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Posted to dev@daffodil.apache.org by Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> on 2017/10/02 19:03:21 UTC

Re: draft of podling report for upcoming board review

On 09/29/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
> Below is rough draft of our podling report. Comments/changes?
> 
> -----------------
> 
> Daffodil
> 
> Apache Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description Language
> (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
> 
> Daffodil has been incubating since 2017-08-27.
> 
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> 
>   1. obtaining SGAs
>   2. establishing new apache-centric infrastructure
>   3. broadening base of contributors
> 
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
> 
> - Only that chasing the SGAs down is going to take some time, though
>  this may be typical.
> 
> How has the community developed since the last report?
> 
> - Users:
>  (1) The Open Grid Forum's DFDL workgroup mailing list has had inquiries
>  and questions about Daffodil - using it and creating DFDL schemas.
>  We will start redirecting such to our incubator users mailing list,
>  as soon as we're ready.
>  (2) A large software company has demonstrated a prototype integration of
>  Daffodil into their commercial product. Of note: they did this without
>  any support contact to Daffodil developers.
> 
> - Developers/Contributors: One new outside developer has been setup, and has
>  started a project modifying the Daffodil code-base. This is still in the pre-Apache
>  context, and we've no idea if they'll want to contribute back. But it does show
>  both interest and that the technical barriers to entry for new developers to be
>  productive are surmountable.
> 
> How has the project developed since the last report?
> 
> - A final consistent release/build of the legacy (pre-Apache) code-base
>  is over, all project efforts going forward can be Apache focused
>  once we have infrastructure setup.
> - Progress is being made on obtaining the individual and organizational
>  SGAs.
> 
> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> 
>   [X] Initial setup
>   [ ] Working towards first release
>   [ ] Community building
>   [ ] Nearing graduation
>   [ ] Other:
> 
> Date of last release:
> 
>   (none yet) XXXX-XX-XX
> 
> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> 
> - No changes yet - same as at our project incubator inception
> 
> Signed-off-by:
> 
>   [ ](daffodil) John D. Ament
>      Comments:
>   [ ](daffodil) David Fisher
>      Comments:
> 
> IPMC/Shepherd notes:
> 

Looks good to me, +1

- Steve

Re: draft of podling report for upcoming board review

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -

I see - I have added the rest of the Initial Committers to the PPMC.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I believe ICLA's are signed and accounts are set up for all of our
> Initial Committers. We're still working on getting SGA's from Tresys,
> NCSA, and IBM. We're also inspecting the Daffodil codebase for other
> contributors to determine if we need SGAs from other entities (AFRL, NRL
> and DoD). We suspect their code has all been replaced, but we are still
> verifying that.
> 
> - Steve
> 
> On 10/02/2017 03:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great to get ICLAs and accounts setup for more of the Initial Committers than you two.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 09/29/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
>>>> Below is rough draft of our podling report. Comments/changes?
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------
>>>> 
>>>> Daffodil
>>>> 
>>>> Apache Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description Language
>>>> (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>>>> 
>>>> Daffodil has been incubating since 2017-08-27.
>>>> 
>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. obtaining SGAs
>>>> 2. establishing new apache-centric infrastructure
>>>> 3. broadening base of contributors
>>>> 
>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>>> aware of?
>>>> 
>>>> - Only that chasing the SGAs down is going to take some time, though
>>>> this may be typical.
>>>> 
>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>> 
>>>> - Users:
>>>> (1) The Open Grid Forum's DFDL workgroup mailing list has had inquiries
>>>> and questions about Daffodil - using it and creating DFDL schemas.
>>>> We will start redirecting such to our incubator users mailing list,
>>>> as soon as we're ready.
>>>> (2) A large software company has demonstrated a prototype integration of
>>>> Daffodil into their commercial product. Of note: they did this without
>>>> any support contact to Daffodil developers.
>>>> 
>>>> - Developers/Contributors: One new outside developer has been setup, and has
>>>> started a project modifying the Daffodil code-base. This is still in the pre-Apache
>>>> context, and we've no idea if they'll want to contribute back. But it does show
>>>> both interest and that the technical barriers to entry for new developers to be
>>>> productive are surmountable.
>>>> 
>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>> 
>>>> - A final consistent release/build of the legacy (pre-Apache) code-base
>>>> is over, all project efforts going forward can be Apache focused
>>>> once we have infrastructure setup.
>>>> - Progress is being made on obtaining the individual and organizational
>>>> SGAs.
>>>> 
>>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>> 
>>>> [X] Initial setup
>>>> [ ] Working towards first release
>>>> [ ] Community building
>>>> [ ] Nearing graduation
>>>> [ ] Other:
>>>> 
>>>> Date of last release:
>>>> 
>>>> (none yet) XXXX-XX-XX
>>>> 
>>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>> 
>>>> - No changes yet - same as at our project incubator inception
>>>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by:
>>>> 
>>>> [ ](daffodil) John D. Ament
>>>>    Comments:
>>>> [ ](daffodil) David Fisher
>>>>    Comments:
>>>> 
>>>> IPMC/Shepherd notes:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Looks good to me, +1
>>> 
>>> - Steve
>> 
> 


