>>> otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
>>>>
>>>> source in
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
>>>
>>>       
>>>> lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
>>>> generated?
>>>>
>>>> are the jars under
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
>>>> be released?
>>>>
>>>> servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
>>>> sources without headers (mostly under
>>>> org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
>>>> are these generated?
>>>>         
>>> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
>>> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
>>> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
>>> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
>>> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
>>> tag.
>>>       
>> fine
>>
>> i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time
>>
>> - robert
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, and I'd like to ease the release process which is a real pain.
See http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/release-guide.html
Maven should be able to do all that in one command line but there
are some bugs and limitations unfortunately :-{

On 6/25/07, Gert Vanthienen <ge...@skynet.be> wrote:
>
> Guillaume,
>
>
> Looks fine to me!  We should definitely be able to create something to
> automate this kind of administrative tasks in the future...
>
>
> Gert
>
> Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > I have fixed the LICENSE with the missing informations
> > and redeployed a release to the same staging area.
> > Hopefully we will find a better way to handle the license informations
> > (I've seen some generated informations using maven) for the next major
> > release and fix the generated license files somehow.
> >
> > Could everyone quickly review the changes ?
> > I won't start a new vote as only the LICENSE file has
> > changed, but I can if someone objects.
> >
> > robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >>>> On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> >>>> issues
> >>>> -------
> >>>>
> >>>> i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> >>>> libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> >>>> howl, jencks)
> >>> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
> >> cool
> >>
> >>> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
> >>> assumption
> >>> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> >>> different license
> >>> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
> >> it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
> >> issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)
> >>
> >> but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
> >> releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
> >> understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
> >> the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
> >> like this...
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>>> otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> >>>>
> >>>> source in
> >>>>
> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> >>>
> >>>> lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> >>>> generated?
> >>>>
> >>>> are the jars under
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going
> to
> >>>> be released?
> >>>>
> >>>> servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> >>>> sources without headers (mostly under
> >>>> org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if
> so,
> >>>> are these generated?
> >>> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in
> svn
> >>> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> >>> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for
> only
> >>> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> >>> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the
> svn
> >>> tag.
> >> fine
> >>
> >> i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time
> >>
> >> - robert
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Gert Vanthienen <ge...@skynet.be>.
Guillaume,


Looks fine to me!  We should definitely be able to create something to 
automate this kind of administrative tasks in the future...


Gert

Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> I have fixed the LICENSE with the missing informations
> and redeployed a release to the same staging area.
> Hopefully we will find a better way to handle the license informations
> (I've seen some generated informations using maven) for the next major
> release and fix the generated license files somehow.
> 
> Could everyone quickly review the changes ?
> I won't start a new vote as only the LICENSE file has
> changed, but I can if someone objects.
> 
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>>>> On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
>>>> issues
>>>> -------
>>>>
>>>> i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
>>>> libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
>>>> howl, jencks)
>>> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
>> cool
>>
>>> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
>>> assumption
>>> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
>>> different license
>>> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>> it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
>> issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)
>>
>> but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
>> releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
>> understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
>> the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
>> like this...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
>>>>
>>>> source in
>>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
>>>
>>>> lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
>>>> generated?
>>>>
>>>> are the jars under
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
>>>> be released?
>>>>
>>>> servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
>>>> sources without headers (mostly under
>>>> org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
>>>> are these generated?
>>> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
>>> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
>>> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
>>> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
>>> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
>>> tag.
>> fine
>>
>> i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time
>>
>> - robert
>>
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>>
>>
>>
> 

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
I have fixed the LICENSE with the missing informations
and redeployed a release to the same staging area.
Hopefully we will find a better way to handle the license informations
(I've seen some generated informations using maven) for the next major
release and fix the generated license files somehow.

Could everyone quickly review the changes ?
I won't start a new vote as only the LICENSE file has
changed, but I can if someone objects.

robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>> > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
>> >
>> > issues
>> > -------
>> >
>> > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
>> > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
>> > howl, jencks)
>> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
>
> cool
>
>> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
>> assumption
>> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
>> different license
>> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
> issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)
>
> but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
> releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
> understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
> the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
> like this...
>
> <snip>
>
>> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
>> >
>> > source in
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
>>
>> >
>> > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
>> > generated?
>> >
>> > are the jars under
>> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
>> > be released?
>> >
>> > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
>> > sources without headers (mostly under
>> > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
>> > are these generated?
>> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
>> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
>> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
>> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
>> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
>> tag.
>
> fine
>
> i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time
>
> - robert
>
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>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
I have fixed the LICENSE with the missing informations
and redeployed a release to the same staging area.
Hopefully we will find a better way to handle the license informations
(I've seen some generated informations using maven) for the next major
release and fix the generated license files somehow.

