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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> on 2011/09/03 17:01:06 UTC
[PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Dear all,
I would like to propose Anything To Triples (shortly Any23) to be an Apache
Incubator project.
Any23 is a library written in Java providing a set of extractors for
scraping semantic markup
(such as Microformats, RDFa and Microdata) from several sources (HTML4,
XHTML5, CSV)
and a set of parsers and writers to handle the main RDF transport formats
(RDFXML, Ntriples, NQuads, Turtle).
Here's a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
As you will note, the list of mentors is in need of some volunteers,
so if you find this interesting, feel free to sign up. Needless to
say, the same of course goes for committers.
Thanks,
Davide
--
Davide Palmisano
http://davidepalmisano.com
http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Thanks to you Chris,
I'm going to add you in the mentors list :)
Have a nice day and thanks for your kindness!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Hi Simone,
>
> Thanks. I'm available as a mentor for sure. I'm CC'ing The Tika community
> here to gauge their interest.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
>> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
>> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
>> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
>> match.
>> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
>> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
>> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
>> sub(module|project).
>> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
>>
>> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
>> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
>>
>> What do you think about it?
>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> +1 Mohammad.
>>>
>>> I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika project.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>>>>
>>>> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
>>>> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>>>>
>>>> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
>>>> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
>>>> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
>>>> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
>>>> extent.
>>>>
>>>> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
>>>> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
>>>> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
>>>> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
>>>> is the way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck in either case :).
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Nick,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for your question and interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>>>>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>>>>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
>>>>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>>>>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
>>>>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>>>>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>>>>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>>>>> new features requests.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Davide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Davide Palmisano
>>>>>
>>>>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks
>>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>>> ----
>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Simone,
Thanks. I'm available as a mentor for sure. I'm CC'ing The Tika community
here to gauge their interest.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
> match.
> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
> sub(module|project).
> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
>
> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
>
> What do you think about it?
> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> +1 Mohammad.
>>
>> I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika project.
>>
>> I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>>>
>>> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
>>> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>>>
>>> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
>>> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
>>> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
>>> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
>>> extent.
>>>
>>> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
>>> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
>>> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
>>> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
>>> is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Good luck in either case :).
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear Nick,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your question and interest.
>>>>
>>>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>>>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>>>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
>>>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>>>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
>>>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>>>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>>>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>>>> new features requests.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Davide Palmisano
>>>>
>>>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>>>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>> ----
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
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Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Simone,
Thanks. I'm available as a mentor for sure. I'm CC'ing The Tika community
here to gauge their interest.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Chris
On Sep 4, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
> match.
> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
> sub(module|project).
> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
>
> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
>
> What do you think about it?
> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> +1 Mohammad.
>>
>> I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika project.
>>
>> I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>>>
>>> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
>>> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>>>
>>> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
>>> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
>>> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
>>> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
>>> extent.
>>>
>>> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
>>> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
>>> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
>>> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
>>> is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Good luck in either case :).
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear Nick,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your question and interest.
>>>>
>>>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>>>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>>>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
>>>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>>>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
>>>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>>>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>>>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>>>> new features requests.
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Davide Palmisano
>>>>
>>>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>>>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> - Mohammad Nour
>>> ----
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>>> - Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Michele Mostarda <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 4 September 2011 23:20, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Michele...
>
> Please take a look at Apache ActiveMQ [1] and it sub-projects and
> you will get how we see the relation between Apache Tika and Any23.
>
> As you will see, the sub-projects build/extend functionality provided
> by ActiveMQ, which IMO the same case here.
>
Well, if a subproject is allowed to be a super-set (in terms of features)
of
its parent project then my doubts disappear.
>
> [1]- http://activemq.apache.org/
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Michele Mostarda
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > On 4 September 2011 18:34, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
> >> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
> >> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
> >> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
> >> match.
> >> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
> >> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
> >> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
> >> sub(module|project).
> >>
> >
> > As Simone underlined, Tika is a core part of Any23, we use it
> > to detect the mime type of the library input to select a list of
> > appropriate extractors.
> >
> > What we do in addition of Tika is data validation and in some
> > cases error correction.
> >
> > I'm not sure that Any23 can become entirely a Tika sub-project,
> > but I'm confident that Any23 can share with Tika all the Extractors
> > related code base.
