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setup for web designers?
How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work on the
static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff without
stepping on each other's toes?
In my case the web designers have already been working with apache with
their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but after some
minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't work;
for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include
virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to the
browser.
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Re: setup for web designers?
Posted by Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>.
I have never tested the two configurations, so your information is very
helpful. I was just going on what the tomcat docs say.
Mark
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 10:03 am, JT Neville wrote:
> >>From what I have read, you get better performance if you let
> >>tomcat serve the static stuff as well as the jsps
>
> I've been running Tomcat for three years now, and I have to disagree. In
> my experience, Tomcat isn't as robust at serving the static content as
> other old school webserver daemons. We did/do significant testing and saw
> drop-offs at different plateaus when scaling to Enterprise level
> user/transactions.
>
> I can't speak for the latest releases, as they are still in
> development/testing here for us (we migrate slowly) so your mileage may
> vary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Phillips [mailto:mark@phillipsmarketing.biz]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:47 AM
> To: Tomcat List
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
>
> Rusty,
>
> From what I have read, you get better performance if you let tomcat serve
> the
> static stuff as well as the jsps. Check the tomcat docs for a discussion of
> this topic.
>
> However, if you still want to put tomcat behind apache, take a look at this
> article - tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.1-doc/ssi-howto.html (the link is down
> now - try it in a while) or google "tomcat ssi". The gist of the article is
> that you need to download a jar file, add it to your classpath, and then
> tomcat will serve ssi directives correctly.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday 12 December 2005 11:26 pm, rusty@grunt.berkeley.edu wrote:
> > I'm talking about having tomcat behind apache, with apache serving
> > static content and tomcat serving generated html (or whatever)
> > content. Your jsp include suggestion would only work for static
> > content in the tomcat dir.
> >
> > See below after your included message my response to Martin, which may
> > help explain what I'm talking about.
> >
> > From: Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>
> > Organization: Phillips Marketing, Inc.
> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:20:44 -0700
> > Cc: rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu,
> > "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >
> > Try using <%@ include file="header.html" %> instead.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Monday 12 December 2005 06:29 pm, rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu
>
> wrote:
> > > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work
> > > on the static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff
> > > without stepping on each other's toes?
> > >
> > > In my case the web designers have already been working with apache
> > > with their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
> > >
> > > My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but
> > > after some minimal testing I discovered that apache server side
> > > includes don't work; for example, if the html from my jsp has
> > > <!--#include virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and
> > > is sent to the browser.
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For
> > > additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org
> >
> > --
> > Mark Phillips
> > Phillips Marketing, Inc
> > mark@phillipsmarketing.biz
> > 602 524-0376
> > 480 945-9197 fax
> >
> >
> > Date: 12 Dec 2005 22:17:29 -0800
> > From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> > To: mgainty@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> >
> > I did look at that but that's just for apache. If you think about it,
> > the two directives
> >
> > AddType text/html .shtml
> > AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> >
> > tell apache to look at the extensions of the files, on disk. What I'm
> > talking about is html data that's coming to apache directly over the
> > ajp13 socket, from tomcat, in which case there's no file extension.
> > When you run tomcat connected to apache with mod_jk you're running
> > tomcat behind apache. The output from tomcat is piped through apache
> > and then sent to the browser. Going the other way, the requests from
> > the browser go through apache and are sent to tomcat.
> >
> > I need some way to turn on the "AddHandler server-parsed" for
> > everything coming in to apache from tomcat over the ajp13 mod_jk
> > socket. Or some way to make it think that everything coming from
> > tomcat is an .shtml file.
> >
> > From: "Martin Gainty" <mg...@hotmail.com>
> > To: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> > Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:47:18 -0500
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> > Rusty
> > Take a look at =
> >
> > http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourservertope
> >= rmitssi
> >
> >
> > Configuring your server to permit SSI
> > To permit SSI on your server, you must have mod_include installed and
>
> =
>
> > enabled. Additionally, you must have the following directive either
> > in = your httpd.conf file, or in a .htaccess file:
> >
> > Options +Includes
> > This tells Apache that you want to permit files to be parsed for SSI
> > = directives. Note that most configurations contain multiple Options =
> > directives that can override each other. You will probably need to apply
> > = the Options to the specific directory where you want SSI enabled
>
> in
>
> > = order to assure that it gets evaluated last.