Re: draft of podling report for upcoming board review

Posted by Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org>.
I believe ICLA's are signed and accounts are set up for all of our
Initial Committers. We're still working on getting SGA's from Tresys,
NCSA, and IBM. We're also inspecting the Daffodil codebase for other
contributors to determine if we need SGAs from other entities (AFRL, NRL
and DoD). We suspect their code has all been replaced, but we are still
verifying that.

- Steve

On 10/02/2017 03:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> It would be great to get ICLAs and accounts setup for more of the Initial Committers than you two.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/29/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
>>> Below is rough draft of our podling report. Comments/changes?
>>>
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> Daffodil
>>>
>>> Apache Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description Language
>>> (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>>>
>>> Daffodil has been incubating since 2017-08-27.
>>>
>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>
>>>  1. obtaining SGAs
>>>  2. establishing new apache-centric infrastructure
>>>  3. broadening base of contributors
>>>
>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>> aware of?
>>>
>>> - Only that chasing the SGAs down is going to take some time, though
>>> this may be typical.
>>>
>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>
>>> - Users:
>>> (1) The Open Grid Forum's DFDL workgroup mailing list has had inquiries
>>> and questions about Daffodil - using it and creating DFDL schemas.
>>> We will start redirecting such to our incubator users mailing list,
>>> as soon as we're ready.
>>> (2) A large software company has demonstrated a prototype integration of
>>> Daffodil into their commercial product. Of note: they did this without
>>> any support contact to Daffodil developers.
>>>
>>> - Developers/Contributors: One new outside developer has been setup, and has
>>> started a project modifying the Daffodil code-base. This is still in the pre-Apache
>>> context, and we've no idea if they'll want to contribute back. But it does show
>>> both interest and that the technical barriers to entry for new developers to be
>>> productive are surmountable.
>>>
>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>
>>> - A final consistent release/build of the legacy (pre-Apache) code-base
>>> is over, all project efforts going forward can be Apache focused
>>> once we have infrastructure setup.
>>> - Progress is being made on obtaining the individual and organizational
>>> SGAs.
>>>
>>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>>>
>>>  [X] Initial setup
>>>  [ ] Working towards first release
>>>  [ ] Community building
>>>  [ ] Nearing graduation
>>>  [ ] Other:
>>>
>>> Date of last release:
>>>
>>>  (none yet) XXXX-XX-XX
>>>
>>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>>>
>>> - No changes yet - same as at our project incubator inception
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by:
>>>
>>>  [ ](daffodil) John D. Ament
>>>     Comments:
>>>  [ ](daffodil) David Fisher
>>>     Comments:
>>>
>>> IPMC/Shepherd notes:
>>>
>>
>> Looks good to me, +1
>>
>> - Steve
> 