Could everyone quickly review the changes ?
I won't start a new vote as only the LICENSE file has
changed, but I can if someone objects.

robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> robert burrell donkin wrote:
>> > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
>> >
>> > issues
>> > -------
>> >
>> > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
>> > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
>> > howl, jencks)
>> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
>
> cool
>
>> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My
>> assumption
>> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
>> different license
>> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
> issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)
>
> but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
> releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
> understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
> the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
> like this...
>
> <snip>
>
>> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
>> >
>> > source in
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
>>
>> >
>> > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
>> > generated?
>> >
>> > are the jars under
>> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
>> > be released?
>> >
>> > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
>> > sources without headers (mostly under
>> > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
>> > are these generated?
>> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
>> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
>> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
>> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
>> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
>> tag.
>
> fine
>
> i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time
>
> - robert
>
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>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/29/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
> >
> > issues
> > -------
> >
> > i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> > libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> > howl, jencks)
> There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.

cool

> Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My assumption
> was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
> different license
> need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.

it is safe to release without listing them (and if this were the only
issue then i would probably have voted affirmatively)

but the aim should be to allow people to understand the licensing of
releases without need to ask questions or do research. if i don't
understand the licensing then i will ask. so, it's a good idea to note
the licenses for all jars since it avoids the need to answer questions
like this...

<snip>

> > otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
> >
> > source in
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
> >
> > lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> > generated?
> >
> > are the jars under
> > http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> > be released?
> >
> > servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> > sources without headers (mostly under
> > org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> > are these generated?
> Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
> so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
> jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
> contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
> build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
> tag.

fine

i hope to be a bit more prompt with the review next time

- robert

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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.

robert burrell donkin wrote:
> On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...
>
> issues
> -------
>
> i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
> libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
> howl, jencks)
There are licensed under ASL 2.0 and don't have any NOTICE file afaik.
Should all the jars be listed in the LICENSE / NOTICE file ? My assumption
was that only those who had some attributions somehow or with a
different license
need to be, but correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
> seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)
I will fix that.
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
>
> is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
> can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld
>
>
> i think that
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
>
> requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE
>
> i think that
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
>
> is missing from the LICENSE
>
> also
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js
>
>
> (after re-reading the latest version of
> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
> applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
> with legal.) 
I will add these informations to the LICENSE / NOTICE files.
>
> otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions
>
> source in
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
>
> lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
> generated?
>
> are the jars under
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
> be released?
>
> servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
> sources without headers (mostly under
> org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
> are these generated?
Yeah, lots of these files are generated.  Files generated are not in svn
so we usually check the headers on the svn tree rather than the source
jars generated by maven.  These jars are not meant to be built for only
contain all the java sources for debugging purposes.   If you want to
build these jars, you need to use the source distribution or use the svn
tag.

Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
>
>
> comments and observations (not requirements)
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> README is good. one issue that you might have with linking to the
> website is that the information is likely to apply to the current
> release which may not be the release that the user has. there are
> various ways around this for example archiving documentation for every
> release on the website or linking to a distributed document.
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/28/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...

issues
-------

i think that apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.tar.gz has some
libraries in lib that are missing their LICENSE/NOTICE entries (eg
howl, jencks)

apache-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating-src.zip contains a directory that
seems like somethings gone wrong (src/C:tmp)

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-decorator.tld
is licensed under "The OpenSymphony Software License, Version 1.1" - i
can't see this in LICENSE or NOTICE. same goes to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/sitemesh-page.tld

i think that https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/common.js
requires attribution but i can't see anything in NOTICE

i think that https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/css.js
is missing from the LICENSE

also https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/servicemix/tags/servicemix-3.1.1/web/servicemix-web-console/src/main/webapp/js/plotkit/*.js

(after re-reading the latest version of
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, i'm not sure how this
applies javascript and other distributed source. i'll follow this up
with legal.)

otherwise generally ok but i have a few questions

source in http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/samples/wsdl-first/wsdl-first-jsr181-su/3.1.1-incubating/
 lacks headers. is this going to be released? if so, are these
generated?

are the jars under
http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/ going to
be released?

servicemix-wsn2005-3.1.1-incubating-sources.jar contains lots of java
sources without headers (mostly under
org.apache.servicemix.wsn.jaxws). is this going to be released? if so,
are these generated?


comments and observations (not requirements)
--------------------------------------------------------

README is good. one issue that you might have with linking to the
website is that the information is likely to apply to the current
release which may not be the release that the user has. there are
various ways around this for example archiving documentation for every
release on the website or linking to a distributed document.

- robert

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Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...

On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/>
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote
> has been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/




-- 
Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
------------------------
Principal Engineer, IONA
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/

Re: [VOTE] Release ServiceMix 3.1.1 (2nd try)

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Just a friendly reminder.  We're missing anoter IPMC vote ...

On 5/22/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have uploaded a version of ServiceMix 3.1.1 in the standard repo
> for you to review. See
> http://incubator.apache.org/servicemix/servicemix-311.html
> for the future download page and release notes (these are also included in
> the
> distribution).  The distribution have been uploaded to
>
> http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/<http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/servicemix-3.1.1-incubating/org/apache/servicemix/apache-servicemix/3.1.1-incubating/>
>
> I send this mail both to the dev list and general@i.a.o, as a first vote
> has been
> conducted on the ServiceMix dev list and some issues have been fixed since
> that, so hopefully this one will be fine.
>
> [ ] +1 Release ServiceMix 3.1.1
> [ ] +/- 0
> [ ] -1 Do not release ServiceMix 3.1.1
>
> The rat log is available at http://people.apache.org/~gnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt
> <http://people.apache.org/%7Egnodet/rat-servicemix-3.1.1-incubating.txt>
>
> Here's my +1
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/




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Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet
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Principal Engineer, IONA
Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/