> >
> > Not just any file is parsed for SSI directives. You have to tell
>
> Apache
>
> > = which files should be parsed. There are two ways to do this. You can =
> > tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file extension, such as =
> > shtml, with the following directives:
> >
> > AddType text/html .shtml
> > AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> > HTH,Martin
> >
> > ------ Original Message -----=20
> > From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> > To: "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> > Subject: setup for web designers?
> >
> > > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can
> > > work =
> >
> > on the=20
> >
> > > static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff
> > > without=20 stepping on each other's toes?
> > >=20
> > > In my case the web designers have already been working with apache
> > > =
> >
> > with=20
> >
> > > their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
> > >=20
> > > My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but
>
> after
>
> > > =
> >
> > some=20
> >
> > > minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't
>
> =
>
> > work;=20
> >
> > > for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include=20
> > > virtual=3D"/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to
>
> =
>
> > the=20
> >
> > > browser.=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
>
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> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD>
> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > <STYLE></STYLE>
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rusty<BR>Take a look at </FONT><A=20
> >
> > href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourse
> >= rvertopermitssiH"><FONT=20
> > face=3DArial=20
> >
> > size=3D2>http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyours
> >= ervertopermitssi<BR><BR></FONT></A>
> > <H2><A id=3Dconfiguringyourservertopermitssi=20
> > name=3Dconfiguringyourservertopermitssi><FONT face=3DArial =
> > size=3D2>Configuring your=20
> > server to permit SSI</FONT></A></H2>
> > <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To permit SSI on your server, you must
>
> =
>
> > have </FONT><A=20
> > href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_include.html"><FONT
> > = face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>mod_include</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> installed
>
> =
>
> > and enabled.=20
> > Additionally, you must have the following directive either in your =
> > httpd.conf=20
> > file, or in a .htaccess file:</FONT></P><PRE><FONT face=3DArial =
> > size=3D2> Options +Includes
> > </FONT></PRE>
> > <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This tells Apache that you want to
> > permit = files to be=20
> > parsed for SSI directives. Note that most configurations contain =
> > multiple=20
> > </FONT><A =
> >
> > href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#options"><FONT=20
> > face=3DArial size=3D2>Options</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
> > directives that can=20
> > override each other. You will probably need to apply the Options to
>
> the
>
> > = specific=20
> > directory where you want SSI enabled in order to assure that it gets
> > = evaluated=20
> > last.</FONT></P>
> > <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not just any file is parsed for SSI =
> > directives. You=20
> > have to tell Apache which files should be parsed. There are two ways
>
> to
>
> > = do this.=20
> > You can tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file
>
> extension,
>
> > = such as=20
> > shtml, with the following directives:</FONT></P><PRE><FONT
>
> face=3DArial
>
> > = size=3D2> AddType text/html .shtml
> > AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> > <BR>HTH,<BR>Martin-</FONT></PRE></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: <</FONT><A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu</FONT></A><FONT
> > face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: "</FONT><A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:users@tomcat.apache.o"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>users@tomcat.apache.o</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial
> > size=3D2>" = <</FONT><A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:users@tomcat.apache.org"><FONT face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>users@tomcat.apache.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005
> > 8:29=20 PM</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: setup for web=20
> > designers?</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
> > = face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>> How do people set up their tomcat so that the web =
> > designers can work=20
> > on the <BR>> static content and the programmers can work on the
> > jsp = stuff=20
> > without <BR>> stepping on each other's toes?<BR>> <BR>> In
> > my = case the=20
> > web designers have already been working with apache with <BR>>
>
> their
>
> > = files in=20
> > /usr/local/apache/htdocs.<BR>> <BR>> My first thought is to put
>
> =
>
> > tomcat=20
> > behind apache with mod_jk but after some <BR>> minimal testing I =
> > discovered=20
> > that apache server side includes don't work; <BR>> for example, if
>
> =
>
> > the html=20
> > from my jsp has <!--#include <BR>>
>
> virtual=3D"/header.html"-->
>
> > = that line=20
> > isn't replaced and is sent to the <BR>> browser. <BR>> <BR>>
>
> =
>
> > <BR>>=20
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
> >= > To=20
> > unsubscribe, e-mail: </FONT><A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org"><FONT
> > face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
> > face=3DArial=20
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> > face=3DArial = size=3D2>>=20
> > <BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML>
> >
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602 524-0376
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RE: setup for web designers?
