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[DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Hi guys,
Apache is changing the mode in which ApacheCons are being held starting with the next ApacheCon NA in Miami.
Instead of having a separate ApacheCon and Apache Big Data, this time they will be held in parallel and will be starting on Tuesday going till Thursday.
This is done to create some space for Projects to do project summits on Monday. Projects that are interested will be able to get a half-day or full-day slot to do this.
I think we should sign up for such a summit and finally get the community to come together.
We have a lot of stuff to discuss and share and this would be a good opportunitiy for us to distribute knowledge (and herby reduce the bus-factor), get interested people up to speed and also spend a little time talking about weather, beaches, beer and non flex related stufff. I guess this would deffinitely help us grow together as a community even more.
What do you think? I would be happy to coordinate this.
Chris
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by yishayw <yi...@hotmail.com>.
Will look into that. Thanks.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Yishay,
Well in that case I would strongly suggest that you apply for TAC (Travel Assistance) ... that’s what it’s made for :-)
I did my first ApacheCon NA with TAC and so did several others.
Chris
Am 01.12.16, 09:59 schrieb "Yishay Weiss" <yi...@hotmail.com>:
It sounds like a good idea, but I’m not sure I’d have the resources to fly across the Atlantic for that. I’m hoping for a European (or Middle Eastern) event.
From: Christofer Dutz<ma...@c-ware.de>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:37 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Hi guys,
Apache is changing the mode in which ApacheCons are being held starting with the next ApacheCon NA in Miami.
Instead of having a separate ApacheCon and Apache Big Data, this time they will be held in parallel and will be starting on Tuesday going till Thursday.
This is done to create some space for Projects to do project summits on Monday. Projects that are interested will be able to get a half-day or full-day slot to do this.
I think we should sign up for such a summit and finally get the community to come together.
We have a lot of stuff to discuss and share and this would be a good opportunitiy for us to distribute knowledge (and herby reduce the bus-factor), get interested people up to speed and also spend a little time talking about weather, beaches, beer and non flex related stufff. I guess this would deffinitely help us grow together as a community even more.
What do you think? I would be happy to coordinate this.
Chris
RE: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Yishay Weiss <yi...@hotmail.com>.
It sounds like a good idea, but I’m not sure I’d have the resources to fly across the Atlantic for that. I’m hoping for a European (or Middle Eastern) event.
From: Christofer Dutz<ma...@c-ware.de>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:37 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Hi guys,
Apache is changing the mode in which ApacheCons are being held starting with the next ApacheCon NA in Miami.
Instead of having a separate ApacheCon and Apache Big Data, this time they will be held in parallel and will be starting on Tuesday going till Thursday.
This is done to create some space for Projects to do project summits on Monday. Projects that are interested will be able to get a half-day or full-day slot to do this.
I think we should sign up for such a summit and finally get the community to come together.
We have a lot of stuff to discuss and share and this would be a good opportunitiy for us to distribute knowledge (and herby reduce the bus-factor), get interested people up to speed and also spend a little time talking about weather, beaches, beer and non flex related stufff. I guess this would deffinitely help us grow together as a community even more.
What do you think? I would be happy to coordinate this.
Chris
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Hi Piotr, Chris,
reason is multiple, I'm somewhat crucified by multiple things going on my
life that make me very difficult to plan travels.
(Although is complicated I'll be spending some cycles investigating some
way, but taking into account that all bets are against me ;))
Thanks guys! :)
2017-01-31 13:09 GMT+01:00 Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> If the reason is of financial nature, you could apply for TAC (One of the
> big benefits of having the Summit at ApacheCon)
>
> But I think adding a “Let’s 1.0” sort of workshop/talk to the end of the
> days schedule, it would be great thing to add remote people to the
> discussion. Sort of physically present people sitting in a room discussing
> and people could attend remotely and appear on the Screen. I wouldn’t trust
> technology to have a full presentation based on such remoting though.
>
> Then at least we could get to see you in person … even if it would be
> difficult to join us going to a bar afterwards ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 31.01.17, 10:40 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> Ahh Carlos sad news that we won't meet in Miami. :(
>
> Hope we will have more options this year. :)
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Carlos,
If the reason is of financial nature, you could apply for TAC (One of the big benefits of having the Summit at ApacheCon)
But I think adding a “Let’s 1.0” sort of workshop/talk to the end of the days schedule, it would be great thing to add remote people to the discussion. Sort of physically present people sitting in a room discussing and people could attend remotely and appear on the Screen. I wouldn’t trust technology to have a full presentation based on such remoting though.
Then at least we could get to see you in person … even if it would be difficult to join us going to a bar afterwards ;-)
Chris
Am 31.01.17, 10:40 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Ahh Carlos sad news that we won't meet in Miami. :(
Hope we will have more options this year. :)
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Ahh Carlos sad news that we won't meet in Miami. :(
Hope we will have more options this year. :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Karl,
I've quotted what was in the email from Rich. The rest is mine words.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Piotr,
Well that was a misunderstanding of my question of anyone would be interested in such a summit.
The ASF and the LF would like us to have it. Now we have to decide if we’ll actually do it. There’s no use in having a summit no one wants to come to or speak at.
I doubt they will be giving out numbers as you don’t really sign up for the summit but for the conference and then you simply go to the summit you want to go to.
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 19:50 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Now it have for me greater sence cause I was thinking that we are debating
still whether Flex Summit should be available for sighn up, but it is
already available.
I just got email from Rich Bowen with list of available meetings:
"ApacheCon is a convention of Apache conferences. This year, we feature:
* Apache: Big Data
* CloudStack Colaboration Conference
* TomcatCon
* Flex Project Summit
* Apache IoT"
Is there will be any possibility to have after sometime how many people has
been sighn up?
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Karl KTA <ka...@kingtideapps.com>.
> On 28 Jan 2017, at 05:20, piotrz [via Apache Flex Development] <ml...@n4.nabble.com> wrote:
>
> Now it have for me greater sence cause I was thinking that we are debating still whether Flex Summit should be available for sighn up, but it is already available.
>
> I just got email from Rich Bowen with list of available meetings:
>
> "ApacheCon is a convention of Apache conferences. This year, we feature:
>
> * Apache: Big Data
> * CloudStack Colaboration Conference
> * TomcatCon
> * Flex Project Summit
> * Apache IoT"
>
> Is there will be any possibility to have after sometime how many people has been sighn up?
Sorry Piotr, is this line for me or from Rich to you? I am not part of collecting sign ups. Clearly they are very excited to have the Flex Project Summit on the list.
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Now it have for me greater sence cause I was thinking that we are debating
still whether Flex Summit should be available for sighn up, but it is
already available.
I just got email from Rich Bowen with list of available meetings:
"ApacheCon is a convention of Apache conferences. This year, we feature:
* Apache: Big Data
* CloudStack Colaboration Conference
* TomcatCon
* Flex Project Summit
* Apache IoT"
Is there will be any possibility to have after sometime how many people has
been sighn up?
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
It look like it went even farther. Now I have to come no matter what :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>.
I could give talk about using FlexJS with Visual Studio Code. Setting up
the VSCode extension, creating and compiling a project, language
intelligence features, and debugging ActionScript in a browser with source
maps.
