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[OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
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All,
I'm provisioning my first Amazon EC2 instance and I was wondering if
anyone has any recommendations on the flavor of Linux I choose.
I am most familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu package management and
administration and, of course, Amazon has neither of those as image
types to choose. It looks like I can choose:
* Fedora
* CentOS
* SUSE
* "Amazon Linux"
I have no idea what that last one is... it uses yum as it's package
manager so I assume it's related to Fedora/RHEL.
Any thoughts?
- -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 02:02, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> [...]>
>> I'd comment too on the lack of packages in RHEL.
>> I know that lots of missing perl modules won't bother you much, but maybe a
>> missing mod_jk will leave you less serene ?
>>
>
> Why use mod_jk when you have mod_proxy_ajp?
>
Because you may have a whole infrastructure already based on mod_jk, and because there are
things
easier to do with mod_jk than with mod_proxy_ajp (and vice-versa probably).
But I'll let Chris answer that further.
Note that you can always build mod_jk under RHEL, and make a package of it.
But it's always sweet to be able to use pre-packaged stuff.
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Francis,
On 12/7/11 3:07 AM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 02:02, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> [...]>
>>
>> I'd comment too on the lack of packages in RHEL. I know that lots
>> of missing perl modules won't bother you much, but maybe a
>> missing mod_jk will leave you less serene ?
>>
>
> Why use mod_jk when you have mod_proxy_ajp?
Features. Stability. Availability from package maintainers.
Lots of reasons.
- -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Francis GALIEGUE <fg...@one2team.com>.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 02:02, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
[...]>
>
> I'd comment too on the lack of packages in RHEL.
> I know that lots of missing perl modules won't bother you much, but maybe a
> missing mod_jk will leave you less serene ?
>
Why use mod_jk when you have mod_proxy_ajp?
--
Francis Galiegue
ONE2TEAM
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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André,
On 12/6/11 8:02 PM, André Warnier wrote:
> I'd comment too on the lack of packages in RHEL. I know that lots
> of missing perl modules won't bother you much, but maybe a missing
> mod_jk will leave you less serene ?
You know me: I always build my own mod_jk anyway. ;)
- -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> Francis,
>
> On 12/6/11 5:36 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
>> What are your primary concerns?
>
> Well, like most administrators, I'm lazy which means I'd prefer not to
> have to learn a whole lot of new stuff like package management
> eccentricities, etc.
>
> I haven't used an RPM-based system in maybe 10 years, and I have to
> admit I'm not exactly a Debian/APT expert, but at least I've come to
> know what to expect.
>
>> If stability I'd definitely go for CentOS
>
> I've been lucky enough to avoid any OS crashes, so if it's as stable
> as Debian Etch/Lenny/Squeeze, then I'm happy.
>
>> it is just an RHEL recompiled, and RHEL is damn stable (I use it at
>> work on all servers and haven't had an OS crash for five _years_
>> with it). And you have EPEL if you want extra packages which RHEL
>> does not provide.
>
> Plus I can complain to jfclere if it doesn't work. :)
I'd comment too on the lack of packages in RHEL.
I know that lots of missing perl modules won't bother you much, but maybe a missing mod_jk
will leave you less serene ?
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Francis,
On 12/6/11 5:36 PM, Francis GALIEGUE wrote:
> What are your primary concerns?
Well, like most administrators, I'm lazy which means I'd prefer not to
have to learn a whole lot of new stuff like package management
eccentricities, etc.
I haven't used an RPM-based system in maybe 10 years, and I have to
admit I'm not exactly a Debian/APT expert, but at least I've come to
know what to expect.
> If stability I'd definitely go for CentOS
I've been lucky enough to avoid any OS crashes, so if it's as stable
as Debian Etch/Lenny/Squeeze, then I'm happy.
> it is just an RHEL recompiled, and RHEL is damn stable (I use it at
> work on all servers and haven't had an OS crash for five _years_
> with it). And you have EPEL if you want extra packages which RHEL
> does not provide.
