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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> on 2012/04/30 12:55:36 UTC
Getting Started video
Made a getting started video which I think would be great to replace the other video on the main page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8pxEACVRI
-David
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, dsh wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org. That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>>
>
> In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
> for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
> thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
> or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
Sounds great.
>> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we write a TomEE adapter.
>>
>
> I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
> messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
> instead of normal, black messages.
Not sure if that is just how java.util.logging works by default printing to System.err. Tomcat does that all by itself in Eclipse even when the TomeEE flavor is not used.
> Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
ScreenFlow.
Though I recorded the audio on my iPhone and spliced it in in chunks to keep the pacing from feeling rushed.
-David
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Jonathan Gallimore wrote:
> I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
> should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
> one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
> presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
> people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
Have had the same experience. It seems to validate in people's minds that we are truly just Tomcat as we say. You can see the skepticism wash away on their faces and the excitement come in.
-David
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Forgot to say i think we should push it to eclipse and not keep it imho.
Le 30 avr. 2012 18:53, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rm...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Simply adding a line tomee is more than enough imo. In particular because
> we are tomcat.
>
> - Romain
> Le 30 avr. 2012 18:47, "Jonathan Gallimore" <jo...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
>> There isn't a TomEE Eclipse plugin, but there is an OpenEJB one, which
>> includes a WTP server for OpenEJB, and a wizard to migrate from EJB2.1 to
>> EJB3, generating the relevant annotations. I'm no expert but I do have
>> some
>> experience of doing Eclipse plugins, and did a fair amount of work on the
>> OpenEJB one.
>>
>> I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
>> should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
>> one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
>> presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
>> people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
>>
>> I'm quite happy to try and see if we can come up with a TomEE adaptor
>> based
>> on the Tomcat plugin and make it a bit easier to get TomEE going (there
>> were a couple of options you have to fiddle with on the Tomcat WTP plugin)
>> - are there any other ideas that people have?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
>> >
>> > I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
>> >
>> > Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as
>> > an option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
>> > Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one -
>> but
>> > adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Neale
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh" <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com
>> **>
>> > To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Getting Started video
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support
>> >> already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org.
>> >> That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
>> > for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
>> > thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
>> > or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
>> >
>> > If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
>> >> know what I'm doing :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
>> > just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless
>> we
>> >> write a TomEE adapter.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
>> > messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
>> > instead of normal, black messages.
>> >
>> > Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast
>> recording?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Daniel
>> >
>>
>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Simply adding a line tomee is more than enough imo. In particular because
we are tomcat.
- Romain
Le 30 avr. 2012 18:47, "Jonathan Gallimore" <jo...@gmail.com>
a écrit :
> There isn't a TomEE Eclipse plugin, but there is an OpenEJB one, which
> includes a WTP server for OpenEJB, and a wizard to migrate from EJB2.1 to
> EJB3, generating the relevant annotations. I'm no expert but I do have some
> experience of doing Eclipse plugins, and did a fair amount of work on the
> OpenEJB one.
>
> I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
> should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
> one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
> presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
> people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
>
> I'm quite happy to try and see if we can come up with a TomEE adaptor based
> on the Tomcat plugin and make it a bit easier to get TomEE going (there
> were a couple of options you have to fiddle with on the Tomcat WTP plugin)
> - are there any other ideas that people have?
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
>
> > Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
> >
> > I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
> >
> > Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as
> > an option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
> > Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one -
> but
> > adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Neale
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh" <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com
> **>
> > To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Getting Started video
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support
> >> already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org.
> >> That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
> >>
> >>
> > In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
> > for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
> > thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
> > or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
> >
> > If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
> >> know what I'm doing :)
> >>
> >>
> > I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
> > just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
> >
> >
> >> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless
> we
> >> write a TomEE adapter.
> >>
> >>
> > I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
> > messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
> > instead of normal, black messages.
> >
> > Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Daniel
> >
>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net>.
+1 for this thread - maybe rename the subject line and work on this more?
Would be great to see TomEE show up as a distinct option in Eclipse.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dsh" <da...@googlemail.com>
To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: Getting Started video
Maybe the existing OpenEJB adapter could be simply extended to support
both OpenEJB standalone and TomEE. Or the existing OpenEJB WTP adapter
and the existing Tomcat adapter could be merged into a new TomEE
adapter which would make it almost transparent to the user whether a
standalone OpenEJB, TomEE or TomEE plus is being used (depending on
the server runtime used the WTP editor page could provide different
tunables). I suspect the original OpenEJB WTP adapter could have been
a copy of the generic or Tomcat WTP adapter to so it would maybe a
good idea anyway to have a look at it to figure out whether WTP APIs
used are still up-to-date or not.
