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Commons download pages are out of date
Several of the Commons download pages are out of date, e.g. BeanUtils
still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi but the
current release is 1.8.0
I've updated the source file:
/commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
Log:
Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
But I'm not sure how to generate the updated html pages and deploy them.
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@yahoo.com>.
--- sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/11/2008, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:11 PM, sebb
> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Several of the Commons download pages are out
> of date, e.g. BeanUtils
> > > still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
> > >
>
http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi
> but the
> > > current release is 1.8.0
> >
> >
> > V. strange - it was showing 1.8.0 but seems to
> have been reverted.
>
> It was previously updated by mbenson on Nov 20
> 18:35
FYI--the cgi scripts were all missing the x perm and
as a result NO download pages were coming up
yesterday. I wasn't able to change the perms for some
reason, so I had to copy and recreate the entire
downloads/ directory. Note that all the files out
there are straight copies of the files that existed
before I got my grubby little paws on them==the only
thing I did was change the perms to 775. The original
files are available at ~mbenson/commons-dlold.tar.gz
and beanutils appears to show 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 in
those. I don't remember who owned the files when I
found them, but I want to say they said they had been
modified in June... surely the download pages weren't
broken for that long; I don't know what could have
happened to them.
-Matt
>
> > I've uploaded a new version - should see it after
> the next sync.
> >
> >
> > Niall
> >
> >
> > > I've updated the source file:
> > >
> > >
>
/commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> > >
> > > URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
> > > Log:
> > > Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
> > >
> > > But I'm not sure how to generate the updated
> html pages and deploy them.
> > >
> >
> > >
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 21/11/2008, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:11 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Several of the Commons download pages are out of date, e.g. BeanUtils
> > still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
> > http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi but the
> > current release is 1.8.0
>
>
> V. strange - it was showing 1.8.0 but seems to have been reverted.
It was previously updated by mbenson on Nov 20 18:35
> I've uploaded a new version - should see it after the next sync.
>
>
> Niall
>
>
> > I've updated the source file:
> >
> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
> > Log:
> > Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
> >
> > But I'm not sure how to generate the updated html pages and deploy them.
> >
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:11 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Several of the Commons download pages are out of date, e.g. BeanUtils
> still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
> http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi but the
> current release is 1.8.0
V. strange - it was showing 1.8.0 but seems to have been reverted.
I've uploaded a new version - should see it after the next sync.
Niall
> I've updated the source file:
>
> /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
> Log:
> Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
>
> But I'm not sure how to generate the updated html pages and deploy them.
>
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:41 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/11/2008, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <snip/>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
>> >> >
>> >> > AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
>> >> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> <snap/>
>> >>
>> >> Correct.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
>> >> >
>> >> > Where does this one originate?
>> >> >
>> >> > Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
>> >> > It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> <snip/>
>> >>
>> >> Off bits in the m2 pom. See the Commons build plugin's site [1] (in
>> >> particular, commons:download-page goal).
>> >>
>> >
>> > I could be wrong, but this does not seem to support multiple versions
>> > on the download page.
>>
>>
>> It doesn't.
>>
>>
>> > These are needed for several components, e.g.
>> > Collections and NET currently.
>>
>>
>> I think we only need to show the latest version - there are links to
>> browse the archive for older versions.
>>
>
> I'm not sure I agree that only the current version is needed.
>
>> > Also potentially for any component that releases a non-final (e.g.
>> > BETA) release.
>>
>>
>> Doesn't happen that often - can only think of BeanUtils in the last
>> few years and a link could be put on the home page to the download
>> area for betas.
>>
>> Besides being better as part of the component sites and easier to
>> maintain - one of the other motivations for the plugin generated one
>> was so that if/when we get rid of the m1 build for the main site, we
>> had an alternative mechanism for generating download pages. m1 is
>> becoming a problematic since people don't use it and it doesn't work
>> on JDK 1.6 for me. I think we should get a working m2 site for commons
>> and switch to these new download pages.
>>
>
> I agree that it is useful for component sites to be able to maintain
> their own download areas, but I don't agree that they should only be
> able to display the current release.
But that means either sticking with the m1 build or someone coming up
with an alternative m2 solution.
Personally I don't see why the latest release isnt good enough.
Niall
> It may make it easier to generate and maintain, but it's harder for
> users in certain cases.
>
>> Niall
>>
>>
>> >> -Rahul
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/commons-build-plugin/
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 21/11/2008, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip/>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
> >> >
> >> > AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
> >> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> >> >
> >>
> >> <snap/>
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
> >> >
> >> > Where does this one originate?
> >> >
> >> > Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
> >> > It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
> >> >
> >>
> >> <snip/>
> >>
> >> Off bits in the m2 pom. See the Commons build plugin's site [1] (in
> >> particular, commons:download-page goal).
> >>
> >
> > I could be wrong, but this does not seem to support multiple versions
> > on the download page.
>
>
> It doesn't.
>
>
> > These are needed for several components, e.g.
> > Collections and NET currently.