> >
> >
> >> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
> >>
> >> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
> >> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
> >>
> >> What do you think about it?
> >> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
> >> Simo
> >>
> >
> > The best
> >
> > Mic
> >
> >
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> >> http://www.99soft.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> >> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >> > +1 Mohammad.
> >> >
> >> > I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the
> Tika
> >> project.
> >> >
> >> > I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
> >> >> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
> >> >>
> >> >> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
> >> >> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time
> to
> >> >> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because
> from
> >> >> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
> >> >> extent.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
> >> >> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer.
> If
> >> >> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
> >> >> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
> >> >> is the way to go.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck in either case :).
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <
> dpalmisano@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Dear Nick,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> thanks for your question and interest.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache
> >> projects
> >> >>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the
> communities,
> >> have
> >> >>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache
> >> projects.
> >> >>> Fortunately, we never encountered
> >> >>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this
> is
> >> due
> >> >>> the nature of such underlying projects,
> >> >>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
> >> >>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
> >> >>> new features requests.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cheers,
> >> >>> Davide
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cheers
> >> >>>> Nick
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Davide Palmisano
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://davidepalmisano.com
> >> >>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> - Mohammad Nour
> >> >> ----
> >> >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> >> moving"
> >> >> - Albert Einstein
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> > Senior Computer Scientist
> >> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michele Mostarda
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > mail: me@michelemostarda.com
> > skype: michele.mostarda
> > twitter: micmos
> > fbk : http://wed.fbk.eu/en/people
> > deri: https://dev.deri.ie/confluence/display/~mmostarda
> > site: http://www.michelemostarda.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
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skype: michele.mostarda
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi Michele...
Please take a look at Apache ActiveMQ [1] and it sub-projects and
you will get how we see the relation between Apache Tika and Any23.
As you will see, the sub-projects build/extend functionality provided
by ActiveMQ, which IMO the same case here.
[1]- http://activemq.apache.org/
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Michele Mostarda
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> On 4 September 2011 18:34, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
>> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
>> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
>> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
>> match.
>> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
>> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
>> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
>> sub(module|project).
>>
>
> As Simone underlined, Tika is a core part of Any23, we use it
> to detect the mime type of the library input to select a list of
> appropriate extractors.
>
> What we do in addition of Tika is data validation and in some
> cases error correction.
>
> I'm not sure that Any23 can become entirely a Tika sub-project,
> but I'm confident that Any23 can share with Tika all the Extractors
> related code base.
>
>
>> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
>>
>> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
>> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
>>
>> What do you think about it?
>> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
>> Simo
>>
>
> The best
>
> Mic
>
>
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> > +1 Mohammad.
>> >
>> > I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika
>> project.
>> >
>> > I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>> >>
>> >> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
>> >> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>> >>
>> >> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
>> >> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
>> >> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
>> >> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
>> >> extent.
>> >>
>> >> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
>> >> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
>> >> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
>> >> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
>> >> is the way to go.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck in either case :).
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Dear Nick,
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks for your question and interest.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache
>> projects
>> >>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities,
>> have
>> >>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache
>> projects.
>> >>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>> >>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is
>> due
>> >>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>> >>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>> >>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>> >>> new features requests.
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers,
>> >>> Davide
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>> Nick
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Davide Palmisano
>> >>>
>> >>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>> >>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks
>> >> - Mohammad Nour
>> >> ----
>> >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
>> moving"
>> >> - Albert Einstein
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Michele Mostarda <mi...@gmail.com>.
Dear All,
On 4 September 2011 18:34, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Mohammad and Chris,
> thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
> AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
> architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
> match.
> Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
> through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
> modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
> sub(module|project).
>
As Simone underlined, Tika is a core part of Any23, we use it
to detect the mime type of the library input to select a list of
appropriate extractors.
What we do in addition of Tika is data validation and in some
cases error correction.
I'm not sure that Any23 can become entirely a Tika sub-project,
but I'm confident that Any23 can share with Tika all the Extractors
related code base.
> At the same time, that would be interesting if:
>
> * Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
> * Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
>
> What do you think about it?
> Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
> Simo
>
The best
Mic
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > +1 Mohammad.
> >
> > I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika
> project.