- Josh
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> wrote:
> Ok sorry for the amount of traffic on this, but I’ve just got more infos
> on this from the LF.
>
> They would like us to have the Summit and they would like to have it as an
> integral part of ApacheCon. They would provide us with:
> Quote: “
> - room will be labeled as the Flex Summit (or other name ie CCC and
> TomcatCon)
> - you would be responsible to work with your community to program 5-6
> talks for the day. These can come from the main CFP that is currently open
> (encourage people to submit), unless you already have talks in mind.
> - we'll provide an ApacheCon registration for one speaker from each
> session (any secondary speakers will be offered a discount)
> - anyone with an ApacheCon badge will be able to attend the summit, and
> any summit specific attendees will still need to have a full ApacheCon badge
> - we'll highlight the Summit on our co-located event page and the talks
> will be included in the overall event schedule (to launch in March)
> - we'll provide branding for the Summit in the form of a room sign, and
> include the summit on other shared signage
> - if you have any potential sponsors, I'd suggest asking them to sponsor
> ApacheCon as a whole, even at the lowest level, and we'll also note them as
> an ApacheFlex sponsor.
> “
>
> So I think we should take this opportunity. I bet we would get the 5-6
> talks/workshops/whatever to fill the room for one day. As I bet no one has
> yet submitted any Flex talks, I would like us to manage the talks without
> the ApacheCon CFP. Each Speaker will get a free pass for ApacheCon so we
> should take care in spreading talks throughout the team. While I’m at it …
> who would like to have a talk and be willing to prepare one? We should
> concentrate on FlexJS, I think. But that’s just my opinion.
>
> Objections?
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 27.01.17, 18:26 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We only needed the 30 or so registrations as we wanted to have a fully
> separately bookable project summit. The other summits are all fully
> integrated into the ApacheCon and people can go to any of the summits they
> want and eventually visit events from multiple summits. I think we should
> go down that path. The only reason for me asking the LF about a separately
> bookable event was to make it easier for guys like Alex to only attend one
> day. But it guess the price for that is too high.
>
> I think we should do the Flex Summit and call it Apache FlexJS Summit.
> And again … the main reason for me wanting to do this, is to get part of
> the core Flex team together, meet, talk, set aside some of the differences
> and fill up the trenches between us that have started manifesting
> themselves more and more. Sort of a big kick-off meeting with us meeting,
> discussing things and getting the FlexJS ship towards its last part of the
> journey to the version 1.0. I see the online “conference” more as an
> additional thing to spread knowledge, but right now I think we need
> community. You don’t build community online.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 27.01.17, 17:49 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> Well I thought about my participating in Miami as a wonderfull
> adventure,
> opportunity to meet some folks from the team and the most
> important reasone
> cause I Love Flex.
>
> BUT, Alex here ponit us arguments which has sence to me.
> It look like we really didn't get enough attention and now I doubt
> we will
> get for that summit.
>
> I will wait a bit longer with TAC to see what will happen with
> that thread -
> If after some time I won't see more response I will leave TAC for
> another
> time -
>
> Otherwise I'm open to plan trip to Frankfurt in August if Miami
> won't work -
> It will be better financial time for me.
>
> Piotr
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Ok sorry for the amount of traffic on this, but I’ve just got more infos on this from the LF.
They would like us to have the Summit and they would like to have it as an integral part of ApacheCon. They would provide us with:
Quote: “
- room will be labeled as the Flex Summit (or other name ie CCC and TomcatCon)
- you would be responsible to work with your community to program 5-6 talks for the day. These can come from the main CFP that is currently open (encourage people to submit), unless you already have talks in mind.
- we'll provide an ApacheCon registration for one speaker from each session (any secondary speakers will be offered a discount)
- anyone with an ApacheCon badge will be able to attend the summit, and any summit specific attendees will still need to have a full ApacheCon badge
- we'll highlight the Summit on our co-located event page and the talks will be included in the overall event schedule (to launch in March)
- we'll provide branding for the Summit in the form of a room sign, and include the summit on other shared signage
- if you have any potential sponsors, I'd suggest asking them to sponsor ApacheCon as a whole, even at the lowest level, and we'll also note them as an ApacheFlex sponsor.
“
So I think we should take this opportunity. I bet we would get the 5-6 talks/workshops/whatever to fill the room for one day. As I bet no one has yet submitted any Flex talks, I would like us to manage the talks without the ApacheCon CFP. Each Speaker will get a free pass for ApacheCon so we should take care in spreading talks throughout the team. While I’m at it … who would like to have a talk and be willing to prepare one? We should concentrate on FlexJS, I think. But that’s just my opinion.
Objections?
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 18:26 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
We only needed the 30 or so registrations as we wanted to have a fully separately bookable project summit. The other summits are all fully integrated into the ApacheCon and people can go to any of the summits they want and eventually visit events from multiple summits. I think we should go down that path. The only reason for me asking the LF about a separately bookable event was to make it easier for guys like Alex to only attend one day. But it guess the price for that is too high.
I think we should do the Flex Summit and call it Apache FlexJS Summit. And again … the main reason for me wanting to do this, is to get part of the core Flex team together, meet, talk, set aside some of the differences and fill up the trenches between us that have started manifesting themselves more and more. Sort of a big kick-off meeting with us meeting, discussing things and getting the FlexJS ship towards its last part of the journey to the version 1.0. I see the online “conference” more as an additional thing to spread knowledge, but right now I think we need community. You don’t build community online.
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 17:49 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Well I thought about my participating in Miami as a wonderfull adventure,
opportunity to meet some folks from the team and the most important reasone
cause I Love Flex.
BUT, Alex here ponit us arguments which has sence to me.
It look like we really didn't get enough attention and now I doubt we will
get for that summit.
I will wait a bit longer with TAC to see what will happen with that thread -
If after some time I won't see more response I will leave TAC for another
time -
Otherwise I'm open to plan trip to Frankfurt in August if Miami won't work -
It will be better financial time for me.
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi all,
We only needed the 30 or so registrations as we wanted to have a fully separately bookable project summit. The other summits are all fully integrated into the ApacheCon and people can go to any of the summits they want and eventually visit events from multiple summits. I think we should go down that path. The only reason for me asking the LF about a separately bookable event was to make it easier for guys like Alex to only attend one day. But it guess the price for that is too high.
I think we should do the Flex Summit and call it Apache FlexJS Summit. And again … the main reason for me wanting to do this, is to get part of the core Flex team together, meet, talk, set aside some of the differences and fill up the trenches between us that have started manifesting themselves more and more. Sort of a big kick-off meeting with us meeting, discussing things and getting the FlexJS ship towards its last part of the journey to the version 1.0. I see the online “conference” more as an additional thing to spread knowledge, but right now I think we need community. You don’t build community online.
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 17:49 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Well I thought about my participating in Miami as a wonderfull adventure,
opportunity to meet some folks from the team and the most important reasone
cause I Love Flex.
BUT, Alex here ponit us arguments which has sence to me.
It look like we really didn't get enough attention and now I doubt we will
get for that summit.