>
>
> I think we only need to show the latest version - there are links to
> browse the archive for older versions.
>
I'm not sure I agree that only the current version is needed.
> > Also potentially for any component that releases a non-final (e.g.
> > BETA) release.
>
>
> Doesn't happen that often - can only think of BeanUtils in the last
> few years and a link could be put on the home page to the download
> area for betas.
>
> Besides being better as part of the component sites and easier to
> maintain - one of the other motivations for the plugin generated one
> was so that if/when we get rid of the m1 build for the main site, we
> had an alternative mechanism for generating download pages. m1 is
> becoming a problematic since people don't use it and it doesn't work
> on JDK 1.6 for me. I think we should get a working m2 site for commons
> and switch to these new download pages.
>
I agree that it is useful for component sites to be able to maintain
their own download areas, but I don't agree that they should only be
able to display the current release.
It may make it easier to generate and maintain, but it's harder for
users in certain cases.
> Niall
>
>
> >> -Rahul
> >>
> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/commons-build-plugin/
>
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
>> >
>> > AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
>> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
>> >
>>
>> <snap/>
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
>> >
>> > Where does this one originate?
>> >
>> > Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
>> > It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
>> >
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> Off bits in the m2 pom. See the Commons build plugin's site [1] (in
>> particular, commons:download-page goal).
>>
>
> I could be wrong, but this does not seem to support multiple versions
> on the download page.
It doesn't.
> These are needed for several components, e.g.
> Collections and NET currently.
I think we only need to show the latest version - there are links to
browse the archive for older versions.
> Also potentially for any component that releases a non-final (e.g.
> BETA) release.
Doesn't happen that often - can only think of BeanUtils in the last
few years and a link could be put on the home page to the download
area for betas.
Besides being better as part of the component sites and easier to
maintain - one of the other motivations for the plugin generated one
was so that if/when we get rid of the m1 build for the main site, we
had an alternative mechanism for generating download pages. m1 is
becoming a problematic since people don't use it and it doesn't work
on JDK 1.6 for me. I think we should get a working m2 site for commons
and switch to these new download pages.
Niall
>> -Rahul
>>
>> [1] http://commons.apache.org/commons-build-plugin/
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip/>
>
> >>
> >> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
> >
> > AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> >
>
> <snap/>
>
> Correct.
>
>
>
> >> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
> >
> > Where does this one originate?
> >
> > Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
> > It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
> >
>
> <snip/>
>
> Off bits in the m2 pom. See the Commons build plugin's site [1] (in
> particular, commons:download-page goal).
>
I could be wrong, but this does not seem to support multiple versions
on the download page. These are needed for several components, e.g.
Collections and NET currently.
Also potentially for any component that releases a non-final (e.g.
BETA) release.
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/commons-build-plugin/
>
>
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:17 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip/>
>>
>> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
>
> AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
> /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
>
<snap/>
Correct.
>> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
>
> Where does this one originate?
>
> Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
> It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
>
<snip/>
Off bits in the m2 pom. See the Commons build plugin's site [1] (in
particular, commons:download-page goal).
-Rahul
[1] http://commons.apache.org/commons-build-plugin/
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 21/11/2008, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Several of the Commons download pages are out of date, e.g. BeanUtils
> > still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
> > http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi but the
> > current release is 1.8.0
> >
> > I've updated the source file:
> >
> > /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
> > Log:
> > Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
> >
> > But I'm not sure how to generate the updated html pages and deploy them.
> >
>
> <snip/>
>
> Use build-downloads.xml ant build to generate xdocs for download
> pages, then m1 site plugin to build and deploy site.
>
> For extra credit, there are actually two places download pages exist
> (bad) -- example [1, 2] -- the second was devised as part of the
> Commons build plugin (thanks to Niall) and doesn't require the Commons
> site to be updated on every release, just the individual component's
> site (good).
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
AFAIK, this one is auto generated from
/commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
> [2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
Where does this one originate?
Duplicate cgi files are not really a problem, as they should all be indentical.
It's the html files that contain the version numbers.
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Re: Commons download pages are out of date
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Several of the Commons download pages are out of date, e.g. BeanUtils
> still has 1.8.0-BETA and 1.7.0 on the page
> http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_beanutils.cgi but the
> current release is 1.8.0
>
> I've updated the source file:
>
> /commons/proper/commons-build/trunk/downloads/downloads.xml
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=719638&view=rev
> Log:
> Remove Latka; add Net 1.4.1
>
> But I'm not sure how to generate the updated html pages and deploy them.
>
<snip/>
Use build-downloads.xml ant build to generate xdocs for download
pages, then m1 site plugin to build and deploy site.
For extra credit, there are actually two places download pages exist
(bad) -- example [1, 2] -- the second was devised as part of the
Commons build plugin (thanks to Niall) and doesn't require the Commons
site to be updated on every release, just the individual component's
site (good).
-Rahul
[1] http://commons.apache.org/downloads/download_scxml.cgi
[2] http://commons.apache.org/scxml/download_scxml.cgi
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