> >
> > I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> > On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >
> >> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
> >>
> >> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
> >> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
> >>
> >> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
> >> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
> >> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
> >> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
> >> extent.
> >>
> >> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
> >> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
> >> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
> >> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
> >> is the way to go.
> >>
> >> Good luck in either case :).
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Dear Nick,
> >>>
> >>> thanks for your question and interest.
> >>>
> >>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache
> projects
> >>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities,
> have
> >>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache
> projects.
> >>> Fortunately, we never encountered
> >>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is
> due
> >>> the nature of such underlying projects,
> >>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
> >>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
> >>> new features requests.
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Davide
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Davide Palmisano
> >>>
> >>> http://davidepalmisano.com
> >>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks
> >> - Mohammad Nour
> >> ----
> >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> >> - Albert Einstein
> >>
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> >
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> > Senior Computer Scientist
> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Mohammad and Chris,
thanks a lot for your interest on the Any23 proposal!!!
AFAIK in the Any23 early days Davide and Michele explored the Tika
architecture since, as you already noticed, there is a potential
match.
Unfortunately at that days Tika didn't match their needs and they go
through their own path, but I'm pretty sure that thanks of its
modularization, Any23 can be implemented as a Tika
sub(module|project).
At the same time, that would be interesting if:
* Chris is available to be added in the mentor list;
* Tika community would be available on being the Any23 sponsor.
What do you think about it?
Many thanks in advance, have a nice weekend!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> +1 Mohammad.
>
> I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika project.
>
> I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>
>> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>>
>> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
>> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>>
>> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
>> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
>> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
>> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
>> extent.
>>
>> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
>> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
>> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
>> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
>> is the way to go.
>>
>> Good luck in either case :).
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Nick,
>>>
>>> thanks for your question and interest.
>>>
>>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
>>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
>>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>>> new features requests.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Davide
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Nick
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Davide Palmisano
>>>
>>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
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>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
+1 Mohammad.
I'd be very interested in having Any23 potentially graduate into the Tika project.
I'd be happy to mentor this effort.
Cheers,
Chris
On Sep 4, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> +1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
>
> I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
> related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
>
> But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
> mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
> graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
> what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
> extent.
>
> The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
> write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
> that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
> touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
> is the way to go.
>
> Good luck in either case :).
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Nick,
>>
>> thanks for your question and interest.
>>
>> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>>
>>
>> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
>> Fortunately, we never encountered
>> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
>> the nature of such underlying projects,
>> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
>> "standard" use we make of them never justified
>> new features requests.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Davide
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Nick
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Davide Palmisano
>>
>> http://davidepalmisano.com
>> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
+1 on the proposal in general, notes below.
I like the idea very much, cause I am also interested in Semantic Web
related technologies, although didn't work with/on much of it so far.
But allow me to say that I see it very fitting with Apache Tika, I
mean even if you went through the Incubator I see , when it is time to
graduate, that this code should be a sub-project of Tika, because from
what I read about Tika they are both aligned together to a great
extent.
The only issue here is that you would have to start by not having
write access to that code, till you have been voted as a committer. If
that is not an issue with you, then I would propose that you get in
touch with Apache Tika team, if not then going through the Incubator
is the way to go.
Good luck in either case :).
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Nick,
>
> thanks for your question and interest.
>
> Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
>> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
>> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>>
>
> We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
> Fortunately, we never encountered
> any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
> the nature of such underlying projects,
> which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
> "standard" use we make of them never justified
> new features requests.
>
> cheers,
> Davide
>
>
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Nick
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Davide Palmisano
>
> http://davidepalmisano.com
> http://twitter.com/dpalmisano
>
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- Mohammad Nour
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com>.
Dear Nick,
thanks for your question and interest.
Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
> that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
> you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
>
We had very limited issues or problems with the underlying Apache projects.
Fortunately, we never encountered
any blocking issues deserving a bug report or a patch. Probably this is due
the nature of such underlying projects,
which are, mostly, mature and consolidated software. Moreover, the
"standard" use we make of them never justified
new features requests.
cheers,
Davide
>
> Cheers
> Nick
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>.
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Davide Palmisano wrote:
> Here's a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects
that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have
you submitted bug reports or patches etc?
