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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Nicolás Lichtmaier <ni...@reloco.com.ar> on 2006/01/18 23:06:15 UTC

Success stories

Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
(http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).

I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.

If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!

Thanks!

Re: Success stories

Posted by Andreas Hochsteger <e9...@student.tuwien.ac.at>.
Hi Nicolás,

there is a section called "Live Sites" on the Cocoon Website which lists 
many websites running a certain version of Cocoon:
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.0.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-1.x.html

Perhaps you can find there what you are looking for ...

HTH,
Andreas

Nicolás Lichtmaier schrieb:
> Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
> there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
> evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
> own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
> show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
> put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
> (http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).
> 
> I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
> already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.
> 
> If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 

Re: Success stories

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le 18 janv. 06, à 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier a écrit :

> ...It would help a lot if I could show where Cocoon is being used (big 
> names preferrred)...

If "big names in a small part of a small country" apply, I have two 
live examples (their content is in French but you'll get the idea), and 
a few more references below. People, bear with me if you've heard this 
before ;-)

http://www.nouvo.ch/ is the website of "nouvo", a TV show of the 
national Swiss television (french-speaking branch) which is about 
innovation, gadgets, multimedia etc. In addition to being a very 
important part of the show, the website is used as a kind of laboratory 
to test new ideas for video distribution and audience interaction.

We'll be adding video forums next week, for audience interaction via 
webcams, using Flash-based video integrated in the Cocoon-generated 
website. I can't say more for now but this is public information 
already, so here you go.

They're very happy with the system and it's very stable, more info on 
my weblog at

http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000566.html
http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000370.html

The same Cocoon-based core is used to run http://archives.tsr.ch/home 
where the historical video archives of the same TV network 
(http://www.tsr.ch) are published.

See http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000570.html.

This is all public information, so feel free to cite these projects as 
references, or ask me off-list if you need more details.

I haven't checked if someone mentioned Jack Iver's and friends 
presentation at the last GT, you can find it at 
http://www.cocoongt.org/Slides-and-recordings.html.

The presentation mentions the Webby award-winning "Merck Manual Second 
Home Edition" website, which also runs on Cocoon.

Other big names references around here are Otego's work for the Swiss 
Interbank Clearing, search for

otego "swiss interbank clearing" cocoon

on Google.

And also SWX, the electronic Swiss Exchange, mentioned in 
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html

Hope this helps,
-Bertrand


Re: Success stories

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 18.01.2006 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

> Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
> there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
> evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
> own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
> show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred).

Another interesting list might be 
http://codeconsult.ch/bertrand/archives/000389.html. We had a "success 
stories" session at the Cocoon GetTogether 2004. That's what Bertrand's 
post is about. The minutes of the session can be found at 
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/GT2004Gianugo.

Jörg

Re: Success stories

Posted by Christoph Hermann <ch...@guschtel.de>.
Sylvain Wallez schrieb:

Hello,

> Cocoon is also used [...] for large CMS/DMS in the french administration
> and many french universities.
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could you give me some details about this? I would be very interested.

Christoph

Re: Success stories

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Irv Salisbury wrote:
>
>
> On 1/19/06, *Gianugo Rabellino* <gianugo@apache.org 
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <agallardo@agssa.net
>     <ma...@agssa.net>> wrote:
>     > Hi Nicolás,
>     >
>     > Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.
>     > Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online
>     but seems
>     > like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the
>     presentation in
>     > http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events
>     > presentations".
>     >
>     > Gianugo? :-)
>
>     Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me on
>     stage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such material
>     being available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
>     can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got which
>     was a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.
>
>     BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for you
>     of banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
>     evaluation process.
>
>     Ciao,
>
>
>     --
>     Gianugo Rabellino
>     Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
>     Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com
>     (blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)
>
>
> I can't give you anything official either, but we have used cocoon 
> over the past 2 years on multiple projects at Pfizer, Xerox, and 
> Kodak.  It is also at the heart of Realnet, which is currently 
> installed at Bank of America and Freddie Mac.  So, those are some 
> pretty big names.

Cocoon is also used by a large european airplane manufacturer (are there 
many of them? :-) ), and for large CMS/DMS in the french administration 
and many french universities.

