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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Rakesh <ra...@netcore.co.in> on 2004/07/19 17:00:17 UTC
SURBL And SpamCOP URI
hi
Please don't mind my query if it seems childish or off the track. I am
little bit confused between SURBL and SpamCop URI checks. I have a high
volume mail relay server and have recently implemented SpamCOP URI
checks and happily catching a great deal of spam.
My confusion is "Is SpamCop URI checks and SURBL checks one and the same
thing or SURBL is an extension of SpamCop URI checks". I tried to google
a bit abt this but i think perhaps the English on the sites might be a
bit hard for me to understand. So please do clear my confusion.
Also can I cache the SpamCop URI database Cached locally on a database
on my servers ?
thanks
Rakesh
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Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 1:44:10 AM Rakesh wrote:
> Actually I was thinking on the lines of your
> first point and the other two didn't strike me, but now i know what
> options I have and seriously if my Company permits I will definitely
> like to provide public Name Server for SURBLs
Either way would be great. Please sign up for rsync access
and set up a mirror, whether it's private or public.
http://www.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
We need to get large mail systems off the public name servers.
Please join the SURBL community on our mailing lists at:
http://lists.surbl.org/
Cheers,
Jeff C.
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Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by Rakesh <ra...@netcore.co.in>.
Oh John thanks a lot ! But frankly sometimes unclear sentences give you
a better clarifications. Actually I was thinking on the lines of your
first point and the other two didn't strike me, but now i know what
options I have and seriously if my Company permits I will definitely
like to provide public Name Server for SURBLs
Ne-ways Jeff is already overloaded answering other's mails and I think
we shouldn't bother him much on petty things like this. ;-)
Rakesh
John Andersen wrote:
>On Monday 19 July 2004 10:09 pm, Jeff Chan wrote:
>
>
>>On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:01:30 PM, Rakesh wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can I do RBL mirroring for commercial sites ?
>>>
>>>
>>I'm not sure I understand your question. Is one of these
>>interpretations close to what you're asking?
>>
>>
>>1. You run a commercial system and would like to mirror
>>RBLs for your company's use, including SURBLs.
>>
>>Yes, this is fine and encouraged for large volume mail
>>systems. Many companies and commercial ISPs are doing
>>this now, in addition to many universities, etc.
>>
>>
>>2. You run a commercial system and would like to provide
>>a public name server for SURBLs.
>>
>>That too would be welcomed. We need more public name servers
>>in Asia.
>>
>>
>>3. You would like to provide public or private DNS of RBLs
>>for commercial uses.
>>
>>That too would be fine.
>>
>>
>>Jeff C.
>>
>>
>
>Jeff you are so accomodating it might have been quicker
>to tell him what WOULD NOT be ok... ;-)
>
>
>
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Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by John Andersen <js...@pen.homeip.net>.
On Monday 19 July 2004 10:09 pm, Jeff Chan wrote:
> On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:01:30 PM, Rakesh wrote:
> > Can I do RBL mirroring for commercial sites ?
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question. Is one of these
> interpretations close to what you're asking?
>
>
> 1. You run a commercial system and would like to mirror
> RBLs for your company's use, including SURBLs.
>
> Yes, this is fine and encouraged for large volume mail
> systems. Many companies and commercial ISPs are doing
> this now, in addition to many universities, etc.
>
>
> 2. You run a commercial system and would like to provide
> a public name server for SURBLs.
>
> That too would be welcomed. We need more public name servers
> in Asia.
>
>
> 3. You would like to provide public or private DNS of RBLs
> for commercial uses.
>
> That too would be fine.
>
>
> Jeff C.
Jeff you are so accomodating it might have been quicker
to tell him what WOULD NOT be ok... ;-)
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John Andersen
Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:01:30 PM, Rakesh wrote:
> Can I do RBL mirroring for commercial sites ?
I'm not sure I understand your question. Is one of these
interpretations close to what you're asking?
1. You run a commercial system and would like to mirror
RBLs for your company's use, including SURBLs.
Yes, this is fine and encouraged for large volume mail
systems. Many companies and commercial ISPs are doing
this now, in addition to many universities, etc.
2. You run a commercial system and would like to provide
a public name server for SURBLs.
That too would be welcomed. We need more public name servers
in Asia.
3. You would like to provide public or private DNS of RBLs
for commercial uses.
That too would be fine.
Jeff C.
--
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/
Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by Rakesh <ra...@netcore.co.in>.
Can I do RBL mirroring for commercial sites ?
regards
Rakesh
Jeff Chan wrote:
>On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:00:17 AM, Rakesh wrote:
>
>
>>Please don't mind my query if it seems childish or off the track. I am
>>little bit confused between SURBL and SpamCop URI checks. I have a high
>>volume mail relay server and have recently implemented SpamCOP URI
>>checks and happily catching a great deal of spam.
>>
>>
>
>On behalf of everyone helping with the SURBL project, thanks for
>your good feedback!
>
>
>
>>My confusion is "Is SpamCop URI checks and SURBL checks one and the same
>>thing or SURBL is an extension of SpamCop URI checks".
>>
>>
>
>Yes SpamCopURI uses SURBL data. The name "SpamCopURI" was chosen
>when our only data source was SpamCop's Spamvertised sites. Now
>we have additional data sources, so the name is perhaps a little
>misleading, since "SpamCopURI" can be used with the other SURBL
>lists (which don't use SpamCop data sources) just fine.
>
>
>
>>Also can I cache the SpamCop URI database Cached locally on a database
>>on my servers ?
>>
>>
>
>Yes. Like other RBLs you can cache (mirror) the SURBL zone files
>locally. That's definitely a good idea for high volume mail
>systems. For more information please see:
>
> http://www.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
>
>Jeff C.
>
>
Re: SURBL And SpamCOP URI
Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Monday, July 19, 2004, 8:00:17 AM, Rakesh wrote:
> Please don't mind my query if it seems childish or off the track. I am
> little bit confused between SURBL and SpamCop URI checks. I have a high
> volume mail relay server and have recently implemented SpamCOP URI
> checks and happily catching a great deal of spam.
On behalf of everyone helping with the SURBL project, thanks for
your good feedback!
> My confusion is "Is SpamCop URI checks and SURBL checks one and the same
> thing or SURBL is an extension of SpamCop URI checks".
Yes SpamCopURI uses SURBL data. The name "SpamCopURI" was chosen
when our only data source was SpamCop's Spamvertised sites. Now
we have additional data sources, so the name is perhaps a little
misleading, since "SpamCopURI" can be used with the other SURBL
lists (which don't use SpamCop data sources) just fine.
> Also can I cache the SpamCop URI database Cached locally on a database
> on my servers ?
Yes. Like other RBLs you can cache (mirror) the SURBL zone files
locally. That's definitely a good idea for high volume mail
systems. For more information please see:
http://www.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
Jeff C.
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Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/