As not all of the developers on the initial committers list are current
committers, information on how well Any23 has played with other Apache
projects could help with the proposal. Additionally, evidence of pushing
appropriate code, patches, bug fixes etc upstream could help reassure
people that the project would avoid duplicating code, and could instead
work well with the other related projects and podlings
Cheers
Nick
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmür <me...@farewellutopia.com>.
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Michele Mostarda
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 September 2011 08:51, Reto Bachmann-Gmür <re...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Paolo Castagna
>> <ca...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > first of all, it's good to see Any23 try to come into the Apache
>> incubator.
>> >
>> > Michele Mostarda wrote:
>> >> Hi Nick,
>> >>
>> >> On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
>> >>> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
>> >>> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
>> >>> an interest.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> We hope so!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
>> >>> Redland & family?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to
>> Jena.
>> >
>> > Could you expand on the reasons which made you choose Sesame for Any23?
>> > In particular, what's missing in Jena which is needed by Any23 or what
>> > you don't like? (It might get fixed. ;-))
>>
>> Using the Clerezza API would be an option too. The API is more modular
>> than the Jena or the Sesame one and can be backed either by a Jena or
>> a Sesame triplestore.
>>
>
> I really like the idea of using the Clerezza API as an abstraction level
> over Jena and Sesame
> to support both and any further ones. Trying to understand how much
> complexity this can add.
Adding rdf2go support as a frontend adapter on top of the clerezza api
could help integrating aperture (http://aperture.sourceforge.net/)
components as well.
Reto
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Michele Mostarda <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 5 September 2011 08:51, Reto Bachmann-Gmür <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Paolo Castagna
> <ca...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > first of all, it's good to see Any23 try to come into the Apache
> incubator.
> >
> > Michele Mostarda wrote:
> >> Hi Nick,
> >>
> >> On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
> >>> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
> >>> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
> >>> an interest.
> >>>
> >>
> >> We hope so!
> >>
> >>
> >>> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
> >>> Redland & family?
> >>
> >>
> >> Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to
> Jena.
> >
> > Could you expand on the reasons which made you choose Sesame for Any23?
> > In particular, what's missing in Jena which is needed by Any23 or what
> > you don't like? (It might get fixed. ;-))
>
> Using the Clerezza API would be an option too. The API is more modular
> than the Jena or the Sesame one and can be backed either by a Jena or
> a Sesame triplestore.
>
I really like the idea of using the Clerezza API as an abstraction level
over Jena and Sesame
to support both and any further ones. Trying to understand how much
complexity this can add.
>
>
> > Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
> > (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
>
> I agree. A common API would foster reuse.
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>
Cheers,
Mic
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmür <re...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Paolo Castagna
<ca...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> first of all, it's good to see Any23 try to come into the Apache incubator.
>
> Michele Mostarda wrote:
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
>>> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
>>> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
>>> an interest.
>>>
>>
>> We hope so!
>>
>>
>>> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
>>> Redland & family?
>>
>>
>> Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to Jena.
>
> Could you expand on the reasons which made you choose Sesame for Any23?
> In particular, what's missing in Jena which is needed by Any23 or what
> you don't like? (It might get fixed. ;-))
Using the Clerezza API would be an option too. The API is more modular
than the Jena or the Sesame one and can be backed either by a Jena or
a Sesame triplestore.
> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
I agree. A common API would foster reuse.
Cheers,
Reto
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Michele Mostarda <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 5 September 2011 00:33, Paolo Castagna <ca...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
> first of all, it's good to see Any23 try to come into the Apache incubator.
>
> Michele Mostarda wrote:
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
> >> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
> >> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
> >> an interest.
> >>
> >
> > We hope so!
> >
> >
> >> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
> >> Redland & family?
> >
> >
> > Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to
> Jena.
>
> Could you expand on the reasons which made you choose Sesame for Any23?
> In particular, what's missing in Jena which is needed by Any23 or what
> you don't like? (It might get fixed. ;-))
>
Good question. When we started working on Any23, the Sesame library was more
modularized and documented and there was also a full Maven support.
Today much of these reasons are no longer valid.
>
> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
>
Completely agree.
>
> Paolo
>
> >
> >
> >> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
> >> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
> >>
> >
> > When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
> > covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
> > confidence
> > that this is still true.
> >
> > We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
> > in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors
> ready
> > to
> > be experimented by industry and academic environment.