I will wait a bit longer with TAC to see what will happen with that thread -
If after some time I won't see more response I will leave TAC for another
time -
Otherwise I'm open to plan trip to Frankfurt in August if Miami won't work -
It will be better financial time for me.
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Well I thought about my participating in Miami as a wonderfull adventure,
opportunity to meet some folks from the team and the most important reasone
cause I Love Flex.
BUT, Alex here ponit us arguments which has sence to me.
It look like we really didn't get enough attention and now I doubt we will
get for that summit.
I will wait a bit longer with TAC to see what will happen with that thread -
If after some time I won't see more response I will leave TAC for another
time -
Otherwise I'm open to plan trip to Frankfurt in August if Miami won't work -
It will be better financial time for me.
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi,
just came to this thread a bit late.
Want to say you that I think this is a great idea and as Chris I think some
time to meet you in person would be awesome. It's not all about the code
but the community.
Unfortunately, my options to move are very few since there's not only one
problem (but many) to handle in my case.
My only option could be to make a remote talk (maybe one about MDL in
FlexJS) to help pushing the effort
Thanks to move this! :)
Carlos
2017-01-29 10:41 GMT+01:00 piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>:
> Alex,
>
> If my TAC will be accepted and bosses give me days Off I will be also
> present. :)
>
> Piotr
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Alex,
If my TAC will be accepted and bosses give me days Off I will be also
present. :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Justin. It would be great. :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> 2) I see among the sponsors Pivotal - Justin do you think that they will have some talk on conference.
They have a number of TLP and incubating projects they are involved in so it’s very likely. But it will be more as an individual speaking about an Apache project they use / contribute to rather than a Pivotal representative. They may also have a vendor stand in the vendor area.
I also know that Roman (who works at Pivotal part time) is going to attend. I’ll introduce you, he’s likely to know other people from the company.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Justin I'm going to apply this week. :)
1) Two things - I think we could try to prepare such stack using FlexJS MDL
:) It can take a bit longer time so maybe someone could have other idea. But
in general we should have everything what we need to prepare such small
stack.
2) I see among the sponsors Pivotal - Justin do you think that they will
have some talk on conference. My company is close partnership with Pivotal.
I'm going to usk my bosses for some favor and such information would be a
plus. :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
I agree that if it will be some separate event proposed by Alex it probably
won't be refunded in any way by Adobe, so for me it could not be possible
attend.
Chris,
I'm going to give a shot and try to apply to TAC I hope next week. If they
accept me I will definatly try to get visa and hope to see you guys in
Miami! :)
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I will definitely be coming.
I’ll discuss things with the LF and try to make it happen later. Right now I think it would be Monday, but I don’t know if it could be Friday too
Chris
Am 29.01.17, 08:44 schrieb "Harbs" <ha...@gmail.com>:
I’d love to come.
I have another conference in Atlanta, Georgia the following week.
I’m not sure if that’s a plus or a minus in terms of my attendance.
I’ve been quiet so far because I don’t yet know whether I can make it or not.
FWIW, I would make an effort to come to something in Europe if possible.
What exact date are we talking about? FWIW, my chances of attending are probably probably better if it’s later in the week.
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, 11:00 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
>> cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail out.
>> I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation, the
>> ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
>> I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
>> project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit spot if
>> there are other projects that can bring more people.
>
> FWIW, I checked with Rich Bowen, the ASF ApacheCon leader. He is not
> worried if we end up with a small summit. So, I am no longer concerned
> about possible outcomes. Let's see how many people we can get to show up.
>
> It would be great if folks can confirm their attendance on this thread.
> It will help me make my case to my managers about going.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
I’d love to come.
I have another conference in Atlanta, Georgia the following week.
I’m not sure if that’s a plus or a minus in terms of my attendance.
I’ve been quiet so far because I don’t yet know whether I can make it or not.
FWIW, I would make an effort to come to something in Europe if possible.
What exact date are we talking about? FWIW, my chances of attending are probably probably better if it’s later in the week.
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, 11:00 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
>> cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail out.
>> I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation, the
>> ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
>> I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
>> project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit spot if
>> there are other projects that can bring more people.
>
> FWIW, I checked with Rich Bowen, the ASF ApacheCon leader. He is not
> worried if we end up with a small summit. So, I am no longer concerned
> about possible outcomes. Let's see how many people we can get to show up.
>
> It would be great if folks can confirm their attendance on this thread.
> It will help me make my case to my managers about going.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/26/17, 11:00 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
>cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail out.
> I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation, the
>ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
>I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
>project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit spot if
>there are other projects that can bring more people.
FWIW, I checked with Rich Bowen, the ASF ApacheCon leader. He is not
worried if we end up with a small summit. So, I am no longer concerned
about possible outcomes. Let's see how many people we can get to show up.
It would be great if folks can confirm their attendance on this thread.
It will help me make my case to my managers about going.
Thanks,
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> We definitely should have such a landing page to advertise … especially we could lay emphasis on the FlexJS to make people more curious
The source for the cloud stack site can be found here [1]. We have permission to repurpose it if we want.
Justin
1. https://github.com/cloudops/ca.cloudstackcollab.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I specially appreciate it, Miami sort of being the furthest away from Sydney :)
It’s only 24 hours + travel time.
Re talks I see what other people submit but perhaps I could submit one on code quality and testing???
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Justin,
Great to hear from you and great to hear that you are coming. I specially appreciate it, Miami sort of being the furthest away from Sydney :)
We definitely should have such a landing page to advertise … especially we could lay emphasis on the FlexJS to make people more curious
Regarding talks. I would prepare something on:
- Maven and FlexJS (What’s the current state, what are we working on, what’s up the pipeline)
I also think we should have a discussion session sort of down the line of:
- What do we want/need in order to call it a 1.0?
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 23:42 schrieb "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
Hi,
Been a busy week and I’m just catching up with emails.
I’m planning on attending ApacheCon Miami and would attend a Flex / FlexJS summit.
I prefer face to face conferences over online ones (having attended many of them over the years). Technology issues and time zones can make online conferences a poor experience for attendees. A better online experience is pre recorded and edited videos which is more work for the speakers and organisers but works far better for attendees. But online conferences generally less costly to attend and don't involve travel which can be an advantage.
That being said (and I assume there others in the same boat) it's would be unlikely for me to travel to the US or Europe for a one day event - unless (like ApacheCon) it dove tailed into another event I also wanted to attend.
Alex even if you don’t attend ApacheCon this time would it be possible to get Adobe on as a sponsor?
Piotrz I recommend to apply to TAC, both Chis and I attended an ApacheCon via TAC and it was a great experience. You get to meet lots of great people and ApacheCon is a great introduction to the wider Apache community.
One of the summits has set up this site [1]. Should we do something similar?
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://us.cloudstackcollab.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/27/17, 2:42 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>Alex even if you don’t attend ApacheCon this time would it be possible to
>get Adobe on as a sponsor?
My budget has no room for sponsorship. If we do get enough folks for the
summit, I'll be blowing the budget getting Peter and me to Miami. Apache
has way more senior folks with much bigger budgets who should be getting
Adobe to sponsor.
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Been a busy week and I’m just catching up with emails.
