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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com> on 2007/01/19 10:47:18 UTC
Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
Dear anil,
It takes 2 months to get approval for software or training even for small amount. Training is so standard that you have got it 15 years back when you first saw linuz.
10 days for permission to downlaod in large organization :( It is still better than US telecom company.
Smart Rules : Not a penny could be spent on project till Project Pin is generated. It is there where the project needs help before dying - preborth death. Project abortion is well spread across all continents.
Please be request to know what made you think it was "attempt to pollute environment ". I heard it earlier too. US telecom gave me Million dollar stock , 100 K + salary but made sign papers for every single thing. Half day goes in that. I started spending 10K from personal money per year on parties to keep warring factor in company happy. All I wanted was to get my idea accepted . People called it " attempt to pollute environment ". Most in my company feels I am "attempt to pollute environment " by bringing Open Source.
Getting 5 days standard training for linux was dumb for me. 50 guys wasting 5 days. 50*5 = 250 days . Equal to 1 calendar working man year.
Instead I asked small guy to teach to code; I fell less fool than asking on net. If I code ; rest will .... Even without training.
Nice miz : Ofbiz + Geronimo 2.0 + Linux . IOC and JNDI are not mizing nicely :(. I have some idea which need to get implemented.
Be rest assured I will get help.
I may not want to miss this opportunity to congratulate you because you sound stronger than 200 Billion company executive.... I like attitute. :)
Great Job
Chand
----- Original Message -----
From: Anil Patel
To: Chandresh Turakhia
Cc: Ashish Vijaywargiya ; chandturakhia74@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
Chandresh,
I appreciate your interest in doing business with us and it will definitely help our company's bottom line. In interest of long term goals of our company, its important for us to concentrate in on what we do best, i.e. Software development on top of Ofbiz. In 5 years of history of our company we have never accepted any project that was not build on top of Ofbiz framework. We are focused.
I request you to respect our decision and not attempt to pollute environment of our company.
We do not provide training for Non Aditi Tech Labs employees. We don't have any such service that provide for any kind of Support for Software development team.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
FYI: Hotwaxmedia does provide service that will help you in getting started with Ofbiz development.
On 1/18/07, Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com> wrote:
Hi Ashish ,
You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It is honest request.
Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to develop patches for ofbiz etc.
I am open to come to Indore to learn.
Alternatively nice if you give me what I need for training. Pramagati is asking to give trainig but I would request you to guide me as to what to ask for as "training requirements"
Chand
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
To: Chandresh Turakhia ; Anil Patel
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD's
Hi Chand,
Yesterday , I have sent you 2 Live CD of Ofbiz+Ubuntu.Probably you will get it today.
You only need to place a disk on the CD-Drive and please make sure that the CD-Drive is the first Bootable device.
It will be much better if machine configuration is not older then 1 year.(May be Ubuntu don't support driver for the older PC)
FYI , The Live CD will load within 8 or 10 minutes.
Let me know whenever you get the CD's.
Thanks.
--
Regards
Ashish Vijaywargiya
Aditisoft Technology Laboratory
----- Original Message -----
From: sandeep.nag
To: Chand. Turakhia
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:20 PM
Subject: FW: Trainer, contents & proposal
Dear Sir,
Please find attached details for Linux for your perusal.
Regards
Marina
Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chandresh,
>
> You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It is honest request.
>
> Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to develop patches for ofbiz etc.
>
If you just need to learn setting up the development environment on your
Linux box, setting up Vendor branches for your subversion repositories,
I can step up and help you out. I am not a Ofbiz veteran and won't be of
much help in development of Ofbiz components as I am still learning.
Being a Java developer for 11 years, I can certainly help you other
things you mentioned.
Thanks,
Raj
Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
Posted by Ean Schuessler <ea...@brainfood.com>.
On Friday 19 January 2007 04:06, Gerrie Myburg [ MTN - Innovation Centre ]
wrote:
> attempt to pollute environment = variation of "not invented here"
> syndrome
True enough but organizations must maintain a cohesive internal strategy.
Without policy and strategy an organization has no structure and no ability
to coordinate its actions. When you get messaging that smells like "don't
pollute the environment" then you apparently don't have enough alignment
around you to move the project forward. Embedding OFBiz in an organization at
this early stage of the project will require a signficant amount of trust and
enthusiasm from the other organizational stakeholders. They have to
understand that OFBiz represents strategic competitive advantage and not a
dilution of core competencies. Respecting the concerns and building the
confidence of other people in the organization is critical to a successful
implementation.