> >
> > The best
> >
> > Mic
> >
> > [1] http://www.openrdf.org/
> >
> >
> >> --
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
thanks a lot for your interest Reto,
I just added you in the committers list in the proposal.
Alles gute!
Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmür
<me...@farewellutopia.com> wrote:
> I would like to join the project as committer.
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
>>> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely. That's a thing we'll pursue in the incubation process among
>> others.
>>
>> all the best,
>>
>> Davide
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
>>> >> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
>>> > covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
>>> > confidence
>>> > that this is still true.
>>> >
>>> > We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
>>> > in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors
>>> ready
>>> > to
>>> > be experimented by industry and academic environment.
>>> >
>>> > The best
>>> >
>>> > Mic
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://www.openrdf.org/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> --
>>> >> Nick Kew
>>> >>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmür <me...@farewellutopia.com>.
I would like to join the project as committer.
Cheers,
Reto
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
>> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
>>
>
> Absolutely. That's a thing we'll pursue in the incubation process among
> others.
>
> all the best,
>
> Davide
>
>
>>
>> Paolo
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
>> >> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
>> >>
>> >
>> > When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
>> > covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
>> > confidence
>> > that this is still true.
>> >
>> > We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
>> > in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors
>> ready
>> > to
>> > be experimented by industry and academic environment.
>> >
>> > The best
>> >
>> > Mic
>> >
>> > [1] http://www.openrdf.org/
>> >
>> >
>> >> --
>> >> Nick Kew
>> >>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Davide Palmisano <dp...@gmail.com>.
>
>
>
> Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
> (even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
>
Absolutely. That's a thing we'll pursue in the incubation process among
others.
all the best,
Davide
>
> Paolo
>
> >
> >
> >> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
> >> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
> >>
> >
> > When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
> > covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
> > confidence
> > that this is still true.
> >
> > We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
> > in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors
> ready
> > to
> > be experimented by industry and academic environment.
> >
> > The best
> >
> > Mic
> >
> > [1] http://www.openrdf.org/
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> Nick Kew
> >>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Paolo Castagna <ca...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
first of all, it's good to see Any23 try to come into the Apache incubator.
Michele Mostarda wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
>> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
>> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
>> an interest.
>>
>
> We hope so!
>
>
>> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
>> Redland & family?
>
>
> Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to Jena.
Could you expand on the reasons which made you choose Sesame for Any23?
In particular, what's missing in Jena which is needed by Any23 or what
you don't like? (It might get fixed. ;-))
Increasing code reused and maximizing interaction between Apache projects
(even if in the incubation phase) is, IMHO, a good thing.
Paolo
>
>
>> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
>> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
>>
>
> When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
> covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
> confidence
> that this is still true.
>
> We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
> in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors ready
> to
> be experimented by industry and academic environment.
>
> The best
>
> Mic
>
> [1] http://www.openrdf.org/
>
>
>> --
>> Nick Kew
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@epimorphics.com>.
On 04/09/11 11:02, Michele Mostarda wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew<ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
>>
>> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
>> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
>> an interest.
>>
>
> We hope so!
>
>
>> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
>> Redland& family?
>
>
> Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to Jena.
which is:
http://incubator.apache.org/jena/
There's a nice collection of semantic web related projects now in incubator.
Andy
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Michele Mostarda <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nick,
On 4 September 2011 10:32, Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
>
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
>
> Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
> It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
> an interest.
>
We hope so!
> How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
> Redland & family?
Currently we use Sesame [1], which is an RDF library really similar to Jena.
> Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
> develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
>
When we started writing Any23 there were no other Open Source solutions
covering all the specifications we do, ATM we can affirm with strong
confidence
that this is still true.
We carefully follow development of new RDF related specifications
in particular for metadata annotation to provide new data extractors ready
to
be experimented by industry and academic environment.
The best
Mic
[1] http://www.openrdf.org/
>
> --
> Nick Kew
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator
Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>.
On 3 Sep 2011, at 16:01, Davide Palmisano wrote:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal
Hmmm. Could've done with something like that a decade or so ago.
It's been a while since I worked with the semweb, but I might take
an interest.
How would Any23 relate to well-known semweb libraries such as
Redland & family? Your proposal lists a couple of users: did they
develop it to meet a need for which there was previously no solution?
--
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