I’m planning on attending ApacheCon Miami and would attend a Flex / FlexJS summit.
I prefer face to face conferences over online ones (having attended many of them over the years). Technology issues and time zones can make online conferences a poor experience for attendees. A better online experience is pre recorded and edited videos which is more work for the speakers and organisers but works far better for attendees. But online conferences generally less costly to attend and don't involve travel which can be an advantage.
That being said (and I assume there others in the same boat) it's would be unlikely for me to travel to the US or Europe for a one day event - unless (like ApacheCon) it dove tailed into another event I also wanted to attend.
Alex even if you don’t attend ApacheCon this time would it be possible to get Adobe on as a sponsor?
Piotrz I recommend to apply to TAC, both Chis and I attended an ApacheCon via TAC and it was a great experience. You get to meet lots of great people and ApacheCon is a great introduction to the wider Apache community.
One of the summits has set up this site [1]. Should we do something similar?
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://us.cloudstackcollab.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Well, if you are open to alternative proposals, one is to have two
"summits", one in EU, one in Seattle. And they would be oriented towards
online attendees, and would be free to attend.
Here are some observations:
-One or more of us have attended every ApacheCon for about 5 years and not
netted a single new committer.
-More folks attended the FlexJS World Tour in the Bay Area online than in
person.
-We have been talking about a Summit at ApacheCon for several days now.
About 700 folks got the email and only one new person (Karl) raised his
hand to attend.
-It may be more difficult for some folks in the EU to get to Miami.
-Many key contributors to FlexJS are not in the US (Harbs, Yishay, Piotr,
Carlos, Chris).
So yeah, it is a bummer that you will be in the US for ApacheCon and I
might not meet up with you this time. But I was looking at travel
yesterday and the web says it is 10 hours for me to get to Miami. And 15
hours to get to Frankfurt. And ApacheCon is happening near the end of the
school year for my kids.
If you can still offer your company's conference room for a face-to-face
for free, and it turns out that more of Piotr, Carlos, Harbs, Yishay, and
Olaf can agree on a date between around June 21 and Aug 21 to attend in
person, I will much prefer to spend my time and money going to Frankfurt
in the summer, and if I can't make it, I will get up early or stay up late
and attend online.
I can almost certainly offer Seattle as the US meet up location, and it
makes it easy for Josh, who is another key contributor, to attend. I can
offer the Bay Area and maybe Boston or New York if there are collections
of folks who would want to meet up in that region.
My sense is that there just isn't enough money in Flex/FlexJS to make the
value proposition of attending face-to-face worth it to enough people to
gather even 20 of us in one place right now. The world is too big, travel
is too expensive, on-line meetings work pretty well, Flex doesn't have
enough new things, and FlexJS doesn't have enough traction. IOW, what
will potential customers get out of paying for attending in Miami that
they wouldn't get online for free? You have a different value proposition
to your company because you have taken on ASF-wide duties and there is
value to being a speaker. But all 30 folks that we want to draw in can't
be speakers, so there has to be some other value they get for attending.
I would need to know that we are at 10 attendees before the
committer-price deadline expires otherwise I will have difficulties
convincing my management that Miami is the right place to go.
If Piotr or anyone else does get to Miami via TAC, they will have TAC
duties to perform. Will there be a guarantee that those duties will not
conflict with attendance at our summit?
Thoughts?
-Alex
On 1/27/17, 12:24 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>The thing is:
>
>I will definitely not fly to the US Bay Area (I would be surprised to
>hear any different proposal) for just one day. ApacheCon has the benefit
>of being a large conference, that is worth doing such a trip. My company
>allows me to go, because of the marketing value of being a speaker at a
>large international conference (Or at least for serving my part as part
>of the Foundation (TAC)). Being a speaker or even just an attendee on a
>little 20-person event in some meeting room at Adobe will definitely not
>buy me the ticket.
>
>ApacheCon provides the chance for people from all over the world to
>gather there and the chance to have those, who can’t afford coming by
>applying for TAC.
>
>A separate event will probably just benefit a few people in the area
>around the location the event is hosted at, but definitely not be a
>community thing.
>
>The 30 People thing is also just because I asked for a separately
>bookable event. I guess if we make it happen as fully integrated part of
>ApacheCon that requirement would be different. After all the reason for
>me asking for the separate charge was to make it possible for you (Alex)
>to only come for the one day, as you stated, that you wouldn’t like to
>come for the entire conference.
>
>And I would like to call it “FlexJS Project Summit” even if it’s not 100%
>correct. But I think for most people Flex is old and dead. I think we
>wouldn’t be talking much about the old Flex SDK, but focus completely on
>FlexJS, so I think this would make more people curious to read what we
>are doing.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>Am 27.01.17, 08:00 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, 1:49 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
>wrote:
>
> >I’ll definitely volunteer to handle the details … well I guess most
> >things are already handled and I’m just waiting on a “Go-consensus”,
>but
> >I think we have that and now it would be up to filling the seats ;-)
> >
> >I think this would be the best option to finally get the team
>together
> >AND get new people involved.
> >
> >For me the community over code thing is not restricted to “Flex
>community
> >over Flex code”, but more a total ASF view thing.
> >
> >For me it’s 1000+ to make it happen.
>
> Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
> cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail
>out.
> I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation,
>the
> ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
> I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
> project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit
>spot if
> there are other projects that can bring more people.
>
> I certainly hope there will be a year where there is enough money in
>Flex
> to fill enough seats to have a summit at ApacheCon. Based on early
> responses, I'm not clear that 2017 is the year. If we decide not to
>do a
> summit at ApacheCon, I have some alternate proposals for us to
>consider.
> I've purposefully not proposed them so far so as not to dilute
>attention
> from this attempt to have a summit.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
The thing is:
I will definitely not fly to the US Bay Area (I would be surprised to hear any different proposal) for just one day. ApacheCon has the benefit of being a large conference, that is worth doing such a trip. My company allows me to go, because of the marketing value of being a speaker at a large international conference (Or at least for serving my part as part of the Foundation (TAC)). Being a speaker or even just an attendee on a little 20-person event in some meeting room at Adobe will definitely not buy me the ticket.
ApacheCon provides the chance for people from all over the world to gather there and the chance to have those, who can’t afford coming by applying for TAC.
A separate event will probably just benefit a few people in the area around the location the event is hosted at, but definitely not be a community thing.
The 30 People thing is also just because I asked for a separately bookable event. I guess if we make it happen as fully integrated part of ApacheCon that requirement would be different. After all the reason for me asking for the separate charge was to make it possible for you (Alex) to only come for the one day, as you stated, that you wouldn’t like to come for the entire conference.
And I would like to call it “FlexJS Project Summit” even if it’s not 100% correct. But I think for most people Flex is old and dead. I think we wouldn’t be talking much about the old Flex SDK, but focus completely on FlexJS, so I think this would make more people curious to read what we are doing.
Chris
Am 27.01.17, 08:00 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
On 1/26/17, 1:49 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>I’ll definitely volunteer to handle the details … well I guess most
>things are already handled and I’m just waiting on a “Go-consensus”, but
>I think we have that and now it would be up to filling the seats ;-)
>
>I think this would be the best option to finally get the team together
>AND get new people involved.