Sylvain

-- 
Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
http://bluxte.net                     http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director


Re: Success stories

Posted by Irv Salisbury <ir...@gmail.com>.
On 1/19/06, Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net> wrote:
> > Hi Nicolás,
> >
> > Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.
> > Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems
> > like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in
> > http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events
> > presentations".
> >
> > Gianugo? :-)
>
> Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me on
> stage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such material
> being available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
> can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got which
> was a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.
>
> BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for you
> of banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
> evaluation process.
>
> Ciao,
>
>
> --
> Gianugo Rabellino
> Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
> Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com
> (blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)
>

I can't give you anything official either, but we have used cocoon over the
past 2 years on multiple projects at Pfizer, Xerox, and Kodak.  It is also
at the heart of Realnet, which is currently installed at Bank of America and
Freddie Mac.  So, those are some pretty big names.

Irv

Re: Success stories

Posted by Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>.
On 1/19/06, Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net> wrote:
> Hi Nicolás,
>
> Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice.
> Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems
> like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in
> http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events
> presentations".
>
> Gianugo? :-)

Sorry guys, when asking around the various people who were with me on
stage I got a few of them who didn't like the idea of such material
being available for download, this is why it hasn't been published. I
can't blame them for that, actually I'm happy for what I've got which
was a massive attention and willingness to collaborate.

BUT, Nicolas, do get in touch with me: I have a few references for you
of banking projects and I'm more than willing to help you in the
evaluation process.

Ciao,


--
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com
(blogging at http://www.rabellino.it/blog/)

Re: Success stories

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Hi Nicolás,

Glad to see you considering Cocoon. I think it is a good choice. 
Unfortunately, I tried to find the Gianugo presentation online but seems 
like there is not. Maybe Gianugo can share with us the presentation in 
http://cocoon.apache.org/mirror.cgi  under "Material form events 
presentations".

Gianugo? :-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

> Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
> there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
> evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build 
> our own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I 
> could show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I 
> suggest you put that information somewhere visible. Other projects 
> already do that (http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).
>
> I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
> already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a 
> list.
>
> If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!
>
> Thanks!



Re: Success stories

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 18.01.2006 23:51, Torsten Curdt wrote:

> There is also Dresdner Bank and Vodafone ...and I know O2 is using it
> 
> ...and there are a few more banks. Not sure about there official  
> statements though.

We can at least provide "official" hints:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&w=4&r=1&s=Jonas+Kilian&q=b

:)

Jörg

Re: Success stories

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@apache.org>.
> yes, there is such a page, at least as pure list of links: http:// 
> cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html. With the big names it is  
> somewhat difficult. You have to search them in the list. The "big"  
> names that I would mention are vnunet.com, the Eurex and Eurex US  
> and the Swiss Exchange.

There is also Dresdner Bank and Vodafone ...and I know O2 is using it

...and there are a few more banks. Not sure about there official  
statements though.

cheers
--
Torsten

Re: Success stories

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 18.01.2006 23:06, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:

> Sorry to be here in this mailing list. I just wanted to point out that 
> there's no easy way to find a list of Cocoon success stories. We are 
> evaluating Cocoon for a banking application as a foundation to build our 
> own customized form generation system. It would help a lot if I could 
> show where Cocoon is being used (big names preferrred). I suggest you 
> put that information somewhere visible. Other projects already do that 
> (http://subversion.tigris.org/testimonials.html, 
> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebLinks).
> 
> I know it can soud unfair but enterprises pay attention to "who has 
> already used that?" when evaluating products. Considere adding such a list.
> 
> If there's a page I've missed please tell me, I'd need that info!

Hello Nicolás,

yes, there is such a page, at least as pure list of links: 
http://cocoon.apache.org/link/livesites-2.1.html. With the big names it 
is somewhat difficult. You have to search them in the list. The "big" 
names that I would mention are vnunet.com, the Eurex and Eurex US and 
the Swiss Exchange.

This pure list was extended to success stories or with additional 
information some time ago: 
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/documentation/695.html. But not so 
many links were added with this additional information up to now.

Hope this helps.

Jörg