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Posted to slide-user@jakarta.apache.org by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> on 2001/06/19 09:29:25 UTC
Re: content managament
> I'm new to slide, can you please give the details for creating a content
managament system using slide
The question is a bit vague.
What do you plan to do with it ?
If you look at the features page and at the TODO list, you can get an idea
about the state of the project.
Remy
Re: Jetspeed/Slide integration
Posted by Chris Kimpton <ki...@yahoo.com>.
--- Sony Joseph <so...@eself.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to integrate Slide and jetspeed ?
>
In what way?
We are using jetspeed and have a portlet for uploading documents into
slide - but this is basically a call to a slide wrapper java class
that handles all the slide/webdav interaction.
We also use it for retrieving documents, but again this is a portlet
that talks to the slide wrapper java class to retrieve the document.
The slide wrapper is a simple singleton service that handles storing
and retrieving documents - it talks via http to a webdav server,
slide in this case.
We use the DAVExplorer httpclient package to make it easier to do the
communication.
We could have used the slide api directly, but wanted something that
is webdav portable - which we didn't investigate via slide (I think
you can get slide to use/reflect another webdav store).
HTH,
Chris
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Jetspeed/Slide integration
Posted by Sony Joseph <so...@eself.com>.
Hi,
Has anyone tried to integrate Slide and jetspeed ?
Thanks,
Sony
Re: Binary Version Control
Posted by Kelvin Tan <ke...@myangel.com>.
Isn't Java capable of performing bit-shifts?
I've been keeping tabs on the xdelta system, but I doubt if anything
satisfactory has been produced in Java...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Hawkins" <pe...@globalvision.com.au>
To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: RE: Binary Version Control
> It wouldn't be that hard to do from the slide end - it could be via a
> separate experimental store for now.
>
> The problem is usually a practical one. For example, let's suppose you run
> your binary file through uuencode and diff that - you could store a set of
> diffs, but you'd probably find that you wind up storing just about the
> entire file anyway because a change is likely to bit-shift and change all
> the ascii from then on. It's basically a case of 8-bit to printable
> conversion.
>
> Now, if instead of that you dispense with printable diffs (and you could
in
> the case of slide), you could integrate in something like:
> http://filewatcher.org/file_i/33296327/xdelta.html.
>
> Neat little project for someone.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelvin Tan [mailto:kelvin@myangel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2001 7:07 PM
> To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Binary Version Control
>
>
> Not sure how relevant this is to the Slide-User list, but I'll give it a
> shot.
>
> Content management isn't just about managing text. It's also about
managing
> binary data. Currently we have CVS and Diff to perform version-control
(and
> storing the differences) for text. Is there a binary equivalent?
>
> If I upload a 10MB binary file and check it out, then check in a 10.1MB
> binary file, wouldn't it be neat if the content management system could
> store just the difference?
>
> I understand rsync performs something similar, though I'm not too clear
> about it.
>
> Comments?
>
>
RE: Binary Version Control
Posted by Peter Hawkins <pe...@globalvision.com.au>.
It wouldn't be that hard to do from the slide end - it could be via a
separate experimental store for now.
The problem is usually a practical one. For example, let's suppose you run
your binary file through uuencode and diff that - you could store a set of
diffs, but you'd probably find that you wind up storing just about the
entire file anyway because a change is likely to bit-shift and change all
the ascii from then on. It's basically a case of 8-bit to printable
conversion.
Now, if instead of that you dispense with printable diffs (and you could in
the case of slide), you could integrate in something like:
http://filewatcher.org/file_i/33296327/xdelta.html.
Neat little project for someone.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelvin Tan [mailto:kelvin@myangel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2001 7:07 PM
To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Binary Version Control
Not sure how relevant this is to the Slide-User list, but I'll give it a
shot.
Content management isn't just about managing text. It's also about managing
binary data. Currently we have CVS and Diff to perform version-control (and
storing the differences) for text. Is there a binary equivalent?
If I upload a 10MB binary file and check it out, then check in a 10.1MB
binary file, wouldn't it be neat if the content management system could
store just the difference?
I understand rsync performs something similar, though I'm not too clear
about it.
Comments?
Binary Version Control
Posted by Kelvin Tan <ke...@myangel.com>.
Not sure how relevant this is to the Slide-User list, but I'll give it a
shot.
Content management isn't just about managing text. It's also about managing
binary data. Currently we have CVS and Diff to perform version-control (and
storing the differences) for text. Is there a binary equivalent?