>
>For me the community over code thing is not restricted to “Flex community
>over Flex code”, but more a total ASF view thing.
>
>For me it’s 1000+ to make it happen.
Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail out.
I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation, the
ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit spot if
there are other projects that can bring more people.
I certainly hope there will be a year where there is enough money in Flex
to fill enough seats to have a summit at ApacheCon. Based on early
responses, I'm not clear that 2017 is the year. If we decide not to do a
summit at ApacheCon, I have some alternate proposals for us to consider.
I've purposefully not proposed them so far so as not to dilute attention
from this attempt to have a summit.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/26/17, 1:49 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>I’ll definitely volunteer to handle the details … well I guess most
>things are already handled and I’m just waiting on a “Go-consensus”, but
>I think we have that and now it would be up to filling the seats ;-)
>
>I think this would be the best option to finally get the team together
>AND get new people involved.
>
>For me the community over code thing is not restricted to “Flex community
>over Flex code”, but more a total ASF view thing.
>
>For me it’s 1000+ to make it happen.
Well, it is certainly worth pursuing, but I am wondering if there is a
cut-off date where, if we don't have enough seats filled, we can bail out.
I'm not clear it is in the best interests of the Linux Foundation, the
ASF, or even Flex if only 6 people can make it.
I thought I saw that there is only room at ApacheCon for one more
project's summit. It doesn’t seem right that we take up a summit spot if
there are other projects that can bring more people.
I certainly hope there will be a year where there is enough money in Flex
to fill enough seats to have a summit at ApacheCon. Based on early
responses, I'm not clear that 2017 is the year. If we decide not to do a
summit at ApacheCon, I have some alternate proposals for us to consider.
I've purposefully not proposed them so far so as not to dilute attention
from this attempt to have a summit.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I’ll definitely volunteer to handle the details … well I guess most things are already handled and I’m just waiting on a “Go-consensus”, but I think we have that and now it would be up to filling the seats ;-)
I think this would be the best option to finally get the team together AND get new people involved.
For me the community over code thing is not restricted to “Flex community over Flex code”, but more a total ASF view thing.
For me it’s 1000+ to make it happen.
Chris
Am 26.01.17, 20:41 schrieb "Rich Bowen" <rb...@apache.org>:
On 2017-01-24 12:23 (-0500), Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> Even if we don't get numbers this year, it is nice to know that LF is a
> possibility for the future, so thanks for at least establishing that.
Yes. Note that not only is it a possibility, but this is specifically the direction that we want to take with ApacheCon - a convention of Apache project/community conferences. Apache: Big Data was the test balloon, so to speak. This time we'll have Apache: IoT, and TomcatCon, and CloudStack Collaboration Conference. It would be great to have Flex in the list as well.
Look for a blog post on https://blogs.apache.org/conferences/ in the next few days elaborating further on this idea. And please drop by the apachecon-discuss@apache.org mailing list if you want to get in on actually making it happen.
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org>.
On 2017-01-24 12:23 (-0500), Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> Even if we don't get numbers this year, it is nice to know that LF is a
> possibility for the future, so thanks for at least establishing that.
Yes. Note that not only is it a possibility, but this is specifically the direction that we want to take with ApacheCon - a convention of Apache project/community conferences. Apache: Big Data was the test balloon, so to speak. This time we'll have Apache: IoT, and TomcatCon, and CloudStack Collaboration Conference. It would be great to have Flex in the list as well.
Look for a blog post on https://blogs.apache.org/conferences/ in the next few days elaborating further on this idea. And please drop by the apachecon-discuss@apache.org mailing list if you want to get in on actually making it happen.
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/24/17, 12:54 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
>So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”,
>“-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who
>sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If
>it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more
>time into this.
Even if we don't get numbers this year, it is nice to know that LF is a
possibility for the future, so thanks for at least establishing that.
Thanks,
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 Chris!
Great idea and thanks for figuring all this out.
Personally, I want to attend the event. So I will try to figure things out
at work.
Nice work!
Thanks,
Om
On Jan 24, 2017 4:16 AM, "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Even with TAC I don't have capability to apply. It's really difficult here
> get visa to US and costs are not returned if they won't allow me to go
> there.
>
> Thank you,
> Piotr
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Chris,
Even with TAC I don't have capability to apply. It's really difficult here
get visa to US and costs are not returned if they won't allow me to go
there.
Thank you,
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Dammit … I forgot to mention something else I managed to arrange ☺
Applications to TAC are opening in the next days. If your TAC application gets accepted the Apache Fondation will cover all the travel costs for staying the entire week including the Summit (Actually being able to stay the whole working-week is a requirement for getting your application accepted).
Now you may think that others might be more worthy of applying but I would like to convince you to apply if money is what’s keeping you from going. In the past few times I have been acting as a Judge and part of the organization of TAC we have had several TACers that turned out being happy to attend a free holiday, so if we get people really wanting to get involved in Apache and Apache Projects, this is what TAC is really made for.
@Piotr you have been really active in the past and it would be a shame to not have you there. So please reconsider.
I would love to meet all of you guys I only know email addresses of.
Chris
Am 24.01.17, 09:59 schrieb "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>:
Hello Chris,
I have no budget to visit US :(
Will try to attend ApacheCon EU :)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Ok so I managed to come up with a proposal for a Flex Summit prior to ApacheCon this year in Miami:
>
> We could have an official Flex Project Summit on Monday prior to ApacheCon at the ApacheCon venue. However financially this would be a separate thing.
> At a Price of 125$/Person we would be provided with a location which is fully equipped and capable of hosting 40 People (Including projector, wifi, audio-recording, power-plugs, …).
>
> A financial break-even for the Linux Foundation would be at 30 registrations. If we manage to get above that number, the LF would add some food goodies to the coffee break. If we are below the 30 they could reduce the costs by removing Mic and Recording. I guess that’s a really fair deal. What do you think?
>
> If we agree and see a chance of having somewhere around the 30 Attendees, I could give the girls the go and they would setup a registration-form for the event. We would be added to the “Co-Located events” Page of the ApacheCon and get two dedicated Flex Summit Signs on Site (Yay … wouldn’t have done it without those signs ☺ )
>
> So now we need to check how many people would really register for such a thing. I don’t want to have the girls do the preparation work for just 10 People attending.
>
> So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”, “-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more time into this.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 19.01.17, 16:13 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>
> On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
>
> Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
> BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
> conference.
> So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
>
> The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
> would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
> the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
> afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
> would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
> from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
> is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
> that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
> the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
> ApacheCon this year.
>
> So again … what do you guys think?
>
>
> +1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
>
>
>
> On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> >I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
> >
> >Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
> me
> >fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
> >
> >Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
> >but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
> >but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
> >This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
> FlexJS
> >event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
>
> ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
> or
> after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
> ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
> undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
> ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
> business. Not sure.
>
> FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
> about
> 10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
> next
> get-together should just be on-line.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I really scared of the fact there will be no ApacheCon EU this year :(
I have my wedding on May 25 this year, and already have scheduled trip
to Prague on May 26 ....