Posted by JT Neville <jt...@spaceghost.net>.
>>>From what I have read, you get better performance if you let
>>tomcat serve the static stuff as well as the jsps
I've been running Tomcat for three years now, and I have to disagree. In my
experience, Tomcat isn't as robust at serving the static content as other
old school webserver daemons. We did/do significant testing and saw
drop-offs at different plateaus when scaling to Enterprise level
user/transactions.
I can't speak for the latest releases, as they are still in
development/testing here for us (we migrate slowly) so your mileage may
vary.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Phillips [mailto:mark@phillipsmarketing.biz]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:47 AM
To: Tomcat List
Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
Rusty,
>From what I have read, you get better performance if you let tomcat serve
the
static stuff as well as the jsps. Check the tomcat docs for a discussion of
this topic.
However, if you still want to put tomcat behind apache, take a look at this
article - tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.1-doc/ssi-howto.html (the link is down
now - try it in a while) or google "tomcat ssi". The gist of the article is
that you need to download a jar file, add it to your classpath, and then
tomcat will serve ssi directives correctly.
Mark
On Monday 12 December 2005 11:26 pm, rusty@grunt.berkeley.edu wrote:
> I'm talking about having tomcat behind apache, with apache serving
> static content and tomcat serving generated html (or whatever)
> content. Your jsp include suggestion would only work for static
> content in the tomcat dir.
>
> See below after your included message my response to Martin, which may
> help explain what I'm talking about.
>
> From: Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>
> Organization: Phillips Marketing, Inc.
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:20:44 -0700
> Cc: rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu,
> "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>
> Try using <%@ include file="header.html" %> instead.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday 12 December 2005 06:29 pm, rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu
wrote:
> > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work
> > on the static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff
> > without stepping on each other's toes?
> >
> > In my case the web designers have already been working with apache
> > with their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
> >
> > My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but after
> > some minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes
> > don't work; for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include
> > virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to the
> > browser.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org
>
> --
> Mark Phillips
> Phillips Marketing, Inc
> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz
> 602 524-0376
> 480 945-9197 fax
>
>
> Date: 12 Dec 2005 22:17:29 -0800
> From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> To: mgainty@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
>
> I did look at that but that's just for apache. If you think about it,
> the two directives
>
> AddType text/html .shtml
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
>
> tell apache to look at the extensions of the files, on disk. What I'm
> talking about is html data that's coming to apache directly over the
> ajp13 socket, from tomcat, in which case there's no file extension.
> When you run tomcat connected to apache with mod_jk you're running
> tomcat behind apache. The output from tomcat is piped through apache
> and then sent to the browser. Going the other way, the requests from
> the browser go through apache and are sent to tomcat.
>
> I need some way to turn on the "AddHandler server-parsed" for
> everything coming in to apache from tomcat over the ajp13 mod_jk
> socket. Or some way to make it think that everything coming from
> tomcat is an .shtml file.
>
> From: "Martin Gainty" <mg...@hotmail.com>
> To: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:47:18 -0500
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C5FF65.9FD7D8B0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Rusty
> Take a look at =
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourservertope=
> rmitssi
>
>
> Configuring your server to permit SSI
> To permit SSI on your server, you must have mod_include installed and
=
> enabled. Additionally, you must have the following directive either in
> = your httpd.conf file, or in a .htaccess file:
>
> Options +Includes
> This tells Apache that you want to permit files to be parsed for SSI =
> directives. Note that most configurations contain multiple Options =
> directives that can override each other. You will probably need to
> apply = the Options to the specific directory where you want SSI enabled
in
> = order to assure that it gets evaluated last.
