[HEADS-UP] New repository for org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

All,

I'm going to create a new repository for the
org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager currently in the whiteboard
at:

https://github.com/apache/sling-whiteboard/tree/master/startupmanager

I think I'll call it:

sling-org-apache-sling-launchpad-startupmanager

Since renaming repositories requires ASF infra manual intervention I
just want to make sure nobody has an objection about the names.

In other words, if you have a claim about the names speak now.

regards,

Karl

-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: [HEADS-UP] New repository for org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager

[Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de>]

On Wednesday 28 November 2018 13:32:20 Karl Pauls wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 4:57 AM Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 November 2018 10:01:37 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ...I think I'll call it:
> > > > sling-org-apache-sling-launchpad-startupmanager ..
> > > 
> > > That works for me and maybe at the same time you can add some info to
> > > the README about what that module does ;-)
> > 
> > AFAIR we agreed to drop the Launchpad API and removed all usage from
> > Sling's bundles. It was only implemented fully in Launchpad Base and not
> > in any other launcher. So I wonder why we bring it back now and add
> > support in Feature Launcher (?).
> 
> Exactly. The idea of the startupmanager is to move out what is needed
> to make other systems work until they stop requiring the
> launchpad.api. It for the most part is just a couple of stubbed
> services (or with minimal implementations). We can use them in other
> launchers if there is a need for it because of old stuff requiring it
> but I would advice against it where possible.
> 
> In other words, it is the other way around in regard to the Feature
> Launcher. It used to implement some of the launchpad.api to make old
> stuff work but it now stopped doing that. Instead, one can now just
> install the startupmanager as a bundle as part of a feature (if ones
> bundles require it).

Fine. We should at this explanation to the README.

Thanks,
O.

> regards,
> 
> Karl
> 
> > Regards,
> > O.
> > 
> > > -Bertrand

Re: [HEADS-UP] New repository for org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 4:57 AM Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 27 November 2018 10:01:37 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ...I think I'll call it:
> > > sling-org-apache-sling-launchpad-startupmanager ..
> >
> > That works for me and maybe at the same time you can add some info to
> > the README about what that module does ;-)
>
> AFAIR we agreed to drop the Launchpad API and removed all usage from Sling's
> bundles. It was only implemented fully in Launchpad Base and not in any other
> launcher. So I wonder why we bring it back now and add support in Feature
> Launcher (?).

Exactly. The idea of the startupmanager is to move out what is needed
to make other systems work until they stop requiring the
launchpad.api. It for the most part is just a couple of stubbed
services (or with minimal implementations). We can use them in other
launchers if there is a need for it because of old stuff requiring it
but I would advice against it where possible.

In other words, it is the other way around in regard to the Feature
Launcher. It used to implement some of the launchpad.api to make old
stuff work but it now stopped doing that. Instead, one can now just
install the startupmanager as a bundle as part of a feature (if ones
bundles require it).

regards,

Karl

> Regards,
> O.
>
> > -Bertrand
>


-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: [HEADS-UP] New repository for org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager

[Oliver Lietz <ap...@oliverlietz.de>]

On Tuesday 27 November 2018 10:01:37 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...I think I'll call it:
> > sling-org-apache-sling-launchpad-startupmanager ..
> 
> That works for me and maybe at the same time you can add some info to
> the README about what that module does ;-)

AFAIR we agreed to drop the Launchpad API and removed all usage from Sling's 
bundles. It was only implemented fully in Launchpad Base and not in any other 
launcher. So I wonder why we bring it back now and add support in Feature 
Launcher (?).

Regards,
O.

> -Bertrand

Re: [HEADS-UP] New repository for org.apache.sling.launchpad.startupmanager

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi,

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...I think I'll call it:
> sling-org-apache-sling-launchpad-startupmanager ..

That works for me and maybe at the same time you can add some info to
the README about what that module does ;-)

-Bertrand