Cheers
Daniel
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Jonathan Gallimore
<jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There isn't a TomEE Eclipse plugin, but there is an OpenEJB one, which
> includes a WTP server for OpenEJB, and a wizard to migrate from EJB2.1 to
> EJB3, generating the relevant annotations. I'm no expert but I do have
> some
> experience of doing Eclipse plugins, and did a fair amount of work on the
> OpenEJB one.
>
> I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
> should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
> one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
> presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
> people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
>
> I'm quite happy to try and see if we can come up with a TomEE adaptor
> based
> on the Tomcat plugin and make it a bit easier to get TomEE going (there
> were a couple of options you have to fiddle with on the Tomcat WTP plugin)
> - are there any other ideas that people have?
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
>
>> Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
>>
>> I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
>>
>> Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as
>> an option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
>> Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one -
>> but
>> adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Neale
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh"
>> <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com**>
>> To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Getting Started video
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support
>>> already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org.
>>> That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>>>
>>>
>> In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
>> for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
>> thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
>> or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
>>
>> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
>>> know what I'm doing :)
>>>
>>>
>> I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
>> just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>>
>>
>>> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless
>>> we
>>> write a TomEE adapter.
>>>
>>>
>> I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
>> messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
>> instead of normal, black messages.
>>
>> Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Maybe the existing OpenEJB adapter could be simply extended to support
both OpenEJB standalone and TomEE. Or the existing OpenEJB WTP adapter
and the existing Tomcat adapter could be merged into a new TomEE
adapter which would make it almost transparent to the user whether a
standalone OpenEJB, TomEE or TomEE plus is being used (depending on
the server runtime used the WTP editor page could provide different
tunables). I suspect the original OpenEJB WTP adapter could have been
a copy of the generic or Tomcat WTP adapter to so it would maybe a
good idea anyway to have a look at it to figure out whether WTP APIs
used are still up-to-date or not.
Cheers
Daniel
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Jonathan Gallimore
<jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There isn't a TomEE Eclipse plugin, but there is an OpenEJB one, which
> includes a WTP server for OpenEJB, and a wizard to migrate from EJB2.1 to
> EJB3, generating the relevant annotations. I'm no expert but I do have some
> experience of doing Eclipse plugins, and did a fair amount of work on the
> OpenEJB one.
>
> I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
> should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
> one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
> presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
> people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
>
> I'm quite happy to try and see if we can come up with a TomEE adaptor based
> on the Tomcat plugin and make it a bit easier to get TomEE going (there
> were a couple of options you have to fiddle with on the Tomcat WTP plugin)
> - are there any other ideas that people have?
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
>
>> Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
>>
>> I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
>>
>> Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as
>> an option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
>> Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one - but
>> adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Neale
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh" <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com**>
>> To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Getting Started video
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support
>>> already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org.
>>> That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>>>
>>>
>> In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
>> for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
>> thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
>> or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
>>
>> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
>>> know what I'm doing :)
>>>
>>>
>> I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
>> just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>>
>>
>>> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we
>>> write a TomEE adapter.
>>>
>>>
>> I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
>> messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
>> instead of normal, black messages.
>>
>> Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
There isn't a TomEE Eclipse plugin, but there is an OpenEJB one, which
includes a WTP server for OpenEJB, and a wizard to migrate from EJB2.1 to
EJB3, generating the relevant annotations. I'm no expert but I do have some
experience of doing Eclipse plugins, and did a fair amount of work on the
OpenEJB one.
I'd love to get back into some of that stuff. The big question is, how
should a TomEE plugin work, and how would it be different from a Tomcat
one? I've always found the Tomcat one works really well for TomEE - I've
presented this a couple of times at JAX London, and one of the things
people liked was that the existing Tomcat tools worked with TomEE.
I'm quite happy to try and see if we can come up with a TomEE adaptor based
on the Tomcat plugin and make it a bit easier to get TomEE going (there
were a couple of options you have to fiddle with on the Tomcat WTP plugin)
- are there any other ideas that people have?
Jon
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
> Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
>
> Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
>
> I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
>
> Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as
> an option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
> Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one - but
> adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
>
> Best Regards,
> Neale
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh" <daniel.haischt@googlemail.com**>
> To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Getting Started video
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support
>> already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org.
>> That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>>
>>
> In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
> for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
> thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
> or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
>
> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
>> know what I'm doing :)
>>
>>
> I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
> just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>
>
>> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we
>> write a TomEE adapter.
>>
>>
> I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
> messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
> instead of normal, black messages.
>
> Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
My first shot would be a "dump" 1:1 copy of the original Tomcat WTP
adapter and have it re-branded to call out TomEE instead of Tomcat
where applicable. We could then discuss what kind of additional option
should be present on the adapters editor page. We should as well
discuss later on how to re-distribute such an adapter cause I suppose
the Tomcat adapter is licensed under the EPL. An additional value add
might be adding TomEE specific help pages geared towards Eclipse so
people have the most essential information available within their
Eclipse workbench.