I'm afraid bachelor's party on May 16-20 in Miami will be too much :)))))
Maybe I can see you in Prague? Unofficial Flex Meetup :)))
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> As I said Maxim … I am not sure there will be one this year.
> And think of applying for TAC … you remember it’s a lot of fun too ;-)
>
> Chris
>
> Am 24.01.17, 09:59 schrieb "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> I have no budget to visit US :(
> Will try to attend ApacheCon EU :)
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Christofer Dutz
> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> > Ok so I managed to come up with a proposal for a Flex Summit prior to ApacheCon this year in Miami:
> >
> > We could have an official Flex Project Summit on Monday prior to ApacheCon at the ApacheCon venue. However financially this would be a separate thing.
> > At a Price of 125$/Person we would be provided with a location which is fully equipped and capable of hosting 40 People (Including projector, wifi, audio-recording, power-plugs, …).
> >
> > A financial break-even for the Linux Foundation would be at 30 registrations. If we manage to get above that number, the LF would add some food goodies to the coffee break. If we are below the 30 they could reduce the costs by removing Mic and Recording. I guess that’s a really fair deal. What do you think?
> >
> > If we agree and see a chance of having somewhere around the 30 Attendees, I could give the girls the go and they would setup a registration-form for the event. We would be added to the “Co-Located events” Page of the ApacheCon and get two dedicated Flex Summit Signs on Site (Yay … wouldn’t have done it without those signs ☺ )
> >
> > So now we need to check how many people would really register for such a thing. I don’t want to have the girls do the preparation work for just 10 People attending.
> >
> > So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”, “-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more time into this.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 19.01.17, 16:13 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
> >
> > Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
> > BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
> > conference.
> > So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
> >
> > The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
> > would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
> > the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
> > afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
> > would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
> > from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
> > is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
> > that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
> > the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
> > ApacheCon this year.
> >
> > So again … what do you guys think?
> >
> >
> > +1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Om
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
> > >
> > >Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
> > me
> > >fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
> > >
> > >Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
> > >but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
> > >but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
> > >This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
> > FlexJS
> > >event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
> >
> > ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
> > or
> > after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
> > ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
> > undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
> > ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
> > business. Not sure.
> >
> > FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
> > about
> > 10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
> > next
> > get-together should just be on-line.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
As I said Maxim … I am not sure there will be one this year.
And think of applying for TAC … you remember it’s a lot of fun too ;-)
Chris
Am 24.01.17, 09:59 schrieb "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>:
Hello Chris,
I have no budget to visit US :(
Will try to attend ApacheCon EU :)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Ok so I managed to come up with a proposal for a Flex Summit prior to ApacheCon this year in Miami:
>
> We could have an official Flex Project Summit on Monday prior to ApacheCon at the ApacheCon venue. However financially this would be a separate thing.
> At a Price of 125$/Person we would be provided with a location which is fully equipped and capable of hosting 40 People (Including projector, wifi, audio-recording, power-plugs, …).
>
> A financial break-even for the Linux Foundation would be at 30 registrations. If we manage to get above that number, the LF would add some food goodies to the coffee break. If we are below the 30 they could reduce the costs by removing Mic and Recording. I guess that’s a really fair deal. What do you think?
>
> If we agree and see a chance of having somewhere around the 30 Attendees, I could give the girls the go and they would setup a registration-form for the event. We would be added to the “Co-Located events” Page of the ApacheCon and get two dedicated Flex Summit Signs on Site (Yay … wouldn’t have done it without those signs ☺ )
>
> So now we need to check how many people would really register for such a thing. I don’t want to have the girls do the preparation work for just 10 People attending.
>
> So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”, “-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more time into this.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 19.01.17, 16:13 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>
> On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
>
> Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
> BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
> conference.
> So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
>
> The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
> would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
> the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
> afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
> would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
> from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
> is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
> that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
> the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
> ApacheCon this year.
>
> So again … what do you guys think?
>
>
> +1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
>
>
>
> On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> >I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
> >
> >Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
> me
> >fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
> >
> >Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
> >but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
> >but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
> >This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
> FlexJS
> >event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
>
> ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
> or
> after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
> ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
> undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
> ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
> business. Not sure.
>
> FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
> about
> 10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
> next
> get-together should just be on-line.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Chris,
I have no budget to visit US :(
Will try to attend ApacheCon EU :)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> Ok so I managed to come up with a proposal for a Flex Summit prior to ApacheCon this year in Miami:
>
> We could have an official Flex Project Summit on Monday prior to ApacheCon at the ApacheCon venue. However financially this would be a separate thing.
> At a Price of 125$/Person we would be provided with a location which is fully equipped and capable of hosting 40 People (Including projector, wifi, audio-recording, power-plugs, …).
>
> A financial break-even for the Linux Foundation would be at 30 registrations. If we manage to get above that number, the LF would add some food goodies to the coffee break. If we are below the 30 they could reduce the costs by removing Mic and Recording. I guess that’s a really fair deal. What do you think?
>
> If we agree and see a chance of having somewhere around the 30 Attendees, I could give the girls the go and they would setup a registration-form for the event. We would be added to the “Co-Located events” Page of the ApacheCon and get two dedicated Flex Summit Signs on Site (Yay … wouldn’t have done it without those signs ☺ )
>
> So now we need to check how many people would really register for such a thing. I don’t want to have the girls do the preparation work for just 10 People attending.
>
> So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”, “-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more time into this.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 19.01.17, 16:13 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>
> On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
>
> Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
> BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
> conference.
> So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
>
> The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
> would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
> the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
> afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
> would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
> from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
> is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
> that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
> the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
> ApacheCon this year.
>
> So again … what do you guys think?
>
>
> +1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
>
> Regards,
> Om
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
>
>
>
> On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> >I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
> >
> >Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
> me
> >fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
> >
> >Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
> >but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
> >but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
> >This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
> FlexJS
> >event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
>
> ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
> or
> after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
> ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
> undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
> ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
> business. Not sure.
>
> FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
> about
> 10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
> next
> get-together should just be on-line.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Chris,
Thank you for this one!
Unfortunately I won't come this time cause don't have visa and costs are out
of range for me, but I'm looking forward next event in Europe.
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Ok so I managed to come up with a proposal for a Flex Summit prior to ApacheCon this year in Miami:
We could have an official Flex Project Summit on Monday prior to ApacheCon at the ApacheCon venue. However financially this would be a separate thing.
At a Price of 125$/Person we would be provided with a location which is fully equipped and capable of hosting 40 People (Including projector, wifi, audio-recording, power-plugs, …).
A financial break-even for the Linux Foundation would be at 30 registrations. If we manage to get above that number, the LF would add some food goodies to the coffee break. If we are below the 30 they could reduce the costs by removing Mic and Recording. I guess that’s a really fair deal. What do you think?
If we agree and see a chance of having somewhere around the 30 Attendees, I could give the girls the go and they would setup a registration-form for the event. We would be added to the “Co-Located events” Page of the ApacheCon and get two dedicated Flex Summit Signs on Site (Yay … wouldn’t have done it without those signs ☺ )
So now we need to check how many people would really register for such a thing. I don’t want to have the girls do the preparation work for just 10 People attending.
