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Posted to dev@eagle.apache.org by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> on 2016/03/28 21:18:58 UTC

Release votes

(Changed subject; was: "Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Eagle Incubating Version 0.3.0(RC3)”.)

Remember, the vote period is a *minimum* of 72 hours to give everyone ample time to review. It doesn’t matter if you receive 3 +1 votes within 10 minutes of the vote starting. You still need to keep it open 72 hours to give people chance to vote against the release.

If you haven’t received 3 +1 votes after 72 hours, you can keep it open longer if you like.

Many projects make the period longer if the vote occurs over a weekend and especially if it is over a long weekend. (This weekend was Easter, and a 3 or 4 day weekend in many countries, so this particular vote may have had very little overlap with people’s working hours.)

Having said that, voters should do their best to vote early. It helps the project iterate more quickly. It a negative vote is received early, the release manager might be able to cancel the vote and start a vote on a new release candidate in one working day.

Also, I recommend you use Apache URLs for vote threads and results. Other archives are outside Apache’s control so are not guaranteed immutable. If you like, you can use the Apache shortener, http://s.apache.org, to convert to a more manageable URL:

For example,

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459%40ebay.com%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459@ebay.com%3E>

is shortened to

https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result 

Julian


> On Mar 28, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
> 
> Sure my bad, will consider and resend.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/26/16, 7:26 PM, "Julian Hyde" <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> I thought you said it would be open 72 hours. By my reckoning we have about another 12 hours. I think we should accept any votes received in the next few hours, provided they are in the period.
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The voting for "Apache Eagle, 0.3.0 Release Candidate 3" passed with 3 binding +1 votes from the Incubator PMC members and One +1 VOTE from apache contributor. There are no 0 or -1 votes.
>>> 
>>> Votes:
>>> +1 Julian Hyde(binding)
>>> +1 amareshwarisr(binding)
>>> +1 Hao Chen(binding)
>>> 
>>> +1 (Liangfei.Su)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thread: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org/msg02766.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all who reviewed and voted.
>>> I will proceed for Voting on General Incubation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Hemanth
>> 


Re: Release votes

Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
It’s customary to post both the vote proposal (i.e. the mail message that started the vote, from which it is easy to find all of the votes, since they are in the same thread) and the result.

You could make https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-vote as a link to http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3CF4699940-FFBA-4868-8AE9-EB1F90DAA1EB@ebay.com%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3CF4699940-FFBA-4868-8AE9-EB1F90DAA1EB@ebay.com%3E>.

Julian




> On Mar 28, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
> 
> Julian. 
> 
>         The link "https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result <https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result>" does not list the entire thread of Votes. 
>         I assume that the link should provide the proof(Thread) listing all votes. Is there anyway to show this ?   
> 
> Regards
> Hemanth 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/28/16, 12:18 PM, "Julian Hyde" <jhyde@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> 
>> (Changed subject; was: "Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Eagle Incubating Version 0.3.0(RC3)”.)
>> 
>> Remember, the vote period is a *minimum* of 72 hours to give everyone ample time to review. It doesn’t matter if you receive 3 +1 votes within 10 minutes of the vote starting. You still need to keep it open 72 hours to give people chance to vote against the release.
>> 
>> If you haven’t received 3 +1 votes after 72 hours, you can keep it open longer if you like.
>> 
>> Many projects make the period longer if the vote occurs over a weekend and especially if it is over a long weekend. (This weekend was Easter, and a 3 or 4 day weekend in many countries, so this particular vote may have had very little overlap with people’s working hours.)
>> 
>> Having said that, voters should do their best to vote early. It helps the project iterate more quickly. It a negative vote is received early, the release manager might be able to cancel the vote and start a vote on a new release candidate in one working day.
>> 
>> Also, I recommend you use Apache URLs for vote threads and results. Other archives are outside Apache’s control so are not guaranteed immutable. If you like, you can use the Apache shortener, http://s.apache.org, to convert to a more manageable URL:
>> 
>> For example,
>> 
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459%40ebay.com%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459%40ebay.com%3E> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459@ebay.com%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459@ebay.com%3E>>
>> 
>> is shortened to
>> 
>> https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result 
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sure my bad, will consider and resend.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/26/16, 7:26 PM, "Julian Hyde" <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I thought you said it would be open 72 hours. By my reckoning we have about another 12 hours. I think we should accept any votes received in the next few hours, provided they are in the period.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The voting for "Apache Eagle, 0.3.0 Release Candidate 3" passed with 3 binding +1 votes from the Incubator PMC members and One +1 VOTE from apache contributor. There are no 0 or -1 votes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Votes:
>>>>> +1 Julian Hyde(binding)
>>>>> +1 amareshwarisr(binding)
>>>>> +1 Hao Chen(binding)
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 (Liangfei.Su)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thread: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org/msg02766.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to all who reviewed and voted.
>>>>> I will proceed for Voting on General Incubation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hemanth


Re: Release votes

Posted by "Dendukuri, Hemanth" <hd...@ebay.com>.
Julian. 

         The link "https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result" does not list the entire thread of Votes. 
         I assume that the link should provide the proof(Thread) listing all votes. Is there anyway to show this ?   

Regards
Hemanth 
    



On 3/28/16, 12:18 PM, "Julian Hyde" <jh...@apache.org> wrote:

>(Changed subject; was: "Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Eagle Incubating Version 0.3.0(RC3)”.)
>
>Remember, the vote period is a *minimum* of 72 hours to give everyone ample time to review. It doesn’t matter if you receive 3 +1 votes within 10 minutes of the vote starting. You still need to keep it open 72 hours to give people chance to vote against the release.
>
>If you haven’t received 3 +1 votes after 72 hours, you can keep it open longer if you like.
>
>Many projects make the period longer if the vote occurs over a weekend and especially if it is over a long weekend. (This weekend was Easter, and a 3 or 4 day weekend in many countries, so this particular vote may have had very little overlap with people’s working hours.)
>
>Having said that, voters should do their best to vote early. It helps the project iterate more quickly. It a negative vote is received early, the release manager might be able to cancel the vote and start a vote on a new release candidate in one working day.
>
>Also, I recommend you use Apache URLs for vote threads and results. Other archives are outside Apache’s control so are not guaranteed immutable. If you like, you can use the Apache shortener, http://s.apache.org, to convert to a more manageable URL:
>
>For example,
>
>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459%40ebay.com%3E <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-eagle-dev/201603.mbox/%3C46F16004-755D-4659-89C7-365CC4A15459@ebay.com%3E>
>
>is shortened to
>
>https://s.apache.org/eagle-0.3.0-result 
>
>Julian
>
>
>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sure my bad, will consider and resend.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/26/16, 7:26 PM, "Julian Hyde" <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I thought you said it would be open 72 hours. By my reckoning we have about another 12 hours. I think we should accept any votes received in the next few hours, provided they are in the period.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Dendukuri, Hemanth <hd...@ebay.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The voting for "Apache Eagle, 0.3.0 Release Candidate 3" passed with 3 binding +1 votes from the Incubator PMC members and One +1 VOTE from apache contributor. There are no 0 or -1 votes.
>>>> 
>>>> Votes:
>>>> +1 Julian Hyde(binding)
>>>> +1 amareshwarisr(binding)
>>>> +1 Hao Chen(binding)
>>>> 
>>>> +1 (Liangfei.Su)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thread: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@eagle.incubator.apache.org/msg02766.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to all who reviewed and voted.
>>>> I will proceed for Voting on General Incubation.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hemanth
>>>