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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by "FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI" <fi...@att.com> on 2008/04/23 21:14:00 UTC
[users@httpd] Directory listings take
really long time.
Suddenly we have directories with as many as 15,000 files
Most of the settings look ok as per Apache web page (even turned off
FancyIndexing - to no avail)
Q: is creating a script to build the page the only way around this?
Q: Any scripts laying around? Working on one now :)
RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by "FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI" <fi...@att.com>.
I've suggested it, of course, but I understand their predicament
Paul Finkel
AT&T Chief Security Office
732.420.3105
-----Original Message-----
From: Dragon [mailto:dragon@crimson-dragon.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:43 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI wrote:
>Heh - I'm just the sysadmin : - )
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My personal opinion (of course...) as the sysadmin, it should be your
place to recommend a better way instead of trying to fix a mess somebody
else thinks is acceptable. If they value your skills, hopefully they
will also value your recommendations.
Dragon
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by Dragon <dr...@crimson-dragon.com>.
FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI wrote:
>Heh - I'm just the sysadmin : - )
---------------- End original message. ---------------------
My personal opinion (of course...) as the sysadmin, it should be your
place to recommend a better way instead of trying to fix a mess
somebody else thinks is acceptable. If they value your skills,
hopefully they will also value your recommendations.
Dragon
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by "FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI" <fi...@att.com>.
Heh - I'm just the sysadmin : - )
-----Original Message-----
From: Dragon [mailto:dragon@crimson-dragon.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:20 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI wrote:
>Hi -
>
>Thanks for your reply. When the page is finally rendered, as a test I
>save it on my desktop and then open it and it takes but a few seconds
>for the full page to build, so I'm fairly sure a script
>(index.cgi) would do fine.
>
>I've created a crude shell script to build the page and not only is it
>much quicker, but system resources don't get clogged up.
>
>I will look inbto your suggestion, however.
>
>Again - tx
>
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I have to wonder why you would want your directory structure to hold so
many files in one place. It seems to me that this is rather unwieldy and
maybe even practically unusable.
I'd personally be thinking about better ways to organize it under a
hierarchical set of directories to keep the individual indexes from
being so cumbersome.
Just my two cents...
Dragon
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by Dragon <dr...@crimson-dragon.com>.
FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI wrote:
>Hi -
>
>Thanks for your reply. When the page is finally rendered, as a test
>I save it on my desktop and then open it and it takes but a few
>seconds for the full page to build, so I'm fairly sure a script
>(index.cgi) would do fine.
>
>I've created a crude shell script to build the page and not only is
>it much quicker, but system resources don't get clogged up.
>
>I will look inbto your suggestion, however.
>
>Again - tx
>
---------------- End original message. ---------------------
I have to wonder why you would want your directory structure to hold
so many files in one place. It seems to me that this is rather
unwieldy and maybe even practically unusable.
I'd personally be thinking about better ways to organize it under a
hierarchical set of directories to keep the individual indexes from
being so cumbersome.
Just my two cents...
Dragon
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by "FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI" <fi...@att.com>.
Hi -
Thanks for your reply. When the page is finally rendered, as a test I
save it on my desktop and then open it and it takes but a few seconds
for the full page to build, so I'm fairly sure a script (index.cgi)
would do fine.
I've created a crude shell script to build the page and not only is it
much quicker, but system resources don't get clogged up.
I will look inbto your suggestion, however.
Again - tx
Paul Finkel
AT&T Chief Security Office
732.420.3105
________________________________
From: Boyle Owen [mailto:Owen.Boyle@swx.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:49 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
________________________________
From: FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI [mailto:finkel@att.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:14 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
really long time.
Suddenly we have directories with as many as 15,000 files
Most of the settings look ok as per Apache web page (even turned
off FancyIndexing - to no avail)
Q: is creating a script to build the page the only way around
this?
Q: Any scripts laying around? Working on one now :)
Obviously it will take mod_autoindex a while to build a webpage with
15,000 lines... But it will also take your browser quite a while to
render it.
You might try fetching the page to a file with wget or curl (thus
eliminating the browser rendering time) so you can see where the real
bottleneck is. It could be it's mainly rendering time in which case
speeding up apache or pre-building the page won't make any difference.
You might also wonder if a webpage with 15,000 lines is of any use to
the user (how do they read all that stuff?) - but, hey, what do I
know...
Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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RE: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
Posted by Boyle Owen <Ow...@swx.com>.
________________________________
From: FINKEL, PAUL D, ATTSI [mailto:finkel@att.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:14 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] Directory listings take
really long time.
Suddenly we have directories with as many as 15,000 files
Most of the settings look ok as per Apache web page (even turned
off FancyIndexing - to no avail)
Q: is creating a script to build the page the only way around
this?
Q: Any scripts laying around? Working on one now :)
Obviously it will take mod_autoindex a while to build a webpage with
15,000 lines... But it will also take your browser quite a while to
render it.
You might try fetching the page to a file with wget or curl (thus
eliminating the browser rendering time) so you can see where the real
bottleneck is. It could be it's mainly rendering time in which case
speeding up apache or pre-building the page won't make any difference.
You might also wonder if a webpage with 15,000 lines is of any use to
the user (how do they read all that stuff?) - but, hey, what do I
know...
Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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