So guys … please don’t stay quiet … I would be happy to get some “+1”, “-1” or “0” … or “+10000” to see where we’re going. So all of you who sort of switched to monitoring mode on this list … please speak up. If it’s only the usual 1 x -1 and 3 x +1 there’s no use in me investing more time into this.
Chris
Am 19.01.17, 16:13 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
conference.
So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
ApacheCon this year.
So again … what do you guys think?
+1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
Regards,
Om
Chris
Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
>I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
>
>Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
me
>fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
>
>Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
>but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
>but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
>This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
FlexJS
>event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
or
after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
business. Not sure.
FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
about
10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
next
get-together should just be on-line.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 19, 2017 3:42 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and
BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the
conference.
So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con
would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics,
the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to
afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF
would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one
from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it
is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm
that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking
the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European
ApacheCon this year.
So again … what do you guys think?
+1 for sure. Thanks for working on this!
Regards,
Om
Chris
Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
>I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
>
>Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have
me
>fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
>
>Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
>but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
>but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
>This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the
FlexJS
>event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before
or
after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
business. Not sure.
FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had
about
10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the
next
get-together should just be on-line.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Yeah … well I would still like some other opinions.
Thing is, that the ApacheCon was intentionally changed to having Core and BigData in parallel to make room for a Project Summit Day prior to the conference.
So I’m proposing to do exactly this.
The good thing of us having a Project Summit as part of the Apache Con would be that the Linux Foundation takes care of organizing, the logistics, the Tickets and so on. And people wanting to attend, but not being able to afford it, can apply for Apache Travel Assistance. In the best case the ASF would pay for flights, hotel and conference. I contacted Angela (the one from the Linux Foundation who organizes the conference) and asked her if it is possible to buy just a Project Summit ticket. Hopefully she will confirm that this is possible. In that case I don’t see a reason for us not taking the opportunity. Especially as eventually there might not be a European ApacheCon this year.
So again … what do you guys think?
Chris
Am 18.01.17, 17:25 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
>
>Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have me
>fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
>
>Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
>but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
>but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
>This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the FlexJS
>event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before or
after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
business. Not sure.
FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had about
10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the next
get-together should just be on-line.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/18/17, 3:52 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
>
>Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have me
>fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
>
>Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference,
>but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference,
>but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
>This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the FlexJS
>event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
ApacheCon has a rule about "no other conferences within 3 weeks before or
after ApacheCon". Naturally, they want sponsors to put money into
ApacheCon and attendees to buy tickets. Anything that looks like it
undercuts that would be denied. It might be possible to convince
ApacheCon that our little 10-30 person get-together does not harm their
business. Not sure.
FWIW, at the last (and only, so far) FlexJS World Tour, we only had about
10 non-committers show up. Many more attended on-line. So maybe the next
get-together should just be on-line.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
I just remembered that I wanted to reply to this one …
Well the thing is, that I won’t be able to convince my company to have me fly to the US just for a FlexJS event with about 10-30 attendees.
Would it be an option, if there was a FlexJS Day before the conference, but attendees wouldn’t have to buy a ticket for the entire conference, but could only come (and eventually pay) for the FlexJS event?
This way I could justify the costs with my boss … speaking at the FlexJS event and the Conference would definitely be enough for them.
Chris
Am 01.12.16, 17:43 schrieb "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>:
On 12/1/16, 12:37 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>Apache is changing the mode in which ApacheCons are being held starting
>with the next ApacheCon NA in Miami.
>Instead of having a separate ApacheCon and Apache Big Data, this time
>they will be held in parallel and will be starting on Tuesday going till
>Thursday.
>This is done to create some space for Projects to do project summits on
>Monday. Projects that are interested will be able to get a half-day or
>full-day slot to do this.
>
>I think we should sign up for such a summit and finally get the community
>to come together.
>
>We have a lot of stuff to discuss and share and this would be a good
>opportunitiy for us to distribute knowledge (and herby reduce the
>bus-factor), get interested people up to speed and also spend a little
>time talking about weather, beaches, beer and non flex related stufff. I
>guess this would deffinitely help us grow together as a community even
>more.
>
>What do you think? I would be happy to coordinate this.
Having another FlexJS World Tour event would probably be a good thing.
Not sure if ApacheCon is the place to do it. Did you do some FlexJS talks
at ApacheCon EU? How was attendance? You had good attendance at
ApacheCon NA, but I'm not sure we hooked any new committers from it.
That's why I wonder if there is some other place and time we should have
an event.
When are other folks available to travel to the US and/or Europe in 2017?
Miami is so far away from Seattle, it might as well be in another
continent. US West Coast is always easier for me.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 12/1/16, 12:37 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>Apache is changing the mode in which ApacheCons are being held starting
>with the next ApacheCon NA in Miami.
>Instead of having a separate ApacheCon and Apache Big Data, this time
>they will be held in parallel and will be starting on Tuesday going till
>Thursday.
>This is done to create some space for Projects to do project summits on
>Monday. Projects that are interested will be able to get a half-day or
>full-day slot to do this.
>
>I think we should sign up for such a summit and finally get the community
>to come together.
>
>We have a lot of stuff to discuss and share and this would be a good
>opportunitiy for us to distribute knowledge (and herby reduce the
>bus-factor), get interested people up to speed and also spend a little
>time talking about weather, beaches, beer and non flex related stufff. I
>guess this would deffinitely help us grow together as a community even
>more.
>
>What do you think? I would be happy to coordinate this.
Having another FlexJS World Tour event would probably be a good thing.
Not sure if ApacheCon is the place to do it. Did you do some FlexJS talks
at ApacheCon EU? How was attendance? You had good attendance at
ApacheCon NA, but I'm not sure we hooked any new committers from it.
That's why I wonder if there is some other place and time we should have
an event.
When are other folks available to travel to the US and/or Europe in 2017?
Miami is so far away from Seattle, it might as well be in another
continent. US West Coast is always easier for me.
Thoughts?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@codeoscopic.com>.
Hi Karl,
that sounds really good. It's great to see people joining the effort. So
much appreciated! :)
2017-01-24 20:06 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Karl KTA <ka...@kingtideapps.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Chris and All,
> >
> > Stick with the message it's about ApacheCon.
> >
> > I am a designer not a coder, a massive believer in FlexJS.
> >
> > My team has passionately put everything over the past years into
> developing
> > our core APP Platform with Flex, all with little support and we love it.
> >
> > While this project is now much too complicated to convert to FlexJS, at
> > least for now, we are looking to build our web dashboard with FlexJS and
> I
> > will reach out to the group soon to see if these is someone available to
> > get
> > us up a using the MDL components quickly.
> >
> > With ApacheCon, I'm a +2 (up to +25). today I will pitch to my team that
> we
> > (Platform soon to be named) will sponsor the shortfall of the 30 seat
> > minimum if you guys are sure thats enough to secure the Signs!, thats
> > exactly what this is about, the Signs. Putting a big huge light on
> FlexJS,
> > and a commitment behind you lot for making this happen.
> >
>
> Wow, that is a huge commitment! If you and your company can help us out in
> this way, that would be a huge deal. Thanks for the offer. But, let us
> hope that we that many attendees organically.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
> >
> > Even with the commitment of 5 people to attend, that's a beginning worth
> > supporting AND ITS STILL EARLY, It's January and we have until May to
> > encourage more participation.