Cheers
Daniel
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net> wrote:
> Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
>
> Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
>
> I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
>
> Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as an
> option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
> Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one - but
> adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
>
> Best Regards,
> Neale
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dsh" <da...@googlemail.com>
> To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Getting Started video
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support already
>> in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org. That sounds
>> great. Do you know how to do that?
>>
>
> In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
> for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
> thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
> or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
>
>> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
>> know what I'm doing :)
>>
>
> I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
> just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>
>>
>> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we
>> write a TomEE adapter.
>>
>
> I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
> messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
> instead of normal, black messages.
>
> Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by Neale Rudd <ne...@metawerx.net>.
Is there an Eclipse plugin for TomEE yet?
Does anyone have experience with building Eclipse plugins?
I personally don't use Eclipse either but a lot of our customers do.
Now that TomEE is officially released, it would be great to have that as an
option in the main eclipse build, especially since other distros like
Glassfish have one. It's probably exactly the same as the Tomcat one - but
adding it as an explicit option would boost recognition.
Best Regards,
Neale
----- Original Message -----
From: "dsh" <da...@googlemail.com>
To: <de...@openejb.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Getting Started video
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support already
> in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org. That sounds
> great. Do you know how to do that?
>
In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't
> know what I'm doing :)
>
I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>
> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we
> write a TomEE adapter.
>
I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
instead of normal, black messages.
Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
Cheers
Daniel
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org. That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
>
In the first place a downloadable plug-in containing the WTP adapter
for TomEE would be enough. A second step would be pushing the whole
thing upstreams to the Eclipse project like it is the case for Tomcat
or WAS CE. I could have a look at that.
> If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't know what I'm doing :)
>
I'd say in that particular case you are more like a generalist who
just knows enought to operate any IDE :)
>
> Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we write a TomEE adapter.
>
I noticed that Tomcat, for whatever reason prints out info and warning
messages to stderr instead of stdout too. Now idea why. Thus the red
instead of normal, black messages.
Btw, which screencasting program did you use to do the webcast recording?
Cheers
Daniel
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:09 AM, dsh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I still think that it should be possible to add TomEE from within
> Eclipse as a new server runtime to get an experience similar to WAS
> 8.5 Liberty Profile [1] (i.e. an Eclipse is the desktop experience).
> So I was wondering why the "download and install" button under "New
> Server Runtime Environment" in your Eclipse instance was disabled...
> it would bring up the license acceptance panel (currently for Tomcat
> only, but I think we should have our own TomEE entry) which would
> allow us to prompt the user for accepting the AL for TomEE in
> particular in addition to downloading+installing directly from within
> Eclipse.
Seems like a lot of these suggestions involve having TomEE support already in the Eclipse binary that people download from eclipse.org. That sounds great. Do you know how to do that?
If I misunderstand it's because I don't really like Eclipse and I don't know what I'm doing :)
> You may as well call out which web module version you've been using (I
> spotted the web service node under your project and I suspect that's
> specific to a particular web module version).
>
> Btw, from a user experience PoV the red INFO/WARNING messages in the
> console view are annoying, so is the stop button in the console view
> (servers should be operated from the servers view) :)
Console messages we can control. Stop button out of our control unless we write a TomEE adapter.
-David
>
> PS: We need such a demo flick [2] too :)
>
> [1] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/wasdev/entry/the_liberty_profile_in_1_minute4?lang=en
> [2] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/wasdev/entry/websphere_application_server_running_on_the_libery_pi5?lang=en
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Made a getting started video which I think would be great to replace the other video on the main page.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8pxEACVRI
>>
>> -David
>>
Re: Getting Started video
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
I still think that it should be possible to add TomEE from within
Eclipse as a new server runtime to get an experience similar to WAS
8.5 Liberty Profile [1] (i.e. an Eclipse is the desktop experience).
So I was wondering why the "download and install" button under "New
Server Runtime Environment" in your Eclipse instance was disabled...
it would bring up the license acceptance panel (currently for Tomcat
only, but I think we should have our own TomEE entry) which would
allow us to prompt the user for accepting the AL for TomEE in
particular in addition to downloading+installing directly from within
Eclipse.
You may as well call out which web module version you've been using (I
spotted the web service node under your project and I suspect that's
specific to a particular web module version).
Btw, from a user experience PoV the red INFO/WARNING messages in the
console view are annoying, so is the stop button in the console view
(servers should be operated from the servers view) :)
PS: We need such a demo flick [2] too :)
[1] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/wasdev/entry/the_liberty_profile_in_1_minute4?lang=en
[2] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/wasdev/entry/websphere_application_server_running_on_the_libery_pi5?lang=en
Cheers
Daniel
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Made a getting started video which I think would be great to replace the other video on the main page.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8pxEACVRI
>
> -David
>