Re: draft of podling report for upcoming board review

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -

It would be great to get ICLAs and accounts setup for more of the Initial Committers than you two.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 09/29/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
>> Below is rough draft of our podling report. Comments/changes?
>> 
>> -----------------
>> 
>> Daffodil
>> 
>> Apache Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description Language
>> (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>> 
>> Daffodil has been incubating since 2017-08-27.
>> 
>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>> 
>>  1. obtaining SGAs
>>  2. establishing new apache-centric infrastructure
>>  3. broadening base of contributors
>> 
>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>> aware of?
>> 
>> - Only that chasing the SGAs down is going to take some time, though
>> this may be typical.
>> 
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>> 
>> - Users:
>> (1) The Open Grid Forum's DFDL workgroup mailing list has had inquiries
>> and questions about Daffodil - using it and creating DFDL schemas.
>> We will start redirecting such to our incubator users mailing list,
>> as soon as we're ready.
>> (2) A large software company has demonstrated a prototype integration of
>> Daffodil into their commercial product. Of note: they did this without
>> any support contact to Daffodil developers.
>> 
>> - Developers/Contributors: One new outside developer has been setup, and has
>> started a project modifying the Daffodil code-base. This is still in the pre-Apache
>> context, and we've no idea if they'll want to contribute back. But it does show
>> both interest and that the technical barriers to entry for new developers to be
>> productive are surmountable.
>> 
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>> 
>> - A final consistent release/build of the legacy (pre-Apache) code-base
>> is over, all project efforts going forward can be Apache focused
>> once we have infrastructure setup.
>> - Progress is being made on obtaining the individual and organizational
>> SGAs.
>> 
>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>> 
>>  [X] Initial setup
>>  [ ] Working towards first release
>>  [ ] Community building
>>  [ ] Nearing graduation
>>  [ ] Other:
>> 
>> Date of last release:
>> 
>>  (none yet) XXXX-XX-XX
>> 
>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>> 
>> - No changes yet - same as at our project incubator inception
>> 
>> Signed-off-by:
>> 
>>  [ ](daffodil) John D. Ament
>>     Comments:
>>  [ ](daffodil) David Fisher
>>     Comments:
>> 
>> IPMC/Shepherd notes:
>> 
> 
> Looks good to me, +1
> 
> - Steve


Re: draft of podling report for upcoming board review

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi -

I added the report to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017 <https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2017>

I did my mentor sign off.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 2, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Steve Lawrence <sl...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 09/29/2017 10:16 AM, Mike Beckerle wrote:
>> Below is rough draft of our podling report. Comments/changes?
>> 
>> -----------------
>> 
>> Daffodil
>> 
>> Apache Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description Language
>> (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>> 
>> Daffodil has been incubating since 2017-08-27.
>> 
>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>> 
>>  1. obtaining SGAs
>>  2. establishing new apache-centric infrastructure
>>  3. broadening base of contributors
>> 
>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>> aware of?
>> 
>> - Only that chasing the SGAs down is going to take some time, though
>> this may be typical.
>> 
>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>> 
>> - Users:
>> (1) The Open Grid Forum's DFDL workgroup mailing list has had inquiries
>> and questions about Daffodil - using it and creating DFDL schemas.
>> We will start redirecting such to our incubator users mailing list,
>> as soon as we're ready.
>> (2) A large software company has demonstrated a prototype integration of
>> Daffodil into their commercial product. Of note: they did this without
>> any support contact to Daffodil developers.
>> 
>> - Developers/Contributors: One new outside developer has been setup, and has
>> started a project modifying the Daffodil code-base. This is still in the pre-Apache
>> context, and we've no idea if they'll want to contribute back. But it does show
>> both interest and that the technical barriers to entry for new developers to be
>> productive are surmountable.
>> 
>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>> 
>> - A final consistent release/build of the legacy (pre-Apache) code-base
>> is over, all project efforts going forward can be Apache focused
>> once we have infrastructure setup.
>> - Progress is being made on obtaining the individual and organizational
>> SGAs.
>> 
>> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>> 
>>  [X] Initial setup
>>  [ ] Working towards first release
>>  [ ] Community building
>>  [ ] Nearing graduation
>>  [ ] Other:
>> 
>> Date of last release:
>> 
>>  (none yet) XXXX-XX-XX
>> 
>> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>> 
>> - No changes yet - same as at our project incubator inception
>> 
>> Signed-off-by:
>> 
>>  [ ](daffodil) John D. Ament
>>     Comments:
>>  [ ](daffodil) David Fisher
>>     Comments:
>> 
>> IPMC/Shepherd notes:
>> 
> 
> Looks good to me, +1
> 
> - Steve