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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com> on 2014/11/15 02:13:09 UTC
Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2 standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it. So when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM with the "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason the machine is even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to be an IDE drive, specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the same machine are set as SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So it seems the mismatch is between the controller type CS is using and the disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller. Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a way around this?
RE: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
Posted by Sateesh Chodapuneedi <sa...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sateesh Chodapuneedi [mailto:sateesh.chodapuneedi@citrix.com]
> Sent: 15 November 2014 14:06
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Michael Phillips
> Subject: RE: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> > further clarification; CS adds the data disk to the VM but since it's listed as SCSI device 0:0, the vm is unable to find it when you
> do a disk rescan.
> Yes, due to absence of LSI Logic Parallel driver in the guest, the virtual disk goes undetected.
>
> Currently for all data volumes, of user instance deployed by CloudStack, are attached to LSI Logic Parallel controller. And this is not
> configurable, which is be a blocker for most recent versions of Windows OS like Windows 2012 R2 and Windows 8.1 which does not
> ship/pack LSI Logic Parallel driver by default, which means all virtual disks attached to this controller would not detected.
>
> Support for choice of controllers is in progress and expected to be available in CloudStack 4.6 release.
> I am going to talk about proposal to address this and implementation details in CloudStack Collaboration Conference scheduled
> next week at Budapest, Hungary.
>
> Link to the entry in conference schedule is [1] and JIRA ticket for this feature is [2]
>
> [1] http://ccceu2014.sched.org/event/5d24aad67443542c72b5fc51c25c090b?iframe=yes&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-4787
Hi,
I am working on implementation of this feature based on functional specification [2] and followed by proposal thread [1] below.
All changes are being tracked using JIRA ticket [3] using ACS branch 'vmware-disk-controllers'
[1] http://markmail.org/thread/en4skoqu4mbitacs
[2] Short link for functional specification document - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/vI5cAg
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-4787
Regards,
Sateesh
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbolous@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 15 November 2014 12:01
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
> >
> > There's an issue in jira to allow controller selection, but it has been stale for some time.
> >
> > This is one of the reasons we switched to xenserver.
> >
> > I believe there's a quick talk on ccceu about the issue.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > Den lørdag 15. november 2014 skrev Michael Phillips
> > <mp...@hotmail.com>
> > følgende:
> >
> > > So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2
> > > standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it.
> > > So when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM
> > > with the "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason
> > > the machine is even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to
> > > be an IDE drive, specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the
> > > same machine are set as SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it
> > > would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So it seems the mismatch is between the
> > > controller type CS is using and the disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
> > > For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller.
> > > Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a
> > > way around this?
> > >
> > >
RE: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
Posted by Sateesh Chodapuneedi <sa...@citrix.com>.
Hi Michael,
> further clarification; CS adds the data disk to the VM but since it's listed as SCSI device 0:0, the vm is unable to find it when you do a disk rescan.
Yes, due to absence of LSI Logic Parallel driver in the guest, the virtual disk goes undetected.
Currently for all data volumes, of user instance deployed by CloudStack, are attached to LSI Logic Parallel controller. And this is not configurable, which is be a blocker for most recent versions of Windows OS like Windows 2012 R2 and Windows 8.1 which does not ship/pack LSI Logic Parallel driver by default, which means all virtual disks attached to this controller would not detected.
Support for choice of controllers is in progress and expected to be available in CloudStack 4.6 release.
I am going to talk about proposal to address this and implementation details in CloudStack Collaboration Conference scheduled next week at Budapest, Hungary.
Link to the entry in conference schedule is [1] and JIRA ticket for this feature is [2]
[1] http://ccceu2014.sched.org/event/5d24aad67443542c72b5fc51c25c090b?iframe=yes&w=&sidebar=yes&bg=no
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-4787
Regards,
Sateesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbolous@gmail.com]
> Sent: 15 November 2014 12:01
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
>
> There's an issue in jira to allow controller selection, but it has been stale for some time.
>
> This is one of the reasons we switched to xenserver.
>
> I believe there's a quick talk on ccceu about the issue.
>
> Erik
>
> Den lørdag 15. november 2014 skrev Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>
> følgende:
>
> > So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2
> > standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it.
