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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Enrico Weigelt <we...@metux.de> on 2006/08/30 12:59:02 UTC
Re: perchild
* Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
Hi,
> I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working.
maybe you're looking for: http://www.metux.de/mpm
The project has been stalled for quite a while :(
But maybe it's time for revival ?
> In STATUS I see:
>
> Get perchild to work on platforms other than Linux. This will require a
> portable mechanism to pass data and file/socket descriptors between
> vhost child groups.
Perchild *never* worked. The idea isn't bad - we took much of it
into metuxmpm, but there were major design problems. For example:
each childs can accept clients. That's very bad, because it allows
some user to intercept another's requests with some probability.
The whole idea of passing *sockets* (instead of requests) between
processes only works on very few systems, ie. Linux, BSD and
perhaps some others. So the whole portability issue is useless -
those MPMs only work some Unix'es, and there evrythere the same.
cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Colm MacCarthaigh <co...@stdlib.net>.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 12:59:02PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> The whole idea of passing *sockets* (instead of requests) between
> processes only works on very few systems, ie. Linux, BSD and
> perhaps some others. So the whole portability issue is useless -
> those MPMs only work some Unix'es, and there evrythere the same.
None of our MPMs offers that kind of portability.
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Re: perchild
Posted by Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca>.
On Thu, 2006-31-08 at 16:21 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > It is not clear to me yet whether I should work on metux or perchild.
>
> Unless I missed some major redesign in perchild, you should drop it.
> It has some design flaws which make it insecure. metuxmpm was forked
> off to fix them.
ok ... can you reply to me off-list with an outline
if/when i start working on this, I will post a URL to the list on which
I will post progress reports until I have something that can be uploaded
to mpm/experimental
>
>
> cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Enrico Weigelt <we...@metux.de>.
* Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
<snip>
> It is not clear to me yet whether I should work on metux or perchild.
Unless I missed some major redesign in perchild, you should drop it.
It has some design flaws which make it insecure. metuxmpm was forked
off to fix them.
cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca>.
On Thu, 2006-31-08 at 13:37 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ok. I have the patch against 2.0.48 ... I will see what I can do with
> > it.
>
> Yeah, it's quite old. But perhaps you can get it into current 2.2.
> Please give us feedback.
It is not clear to me yet whether I should work on metux or perchild.
I'll give you some feedback once I am able to decide (weeks rather than
days).
>
>
> cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Enrico Weigelt <we...@metux.de>.
* Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
>
> Ok. I have the patch against 2.0.48 ... I will see what I can do with
> it.
Yeah, it's quite old. But perhaps you can get it into current 2.2.
Please give us feedback.
cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca>.
On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 23:02 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 12:59 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working.
> > >
> > > maybe you're looking for: http://www.metux.de/mpm
> >
> > I found that. The links don't work.
>
> ah, bug in the php script (was too old for my server - still relied
> on register_globals ;-o)
>
<snip>
Ok. I have the patch against 2.0.48 ... I will see what I can do with
it.
--gh
Re: perchild
Posted by Enrico Weigelt <we...@metux.de>.
* Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 12:59 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working.
> >
> > maybe you're looking for: http://www.metux.de/mpm
>
> I found that. The links don't work.
ah, bug in the php script (was too old for my server - still relied
on register_globals ;-o)
> > The project has been stalled for quite a while :(
> > But maybe it's time for revival ?
>
> Has it been uploaded into the apache svn ?
IMHO not. Had stalled long before the switch to svn.
cu
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Re: perchild
Posted by Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca>.
On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 12:59 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Guy Hulbert <gw...@eol.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working.
>
> maybe you're looking for: http://www.metux.de/mpm
I found that. The links don't work.
>
> The project has been stalled for quite a while :(
> But maybe it's time for revival ?
Has it been uploaded into the apache svn ?
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