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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agsoftware.dnsalias.com> on 2003/06/02 10:10:17 UTC

Re: Again: "forgotten" namespaces problem

Hi:

Check:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RemoveNamespaces

Antonio Gallardo




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RE: Again: "forgotten" namespaces problem

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Alexander Schatten wrote:
> 
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> 
> >Hi:
> >
> >Check:
> >http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RemoveNamespaces
> >
> >  
> >
> I know this one, but I am afraid, you really missed the point. Please 
> try to read my original posting again. In brief words again:
> 
> IMHO Cocoon **has to be** standards conform and hence also the HTML 
> serializer should produce standard conform HTML; as it can easily 
> happen, that namespaces stay in the transformed XHTMLs, the HTML 
> transformer *has to* remove them. Not *should*.
> 
> Because *should* means, that mostly it will not be removed, and again, 
> we seen tons of irregular HTML documents generated by an important open 
> source tool. THIS is no promotion for Cocoon! As HTML publishing still 
> is the most important usage pattern for Cocoon, this "bug" seems to be 
> very serious to me.
> 
> Additionally adding this XSLT transform step to (nearly) every 
> transformation pipeline, to be sure, puts additional complexity into the 
> sitemap and, moreover, slows down the pipeline. This is definitily a 
> step that should be performed by default in the serializer! And this is 
> the point.
> 
> 
Is there a patch available?

Carsten

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Re: Again: "forgotten" namespaces problem

Posted by Alexander Schatten <al...@gmx.at>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:

>Hi:
>
>Check:
>http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RemoveNamespaces
>
>  
>
I know this one, but I am afraid, you really missed the point. Please 
try to read my original posting again. In brief words again:

IMHO Cocoon **has to be** standards conform and hence also the HTML 
serializer should produce standard conform HTML; as it can easily 
happen, that namespaces stay in the transformed XHTMLs, the HTML 
transformer *has to* remove them. Not *should*.

Because *should* means, that mostly it will not be removed, and again, 
we seen tons of irregular HTML documents generated by an important open 
source tool. THIS is no promotion for Cocoon! As HTML publishing still 
is the most important usage pattern for Cocoon, this "bug" seems to be 
very serious to me.

Additionally adding this XSLT transform step to (nearly) every 
transformation pipeline, to be sure, puts additional complexity into the 
sitemap and, moreover, slows down the pipeline. This is definitily a 
step that should be performed by default in the serializer! And this is 
the point.


Alex



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