>
> Not just any file is parsed for SSI directives. You have to tell
Apache
> = which files should be parsed. There are two ways to do this. You can =
> tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file extension, such as =
> shtml, with the following directives:
>
> AddType text/html .shtml
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> HTH,Martin
>
> ------ Original Message -----=20
> From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> To: "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> Subject: setup for web designers?
>
> > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work
> > =
>
> on the=20
>
> > static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff
> > without=20 stepping on each other's toes?
> >=20
> > In my case the web designers have already been working with apache =
>
> with=20
>
> > their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
> >=20
> > My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but
after
> > =
>
> some=20
>
> > minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't
=
>
> work;=20
>
> > for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include=20
> > virtual=3D"/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to
=
>
> the=20
>
> > browser.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rusty<BR>Take a look at </FONT><A=20
>
> href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourse=
> rvertopermitssiH"><FONT=20
> face=3DArial=20
>
> size=3D2>http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyours=
> ervertopermitssi<BR><BR></FONT></A>
> <H2><A id=3Dconfiguringyourservertopermitssi=20
> name=3Dconfiguringyourservertopermitssi><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2>Configuring your=20
> server to permit SSI</FONT></A></H2>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To permit SSI on your server, you must
=
> have </FONT><A=20
> href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_include.html"><FONT =
> face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>mod_include</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> installed
=
> and enabled.=20
> Additionally, you must have the following directive either in your =
> httpd.conf=20
> file, or in a .htaccess file:</FONT></P><PRE><FONT face=3DArial =
> size=3D2> Options +Includes
> </FONT></PRE>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This tells Apache that you want to
> permit = files to be=20
> parsed for SSI directives. Note that most configurations contain =
> multiple=20
> </FONT><A =
>
> href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#options"><FONT=20
> face=3DArial size=3D2>Options</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
> directives that can=20
> override each other. You will probably need to apply the Options to
the
> = specific=20
> directory where you want SSI enabled in order to assure that it gets =
> evaluated=20
> last.</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not just any file is parsed for SSI =
> directives. You=20
> have to tell Apache which files should be parsed. There are two ways
to
> = do this.=20
> You can tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file
extension,
> = such as=20
> shtml, with the following directives:</FONT></P><PRE><FONT
face=3DArial
> = size=3D2> AddType text/html .shtml
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> <BR>HTH,<BR>Martin-</FONT></PRE></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: <</FONT><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu"><FONT face=3DArial=20
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Re: setup for web designers?
Posted by Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>.
Rusty,
From what I have read, you get better performance if you let tomcat serve the
static stuff as well as the jsps. Check the tomcat docs for a discussion of
this topic.
However, if you still want to put tomcat behind apache, take a look at this
article - tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-4.1-doc/ssi-howto.html (the link is down
now - try it in a while) or google "tomcat ssi". The gist of the article is
that you need to download a jar file, add it to your classpath, and then
tomcat will serve ssi directives correctly.
Mark
On Monday 12 December 2005 11:26 pm, rusty@grunt.berkeley.edu wrote:
> I'm talking about having tomcat behind apache, with apache serving
> static content and tomcat serving generated html (or whatever)
> content. Your jsp include suggestion would only work for static
> content in the tomcat dir.
>
> See below after your included message my response to Martin, which may
> help explain what I'm talking about.
>
> From: Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>
> Organization: Phillips Marketing, Inc.
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:20:44 -0700
> Cc: rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu,
> "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
>
> Try using <%@ include file="header.html" %> instead.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday 12 December 2005 06:29 pm, rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu
wrote:
> > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work
> > on the static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff
> > without stepping on each other's toes?
> >
> > In my case the web designers have already been working with apache
> > with their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
> >
> > My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but after
> > some minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes
> > don't work; for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include
> > virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to the
> > browser.