> >
> > After 3.5 years our Platform is finally making revenue and in the last
> > couple of years we have gone from questioning the declining support for
> our
> > preferred development tools to seeing an explosion and enthusiasm that is
> > worthy of everyone's support.
> >
> > Chris, this is what I can offer and I hope this is enough for your team
> to
> > get behind to begin organising.
> >
> > We don't want an empty room. We want a full one. What we want is the
> > problem
> > of having LF supporting us with sandwiches PLUS searching for a bigger
> > room.
> > That won't happen at all if we're not there.
> >
> > You have done he hard yards and FlexJS has enough maturity for the
> broader
> > developer community to engage with it.
> >
> > Imaging what could come from us all siting in a room together.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Karl Falzon
> > Design Director and CEO
> > King Tide Apps Pty Ltd, Adelaide, Australia.
> >
> >
> >
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> > project-summit-at-ApacheCon-NA-2017-tp56860p58651.html
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Karl KTA <ka...@kingtideapps.com> wrote:
> Hello Chris and All,
>
> Stick with the message it's about ApacheCon.
>
> I am a designer not a coder, a massive believer in FlexJS.
>
> My team has passionately put everything over the past years into developing
> our core APP Platform with Flex, all with little support and we love it.
>
> While this project is now much too complicated to convert to FlexJS, at
> least for now, we are looking to build our web dashboard with FlexJS and I
> will reach out to the group soon to see if these is someone available to
> get
> us up a using the MDL components quickly.
>
> With ApacheCon, I'm a +2 (up to +25). today I will pitch to my team that we
> (Platform soon to be named) will sponsor the shortfall of the 30 seat
> minimum if you guys are sure thats enough to secure the Signs!, thats
> exactly what this is about, the Signs. Putting a big huge light on FlexJS,
> and a commitment behind you lot for making this happen.
>
Wow, that is a huge commitment! If you and your company can help us out in
this way, that would be a huge deal. Thanks for the offer. But, let us
hope that we that many attendees organically.
Thanks,
Om
>
> Even with the commitment of 5 people to attend, that's a beginning worth
> supporting AND ITS STILL EARLY, It's January and we have until May to
> encourage more participation.
>
> After 3.5 years our Platform is finally making revenue and in the last
> couple of years we have gone from questioning the declining support for our
> preferred development tools to seeing an explosion and enthusiasm that is
> worthy of everyone's support.
>
> Chris, this is what I can offer and I hope this is enough for your team to
> get behind to begin organising.
>
> We don't want an empty room. We want a full one. What we want is the
> problem
> of having LF supporting us with sandwiches PLUS searching for a bigger
> room.
> That won't happen at all if we're not there.
>
> You have done he hard yards and FlexJS has enough maturity for the broader
> developer community to engage with it.
>
> Imaging what could come from us all siting in a room together.
>
> Cheers
>
> Karl Falzon
> Design Director and CEO
> King Tide Apps Pty Ltd, Adelaide, Australia.
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://apache-flex-
> development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Have-a-Flex-
> project-summit-at-ApacheCon-NA-2017-tp56860p58651.html
> Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/26/17, 10:27 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>Hmmm … so it seems someone on the Board must have misunderstood my
>question.
>The officially announced the Flex Summit, so I guess I will start working
>on the details.
IMO, you should caution the ApacheCon folks that we don't currently have
the numbers to make this worthwhile. Who has committed so far? Should we
discuss alternatives or wait a bit longer for reponses?
-Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> wrote:
> Hmmm … so it seems someone on the Board must have misunderstood my
> question.
> The officially announced the Flex Summit, so I guess I will start working
> on the details.
>
Lol. I guess we have a Flex Summit in Miami now :-)
>
> Chris
>
> Am 25.01.17, 15:39 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Ok … indeed that would be quite a huge commitment. But I guess it’s
> not worth much, if we plan a big event and all we have are 10 real
> attendants :-(
> It’s a lot of work preparing such a thing, so there should be a
> certain amount of people attending to make it worth the time and work.
> Let’s see if a few more people confirm interest in a FlexJS summit.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 24.01.17, 22:38 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Karl,
>
> WOW from Poland!
>
> Thank you,
> Piotr
>
>
>
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> Nabble.com.
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hmmm … so it seems someone on the Board must have misunderstood my question.
The officially announced the Flex Summit, so I guess I will start working on the details.
Chris
Am 25.01.17, 15:39 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Ok … indeed that would be quite a huge commitment. But I guess it’s not worth much, if we plan a big event and all we have are 10 real attendants :-(
It’s a lot of work preparing such a thing, so there should be a certain amount of people attending to make it worth the time and work. Let’s see if a few more people confirm interest in a FlexJS summit.
Chris
Am 24.01.17, 22:38 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Hi Karl,
WOW from Poland!
Thank you,
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Ok … indeed that would be quite a huge commitment. But I guess it’s not worth much, if we plan a big event and all we have are 10 real attendants :-(
It’s a lot of work preparing such a thing, so there should be a certain amount of people attending to make it worth the time and work. Let’s see if a few more people confirm interest in a FlexJS summit.
Chris
Am 24.01.17, 22:38 schrieb "piotrz" <pi...@gmail.com>:
Hi Karl,
WOW from Poland!
Thank you,
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Karl,
WOW from Poland!
Thank you,
Piotr
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Re: [DISCUSS] Have a Flex project summit at ApacheCon NA 2017?
Posted by Karl KTA <ka...@kingtideapps.com>.
Hello Chris and All,
Stick with the message it's about ApacheCon.
I am a designer not a coder, a massive believer in FlexJS.
My team has passionately put everything over the past years into developing
our core APP Platform with Flex, all with little support and we love it.
While this project is now much too complicated to convert to FlexJS, at
least for now, we are looking to build our web dashboard with FlexJS and I
will reach out to the group soon to see if these is someone available to get
us up a using the MDL components quickly.
With ApacheCon, I'm a +2 (up to +25). today I will pitch to my team that we
(Platform soon to be named) will sponsor the shortfall of the 30 seat
minimum if you guys are sure thats enough to secure the Signs!, thats
exactly what this is about, the Signs. Putting a big huge light on FlexJS,
and a commitment behind you lot for making this happen.
Even with the commitment of 5 people to attend, that's a beginning worth
supporting AND ITS STILL EARLY, It's January and we have until May to
encourage more participation.
After 3.5 years our Platform is finally making revenue and in the last
couple of years we have gone from questioning the declining support for our
preferred development tools to seeing an explosion and enthusiasm that is
worthy of everyone's support.
Chris, this is what I can offer and I hope this is enough for your team to
get behind to begin organising.
We don't want an empty room. We want a full one. What we want is the problem
of having LF supporting us with sandwiches PLUS searching for a bigger room.
That won't happen at all if we're not there.
You have done he hard yards and FlexJS has enough maturity for the broader
developer community to engage with it.
Imaging what could come from us all siting in a room together.
Cheers
Karl Falzon
Design Director and CEO
King Tide Apps Pty Ltd, Adelaide, Australia.
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