> > So when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM
> > with the "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason
> > the machine is even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to
> > be an IDE drive, specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the
> > same machine are set as SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it
> > would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So it seems the mismatch is between the
> > controller type CS is using and the disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
> > For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller.
> > Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a
> > way around this?
> >
> >
RE: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
Posted by Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>.
OK, so I 100% confirmed that the issue is with the controller type being used by cloudstack. Microsoft removed the drivers for the LSILogicParallel controller from server 2012 R2. As mentioned earlier the only reason the server even boots is because cloudstack is adding the boot drive as an IDE device. Personally I think that's bad practice as well. So I got this to work by downloading the drivers from LSI's website then installing them in the server. Once I did that it found the controller, and I was able to use the data disk. Although I got this to work, I would be hesitant in using this in production for the following reasons. 1-Microsoft removed the driver, so this is an unsupported config. 2-The only driver LSI has for this device is for 2008x64, and it just so happens to work, so once again it's an unsupported config. 3-I have read a few articles online stating that this controller does not perform as well as the newer LSILogicSAS version. Take a look at the following screenshots for further detail https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxc1vneg787stn4/1-Controller%20Type.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2lujnol6am7tg7/2-No%20Driver.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5c5jg61jz43w5sq/3-Driver%20Added.PNG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ypfdkvvwv7f9ex4/4-Disk%20Found.PNG?dl=0The first screen shot simply shows that CS added the controller type as a LSI Logic Parallel. The 2nd screen shot shows that server 2012 R2 does not have the drivers by default. The 3rd screen shot shows the controller after I installed the driver. The 4th screen shot show that the system found the drive after the drivers were installed.
As far as I am concerned this controller selection bug with server 2012 r2 is a major issue, which renders this OS unusable in a production environment for the reasons I listed above. How can we get the heat turned up on this to get this corrected? It sounds like there is already a JIRA ticket opened, does anyone know the ticket number?
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 07:31:10 +0100
> Subject: Re: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
> From: terbolous@gmail.com
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>
> There's an issue in jira to allow controller selection, but it has been
> stale for some time.
>
> This is one of the reasons we switched to xenserver.
>
> I believe there's a quick talk on ccceu about the issue.
>
> Erik
>
> Den lørdag 15. november 2014 skrev Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>
> følgende:
>
> > So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2
> > standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it. So
> > when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM with the
> > "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason the machine is
> > even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to be an IDE drive,
> > specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the same machine are set as
> > SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So
> > it seems the mismatch is between the controller type CS is using and the
> > disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
> > For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller.
> > Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a way
> > around this?
> >
> >
Re: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
Posted by Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>.
There's an issue in jira to allow controller selection, but it has been
stale for some time.
This is one of the reasons we switched to xenserver.
I believe there's a quick talk on ccceu about the issue.
Erik
Den lørdag 15. november 2014 skrev Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>
følgende:
> So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2
> standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it. So
> when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM with the
> "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason the machine is
> even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to be an IDE drive,
> specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the same machine are set as
> SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So
> it seems the mismatch is between the controller type CS is using and the
> disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
> For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller.
> Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a way
> around this?
>
>
RE: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
Posted by Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>.
further clarification; CS adds the data disk to the VM but since it's listed as SCSI device 0:0, the vm is unable to find it when you do a disk rescan.
I hope this makes sense...
> From: mphilli7823@hotmail.com
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Server 2012 R2 Bug on CS 4.4.0 with vmware hypervisor
> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:13:09 -0600
>
> So I was unable to add a data disk to my vm running server 2012 R2 standard, so I started tracking down the issue and I think I found it. So when provisioning a vm running server 2012 R2, CS creates the VM with the "LSI Logic Parallel" adapter. It looks like the only reason the machine is even able to boot is becuase the ROOT drive is set to be an IDE drive, specifically (IDE 0:1). Any data disks added to the same machine are set as SCSI drives. So if I added one data disk it would be listed as SCSI 0:0. So it seems the mismatch is between the controller type CS is using and the disk type. So this bring me to the major question at hand.
> For server 2012 R2 vmware natively uses the "LSI Logic SAS" controller. Why in the world is CS not using the same controller, and is there a way around this?
>
>