Does that make sense?
--
Ean Schuessler, CTO
ean@brainfood.com
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com
RE: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents & proposal
Posted by "Gerrie Myburg [ MTN - Innovation Centre ]" <My...@mtn.co.za>.
attempt to pollute environment = variation of "not invented here"
syndrome
-----Original Message-----
From: Chandresh Turakhia [mailto:chand.turakhia@bhartitelesoft.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:47 AM
To: Anil Patel
Cc: ofbiz-dev@incubator.apache.org; Chandresh Turakhia
Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents &
proposal
Dear anil,
It takes 2 months to get approval for software or training even for
small amount. Training is so standard that you have got it 15 years
back when you first saw linuz.
10 days for permission to downlaod in large organization :( It is still
better than US telecom company.
Smart Rules : Not a penny could be spent on project till Project Pin is
generated. It is there where the project needs help before dying -
preborth death. Project abortion is well spread across all continents.
Please be request to know what made you think it was "attempt to pollute
environment ". I heard it earlier too. US telecom gave me Million
dollar stock , 100 K + salary but made sign papers for every single
thing. Half day goes in that. I started spending 10K from personal
money per year on parties to keep warring factor in company happy. All
I wanted was to get my idea accepted . People called it " attempt to
pollute environment ". Most in my company feels I am "attempt to
pollute environment " by bringing Open Source.
Getting 5 days standard training for linux was dumb for me. 50 guys
wasting 5 days. 50*5 = 250 days . Equal to 1 calendar working man year.
Instead I asked small guy to teach to code; I fell less fool than asking
on net. If I code ; rest will .... Even without training.
Nice miz : Ofbiz + Geronimo 2.0 + Linux . IOC and JNDI are not mizing
nicely :(. I have some idea which need to get implemented.
Be rest assured I will get help.
I may not want to miss this opportunity to congratulate you because you
sound stronger than 200 Billion company executive.... I like attitute.
:)
Great Job
Chand
----- Original Message -----
From: Anil Patel
To: Chandresh Turakhia
Cc: Ashish Vijaywargiya ; chandturakhia74@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD'sFw: Trainer, contents &
proposal
Chandresh,
I appreciate your interest in doing business with us and it will
definitely help our company's bottom line. In interest of long term
goals of our company, its important for us to concentrate in on what we
do best, i.e. Software development on top of Ofbiz. In 5 years of
history of our company we have never accepted any project that was not
build on top of Ofbiz framework. We are focused.
I request you to respect our decision and not attempt to pollute
environment of our company.
We do not provide training for Non Aditi Tech Labs employees. We
don't have any such service that provide for any kind of Support for
Software development team.
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
FYI: Hotwaxmedia does provide service that will help you in getting
started with Ofbiz development.
On 1/18/07, Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com>
wrote:
Hi Ashish ,
You might have to guide me as to how to be coding fit in ofbiz. It
is honest request.
Can you tell me how did u set up the development environment on ur
linuz box with all SVN to ofbiz server. How you manage to keep local
development different from what you are committing to ofbiz. How to
develop patches for ofbiz etc.
I am open to come to Indore to learn.
Alternatively nice if you give me what I need for training.
Pramagati is asking to give trainig but I would request you to guide me
as to what to ask for as "training requirements"
Chand
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashish Vijaywargiya
To: Chandresh Turakhia ; Anil Patel
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: Sent you 2 Ofbiz+Ubuntu Live CD's
Hi Chand,
Yesterday , I have sent you 2 Live CD of Ofbiz+Ubuntu.Probably you
will get it today.
You only need to place a disk on the CD-Drive and please make sure
that the CD-Drive is the first Bootable device.
It will be much better if machine configuration is not older then
1 year.(May be Ubuntu don't support driver for the older PC)
FYI , The Live CD will load within 8 or 10 minutes.
Let me know whenever you get the CD's.
Thanks.
--
Regards
Ashish Vijaywargiya
Aditisoft Technology Laboratory
----- Original Message -----
From: sandeep.nag
To: Chand. Turakhia
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:20 PM
Subject: FW: Trainer, contents & proposal
Dear Sir,
Please find attached details for Linux for your perusal.
Regards
Marina
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