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[jira] [Created] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

mail-archives are badly broken
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                 Key: INFRA-4221
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
             Project: Infrastructure
          Issue Type: Bug
      Security Level: public (Regular issues)
         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
            Reporter: Sebb
            Priority: Critical


The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken

For example:

DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.

Similarly for JMeter user.

Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010

I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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<danielsh> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/ has the missing files.

                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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Sebb commented on INFRA-4221:
-----------------------------

A few more examples of mailboxes present on minotaur, but not visible on mail-archives:

chemistry-commits/200905
chemistry-commits/200906
chemistry-commits/200907
chemistry-commits/200908
chemistry-commits/200909
chemistry-commits/200910
chemistry-commits/200911
chemistry-commits/200912
chemistry-commits/201001
chemistry-commits/201002
chemistry-commits/201003
chemistry-commits/201004
chemistry-commits/201005
chemistry-commits/201006
chemistry-commits/201007
chemistry-commits/201008
chemistry-commits/201009
chemistry-commits/201010
chemistry-commits/201011
chemistry-commits/201012
chemistry-commits/201101

chemistry-dev/200904
chemistry-dev/200905
chemistry-dev/200906
chemistry-dev/200907
chemistry-dev/200908
chemistry-dev/200909
chemistry-dev/200910
chemistry-dev/200911
chemistry-dev/200912
chemistry-dev/201001
chemistry-dev/201002
chemistry-dev/201003
chemistry-dev/201004
chemistry-dev/201005
chemistry-dev/201006
chemistry-dev/201007
chemistry-dev/201008
chemistry-dev/201009
chemistry-dev/201010
chemistry-dev/201011
chemistry-dev/201012
chemistry-dev/201101

jakarta-bsf-dev/200605


xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200309
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200310
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200311
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200312
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200401
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200402
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200403
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200404
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200405
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200406
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200407
xml-xmlbeans-cvs/200408
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200307
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200308
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200309
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200310
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200311
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200312
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200401
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200402
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200403
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200404
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200405
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200406
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200407
xml-xmlbeans-dev/200408
xml-xmlbeans-user/200307
xml-xmlbeans-user/200308
xml-xmlbeans-user/200309
xml-xmlbeans-user/200310
xml-xmlbeans-user/200311
xml-xmlbeans-user/200312
xml-xmlbeans-user/200401
xml-xmlbeans-user/200402
xml-xmlbeans-user/200403
xml-xmlbeans-user/200404
xml-xmlbeans-user/200405
xml-xmlbeans-user/200406
xml-xmlbeans-user/200407
xml-xmlbeans-user/200408

These are only some of the inconsistencies
                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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Sebb commented on INFRA-4221:
-----------------------------

Note that the incubator chemistry mailboxes have already been moved under chemistry.a.o on minotaur:~apmail/public-arch.
                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Closed] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot closed INFRA-4221.
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    Resolution: Invalid
    
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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Sebb commented on INFRA-4221:
-----------------------------

I'm confused.

Abdera graduated in Nov 2008; all its mailboxes have been transferred from incubator.

Checking the mailing list ids shows:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/abdera-dev/200606.mbox/date: first message List-Id: <abdera-dev.incubator.apache.org>

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/abdera-dev/200812.mbox/date first message List-Id: <abdera-dev.incubator.apache.org>
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/abdera-dev/200812.mbox/date last message List-Id: <dev.abdera.apache.org>

UIMA is similar; it has mailboxes from incubator and TLP.

So how come Abdera (and UIMA) can graduate and have their mailboxes transferred, but now Deltacloud and Chemistry cannot?
                
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> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Reopened] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

Posted by "Sebb (Reopened) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sebb reopened INFRA-4221:
-------------------------


AFAICT, it's not inactionable.

Closer would be WONTFIX.

However, please reconsider, because the present situation makes it harder to use the mail archives
                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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Sebb commented on INFRA-4221:
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Deltacloud archives are inaccessible; see INFRA-4112.

Does it make sense for graduated TLPs to have mailboxes split across incubator and TLP?

For example, some chemistry mailboxes are still under incubator.
Should these not be moved to the new TLP area?
Might need to merge some mailboxes (last incubator and first tlp) but that's not difficult AFAIK.
                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-4221:
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<danielsh> anything else to be done here?  for jmeter and chemistry the older mailboxes are available on the pre-rename locations

                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-4221:
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<joes4> no. if you'd like to develop utilities for modmbox to make archive migration feasible. then please do so and let us know when you have finished. otherwise stop nagging us about the way we migrate lists.

                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Closed] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot closed INFRA-4221.
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    Resolution: Won't Fix
    
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-4221:
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<joes4> because when abdera graduated someone had time to work thru the mess- nice but not required.

                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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[jira] [Commented] (INFRA-4221) mail-archives are badly broken

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#asfinfra IRC Bot commented on INFRA-4221:
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<danielsh> closing as inactionable

                
> mail-archives are badly broken
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: INFRA-4221
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4221
>             Project: Infrastructure
>          Issue Type: Bug
>      Security Level: public(Regular issues) 
>         Environment: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/
> minotaur:/home/apmail/public-arch
>            Reporter: Sebb
>            Priority: Critical
>
> The archives on http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ are badly broken
> For example:
> DeltaCloud has non-empty mailboxes for commits and dev going back to June 2010 on minotaur; however 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/deltacloud-dev/
> only show Nov 2011 and Dec 2011.
> Similarly for JMeter user.
> Zookeeper user has files on minotaur going back to June 2008; yet on mail-archive the earliest is Nov 2010
> I picked Zookeeper at random and it has a problem, so the chances are that there are other archives missing from mail-archives.

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