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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> on 2007/01/01 18:17:16 UTC
VFS and EMF Awareness
Hi,
I just got the VFS 1.0 announcement a little while
back and did a cross post on the EMF mailing list,
since EMF has similar capabilities.
This was mainly for awareness and possible future
collaboration opportunities.
Here's the reply from Marcelo on the EMF team
(Including a test link showing how some of the EMF
stuff works):
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=21615&group=eclipse.tools.emf#21615
Cheers,
- Ole
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com>.
Hey Mario,
Eclipse might be one area, but EMF is part of the
Eclipse Modeling Toolset, so it's a completely
separate API from what Eclipse Core uses (Although a
lot of other projects, like BIRT, use it).
EMF loads Model files used in code generation, etc. so
I'm guessing that was their initial goal for the API.
So if for instance VFS had a URI Facade like EMF does,
perhaps EMF could just switch to VFS, and VFS would
get documentation taken care of there (If it's not
already, I need to play with it more) while EMF gets a
richer URI API...
Just hypothesizing...
The guys on the EMF tools mailling list are super
friendly and helpful, and someone usually responds
within five minutes, so I'm sure they would be hear
from the VFS team.
If you did want to look at the source, here are the
CVS parameters:
Connection Type: pserver
host: dev.eclipse.org
Repository Path: /cvsroot/tools
User: anonymous
Then just scroll down to
org.eclipse.emf
Cheers,
- Ole
--- Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at> wrote:
> Hi!
> >
>
http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.emf.doc/references/javadoc/org/eclipse/emf/common/util/class-use/URI.html
> >
> Hmmm ... for what I can see you can directly
> reference a file (even
> within an archive) but then there are some basic
> things missing:
>
> * list of children
> * rename/move operations
> * meta data handling
> etc
>
> Without looking at the source, maybe it could be
> possible to create a
> VFS backed URI implementation, though, from some
> previous discussions
> about using VFS in eclipse it turned out that they
> implemented a high
> performance native code local filesystem
> implementation. It might be a
> performance loss for eclipse if they use VFS without
> porting this native
> implementation to VFS first.
>
> Ciao,
> Mario
>
>
>
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at>.
Hi!
> http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.emf.doc/references/javadoc/org/eclipse/emf/common/util/class-use/URI.html
>
Hmmm ... for what I can see you can directly reference a file (even
within an archive) but then there are some basic things missing:
* list of children
* rename/move operations
* meta data handling
etc
Without looking at the source, maybe it could be possible to create a
VFS backed URI implementation, though, from some previous discussions
about using VFS in eclipse it turned out that they implemented a high
performance native code local filesystem implementation. It might be a
performance loss for eclipse if they use VFS without porting this native
implementation to VFS first.
Ciao,
Mario
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com>.
Ah - I get you.
I'm planning on doing that in more detail as well when
I get some time to play with VFS.
Here's the Javadoc page for EMF's URI object:
http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.emf.doc/references/javadoc/org/eclipse/emf/common/util/class-use/URI.html
It has a long description.
That would be on collaboration opportunity right
there...documentation.
I'll post back more once I have had a chance to
compare the two in more detail.
Cheers,
- Ole
--- Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 1/2/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > OH - Sure - You just need to sign up for an
> Eclipse
> > Newsgroup Account.
>
>
> No, I mean please post information about the
> possible overlap between EMF
> and VFS. You can't expect everyone here to go
> register for an Eclipse
> account just for that.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/register.php
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Ole
> >
> >
> > --- Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 1/1/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just got the VFS 1.0 announcement a little
> while
> > > > back and did a cross post on the EMF mailing
> list,
> > > > since EMF has similar capabilities.
> > > >
> > > > This was mainly for awareness and possible
> future
> > > > collaboration opportunities.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the reply from Marcelo on the EMF team
> > > > (Including a test link showing how some of the
> EMF
> > > > stuff works):
> > >
> > >
> > > That link requires a login (and therefore
> > > registration). Could you provide
> > > more information here, please?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=21615&group=eclipse.tools.emf#21615
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > - Ole
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 1/2/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> OH - Sure - You just need to sign up for an Eclipse
> Newsgroup Account.
No, I mean please post information about the possible overlap between EMF
and VFS. You can't expect everyone here to go register for an Eclipse
account just for that.
--
Martin Cooper
http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/register.php
>
> Cheers,
> - Ole
>
>
> --- Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 1/1/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just got the VFS 1.0 announcement a little while
> > > back and did a cross post on the EMF mailing list,
> > > since EMF has similar capabilities.
> > >
> > > This was mainly for awareness and possible future
> > > collaboration opportunities.
> > >
> > > Here's the reply from Marcelo on the EMF team
> > > (Including a test link showing how some of the EMF
> > > stuff works):
> >
> >
> > That link requires a login (and therefore
> > registration). Could you provide
> > more information here, please?
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=21615&group=eclipse.tools.emf#21615
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ole
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com>.
OH - Sure - You just need to sign up for an Eclipse
Newsgroup Account.
http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/register.php
Cheers,
- Ole
--- Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 1/1/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got the VFS 1.0 announcement a little while
> > back and did a cross post on the EMF mailing list,
> > since EMF has similar capabilities.
> >
> > This was mainly for awareness and possible future
> > collaboration opportunities.
> >
> > Here's the reply from Marcelo on the EMF team
> > (Including a test link showing how some of the EMF
> > stuff works):
>
>
> That link requires a login (and therefore
> registration). Could you provide
> more information here, please?
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=21615&group=eclipse.tools.emf#21615
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Ole
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: VFS and EMF Awareness
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On 1/1/07, Ole Ersoy <ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just got the VFS 1.0 announcement a little while
> back and did a cross post on the EMF mailing list,
> since EMF has similar capabilities.
>
> This was mainly for awareness and possible future
> collaboration opportunities.
>
> Here's the reply from Marcelo on the EMF team
> (Including a test link showing how some of the EMF
> stuff works):
That link requires a login (and therefore registration). Could you provide
more information here, please?
--
Martin Cooper
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=21615&group=eclipse.tools.emf#21615
>
> Cheers,
> - Ole
>
>
>
>
>
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