Plus I can complain to jfclere if it doesn't work. :)
- -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Francis GALIEGUE <fg...@one2team.com>.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 23:23, Christopher Schultz
<ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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> All,
>
> I'm provisioning my first Amazon EC2 instance and I was wondering if
> anyone has any recommendations on the flavor of Linux I choose.
>
> I am most familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu package management and
> administration and, of course, Amazon has neither of those as image
> types to choose. It looks like I can choose:
>
> * Fedora
> * CentOS
> * SUSE
> * "Amazon Linux"
>
> I have no idea what that last one is... it uses yum as it's package
> manager so I assume it's related to Fedora/RHEL.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
What are your primary concerns? If stability I'd definitely go for
CentOS, it is just an RHEL recompiled, and RHEL is damn stable (I use
it at work on all servers and haven't had an OS crash for five _years_
with it). And you have EPEL if you want extra packages which RHEL does
not provide.
--
Francis Galiegue
ONE2TEAM
Ingénieur système
Mob : +33 (0) 683 877 875
Tel : +33 (0) 178 945 552
fge@one2team.com
40 avenue Raymond Poincaré
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Gavin,
On 12/6/11 5:51 PM, Gavin Yue wrote:
> Which JVM are you using, default one or installing hotspot?
When you say "hotspot" do you mean the Sun/Oracle JVM? I plan on using
the Sun/Oracle JVM and not something like OpenJDK -- at least for now.
If you were asking about Hotspot in general, then yes, I'm definitely
using Hotspot as I believe it's the only JVM that Sun/Oracle has made
in the last 10 years or so.
- -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Gavin Yue <yu...@gmail.com>.
Which JVM are you using, default one or installing hotspot?
Thx
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jordan Michaels <jo...@viviotech.net>wrote:
> I've had good experiences with Tomcat on CentOS using EC2. Pretty simple
> to get familiar with if you're already comfortable with CentOS.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Jordan Michaels
>
>
> On 12/06/2011 02:23 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>
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>> All,
>>
>> I'm provisioning my first Amazon EC2 instance and I was wondering if
>> anyone has any recommendations on the flavor of Linux I choose.
>>
>> I am most familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu package management and
>> administration and, of course, Amazon has neither of those as image
>> types to choose. It looks like I can choose:
>>
>> * Fedora
>> * CentOS
>> * SUSE
>> * "Amazon Linux"
>>
>> I have no idea what that last one is... it uses yum as it's package
>> manager so I assume it's related to Fedora/RHEL.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> - -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Jordan Michaels <jo...@viviotech.net>.
I've had good experiences with Tomcat on CentOS using EC2. Pretty simple
to get familiar with if you're already comfortable with CentOS.
Warm Regards,
Jordan Michaels
On 12/06/2011 02:23 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> All,
>
> I'm provisioning my first Amazon EC2 instance and I was wondering if
> anyone has any recommendations on the flavor of Linux I choose.
>
> I am most familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu package management and
> administration and, of course, Amazon has neither of those as image
> types to choose. It looks like I can choose:
>
> * Fedora
> * CentOS
> * SUSE
> * "Amazon Linux"
>
> I have no idea what that last one is... it uses yum as it's package
> manager so I assume it's related to Fedora/RHEL.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> - -chris
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Re: [OT] Recommendations for Amazon EC2 Linux Flavor
Posted by Gavin Yue <yu...@gmail.com>.
Amazon linux belong to RHEL/CentOS family.
You could choose the ubuntu image:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
They have official AMI.
But someone claimed that Amazon Linus has best performance on EC2, since it
is created by Amazon...
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Christopher Schultz <
chris@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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> All,
>
> I'm provisioning my first Amazon EC2 instance and I was wondering if
> anyone has any recommendations on the flavor of Linux I choose.
>
> I am most familiar with the Debian/Ubuntu package management and
> administration and, of course, Amazon has neither of those as image
> types to choose. It looks like I can choose:
>
> * Fedora
> * CentOS
> * SUSE
> * "Amazon Linux"
>
> I have no idea what that last one is... it uses yum as it's package
> manager so I assume it's related to Fedora/RHEL.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> - -chris
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