> >
> >
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>
> Date: 12 Dec 2005 22:17:29 -0800
> From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> To: mgainty@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
>
> I did look at that but that's just for apache. If you think about it,
> the two directives
>
> AddType text/html .shtml
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
>
> tell apache to look at the extensions of the files, on disk. What I'm
> talking about is html data that's coming to apache directly over the
> ajp13 socket, from tomcat, in which case there's no file extension.
> When you run tomcat connected to apache with mod_jk you're running
> tomcat behind apache. The output from tomcat is piped through apache
> and then sent to the browser. Going the other way, the requests from
> the browser go through apache and are sent to tomcat.
>
> I need some way to turn on the "AddHandler server-parsed" for
> everything coming in to apache from tomcat over the ajp13 mod_jk
> socket. Or some way to make it think that everything coming from
> tomcat is an .shtml file.
>
> From: "Martin Gainty" <mg...@hotmail.com>
> To: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: setup for web designers?
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:47:18 -0500
>
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> Rusty
> Take a look at =
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourservertope=
> rmitssi
>
>
> Configuring your server to permit SSI
> To permit SSI on your server, you must have mod_include installed and =
> enabled. Additionally, you must have the following directive either in
> = your httpd.conf file, or in a .htaccess file:
>
> Options +Includes
> This tells Apache that you want to permit files to be parsed for SSI =
> directives. Note that most configurations contain multiple Options =
> directives that can override each other. You will probably need to
> apply = the Options to the specific directory where you want SSI enabled in
> = order to assure that it gets evaluated last.
>
> Not just any file is parsed for SSI directives. You have to tell Apache
> = which files should be parsed. There are two ways to do this. You can =
> tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file extension, such as =
> shtml, with the following directives:
>
> AddType text/html .shtml
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
> HTH,Martin
>
> ------ Original Message -----=20
> From: <ru...@grunt.berkeley.edu>
> To: "users@tomcat.apache.o" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> Subject: setup for web designers?
>
> > How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work
> > =
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> on the=20
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> > without=20 stepping on each other's toes?
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> > their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
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> some=20
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> > minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't =
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> have </FONT><A=20
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> size=3D2>mod_include</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> installed =
> and enabled.=20
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> permit = files to be=20
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> evaluated=20
> last.</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not just any file is parsed for SSI =
> directives. You=20
> have to tell Apache which files should be parsed. There are two ways to
> = do this.=20
> You can tell Apache to parse any file with a particular file extension,
> = such as=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
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> = stuff=20
> without <BR>> stepping on each other's toes?<BR>> <BR>> In my
> = case the=20
> web designers have already been working with apache with <BR>> their
> = files in=20
> /usr/local/apache/htdocs.<BR>> <BR>> My first thought is to put =
> tomcat=20
> behind apache with mod_jk but after some <BR>> minimal testing I =
> discovered=20
> that apache server side includes don't work; <BR>> for example, if =
> the html=20
> from my jsp has <!--#include <BR>> virtual=3D"/header.html"-->
> = that line=20
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Re: setup for web designers?
Posted by Mark Phillips <ma...@phillipsmarketing.biz>.
Try using <%@ include file="header.html" %> instead.
Mark
On Monday 12 December 2005 06:29 pm, rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu wrote:
> How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work on the
> static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff without
> stepping on each other's toes?
>
> In my case the web designers have already been working with apache with
> their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
>
> My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but after some
> minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't work;
> for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include
> virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to the
> browser.
>
>
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Re: setup for web designers?
Posted by Hassan Schroeder <ha...@webtuitive.com>.
rusty+tomcat@grunt.berkeley.edu wrote:
> How do people set up their tomcat so that the web designers can work on
> the static content and the programmers can work on the jsp stuff without
> stepping on each other's toes?
>
> In my case the web designers have already been working with apache with
> their files in /usr/local/apache/htdocs.
>
> My first thought is to put tomcat behind apache with mod_jk but after
> some minimal testing I discovered that apache server side includes don't
> work; for example, if the html from my jsp has <!--#include
> virtual="/header.html"--> that line isn't replaced and is sent to the
> browser.
Either Read The Fine Manual :-)
<http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/ssi-howto.html>
:: to enable SSI in Tomcat, or use a JSP (or JSTL) include.
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