If I upload a 10MB binary file and check it out, then check in a 10.1MB
binary file, wouldn't it be neat if the content management system could
store just the difference?
I understand rsync performs something similar, though I'm not too clear
about it.
Comments?
Re: content managament
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
> HI Remy,
>
> do you have a working example for this.
A good example is the integration of Slide with Tomcat 4, which provides a
ready to run and easier to use environment.
If you're interested in this, you can :
- try building Slide from CVS (side effect : you also need the latest Tomcat
4 from CVS)
- wait until Gump puts out newer nightly (there are problems with Tomcat 4
in the 6/17 build)
- wait for Slide 1.0.11, which will contain a more stable version
Remy
Re: content managament
Posted by rajiv mulay <ra...@applabs.net>.
HI Remy,
do you have a working example for this.
rajiv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Remy Maucherat" <re...@apache.org>
To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: content managament
> > Hi,
> >
> > It would be a document and content management system. User having access
> > rights can manage files ( upload, create folders, delete, view files).
> these
> > files can be of any type. Content management would be managing the
> contents
> > of website. it would be basically www contents. IT infrastructure would
be
> > windows.
>
> It is supposed to do all of this, and more in some areas.
>
> However, some parts are not done yet, mainly the user administration
> interface.
>
> Remy
Re: content managament
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
> Hi,
>
> It would be a document and content management system. User having access
> rights can manage files ( upload, create folders, delete, view files).
these
> files can be of any type. Content management would be managing the
contents
> of website. it would be basically www contents. IT infrastructure would be
> windows.
It is supposed to do all of this, and more in some areas.
However, some parts are not done yet, mainly the user administration
interface.
Remy
Re: content managament
Posted by rajiv mulay <ra...@applabs.net>.
Hi,
It would be a document and content management system. User having access
rights can manage files ( upload, create folders, delete, view files). these
files can be of any type. Content management would be managing the contents
of website. it would be basically www contents. IT infrastructure would be
windows.
rajiv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Hawkins" <pe...@globalvision.com.au>
To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: content managament
> Perhaps you could give us a few extra details? Content Management can mean
> different things to different people. What sort of data are you going to
> store? Will you need a workflow? What IT infrastructure will it need to
work
> with? (Windows? Mac? Other?) and is it only for WWW content or will you be
> storing things that are for other distribution media? Will the content be
> XML? Office Documents? Other? and what sort of tools will you create
> documents with? That's the sort of thing you need to think about. Roughly
> how many contributors? Documents? How large might a file be? Do you have a
> budget for getting in some help or will you be doing it all yourself?
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rajiv mulay [mailto:rajiv@applabs.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2001 10:11 PM
> To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: content managament
>
>
> I plan to develop a content management system
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Remy Maucherat" <re...@apache.org>
> To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: content managament
>
>
> > > I'm new to slide, can you please give the details for creating a
content
> > managament system using slide
> >
> > The question is a bit vague.
> > What do you plan to do with it ?
> >
> > If you look at the features page and at the TODO list, you can get an
idea
> > about the state of the project.
> >
> > Remy
>
RE: content managament
Posted by Peter Hawkins <pe...@globalvision.com.au>.
Perhaps you could give us a few extra details? Content Management can mean
different things to different people. What sort of data are you going to
store? Will you need a workflow? What IT infrastructure will it need to work
with? (Windows? Mac? Other?) and is it only for WWW content or will you be
storing things that are for other distribution media? Will the content be
XML? Office Documents? Other? and what sort of tools will you create
documents with? That's the sort of thing you need to think about. Roughly
how many contributors? Documents? How large might a file be? Do you have a
budget for getting in some help or will you be doing it all yourself?
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: rajiv mulay [mailto:rajiv@applabs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2001 10:11 PM
To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: content managament
I plan to develop a content management system
----- Original Message -----
From: "Remy Maucherat" <re...@apache.org>
To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: content managament
> > I'm new to slide, can you please give the details for creating a content
> managament system using slide
>
> The question is a bit vague.
> What do you plan to do with it ?
>
> If you look at the features page and at the TODO list, you can get an idea
> about the state of the project.
>
> Remy
Re: content managament
Posted by rajiv mulay <ra...@applabs.net>.
I plan to develop a content management system
----- Original Message -----
From: "Remy Maucherat" <re...@apache.org>
To: <sl...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: content managament
> > I'm new to slide, can you please give the details for creating a content
> managament system using slide
>
> The question is a bit vague.
> What do you plan to do with it ?
>
> If you look at the features page and at the TODO list, you can get an idea
> about the state of the project.
>
> Remy