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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com> on 2012/12/13 19:40:59 UTC
[DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to the mailing list
Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
- What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where you want to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
- We are using AFSCS41 or ACS41 for release specific emails. We need to settle down on one format ACS or AFSCS? I prefer AFSCS but open to ACS too
Animesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:15 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Email Conventions
>
> No but that's a good idea - you should add a page covering it!
>
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> > Joe
> >
> > Do we specify our conventions in wiki on the email subject like [DISCUSS]
> [ASFCS$Release] etc.? I did a search but could not find it.
> >
> > Animesh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:10 AM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Email Conventions
> >
> > This was a big conversation earlier this year.
> >
> > Summary: do whatever works for you. :)
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:50 AM, Donal Lafferty <do...@citrix.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As a rule of thumb, should my responses go at the top or a quoted email,
> the bottom or inline?
> >>
> >> DL
> >>
> >
> > Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
> > o: 415.315.9385
> > @johnlkinsella
> >
> >
>
> Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
> o: 415.315.9385
> @johnlkinsella
Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 03:21:53PM -0500, Chip Childers wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to the mailing list
> >
> > Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
> >
> > - What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
> > I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where you want to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
>
> I would actually like to just drop PROPOSAL. If that's not agreed on
> by everyone else, then I actually believe that DISCUSS is the general
> one and PROPOSAL is a discussion about a specific proposed solution to
> something (which is opposite of the way you interpret it).
I kind of like having PROPOSAL and DISCUSS as you mention here -
sometimes there's something worth discussing that isn't a specific
proposal. ("Hey, what do we do about foo? Does anyone have an opinion?")
That said, I don't have a strong opinion here so if others don't like
the distinction I'm fine with just having DISCUSS.
> I would actually like to suggest that we use ACSXX for release
> specific emails. The project's name is Apache CloudStack (ACS), not
> Apache Software Foundation CloudStack (ASFCS), hence my preference
> here.
+1
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Prasanna Santhanam <pr...@citrix.com>.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:38:01AM +0530, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:22 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> > <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly
> > > used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to
> > > settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to the
> > > mailing list
> > >
> > > Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
> > >
> > > - What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
> > > I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where you want
> > to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
> >
> > I would actually like to just drop PROPOSAL. If that's not agreed on by
> > everyone else, then I actually believe that DISCUSS is the general one and
> > PROPOSAL is a discussion about a specific proposed solution to something
> > (which is opposite of the way you interpret it).
> >
> Thanks for clarifying Chip. I will also like to drop PROPOSAL. If
> there is no objection by tomorrow I will remove it from the table
>
>
> > > - We are using AFSCS41 or ACS41 for release specific emails. We need
> > > to settle down on one format ACS or AFSCS? I prefer AFSCS but open to
> > > ACS too
> > >
> >
> > I would actually like to suggest that we use ACSXX for release specific emails.
> > The project's name is Apache CloudStack (ACS), not Apache Software
> > Foundation CloudStack (ASFCS), hence my preference here.
> [Animesh] Ok I am fine with ACS
+1 , good succint descriptions.
--
Prasanna.,
RE: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:55 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:56:26PM -0800, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> > > Thanks for clarifying Chip. I will also like to drop PROPOSAL. If
> > > there is no objection by tomorrow I will remove it from the table
>
> Wiki edits are no biggie to change/revert, but generally "by tomorrow"
> doesn't leave a lot of time for discussion / response. 72 hours is generally the
> standard for lazy consensus.
>
> (Not saying it's necessary in this case, but I don't want to start a tradition of
> "respond in 24 hours or X happens.")
[Animesh]
Yes I agree with 72 hours but this is still open, I have mentioned in the wiki that table is in progress.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> http://dissociatedpress.net/
> Twitter: @jzb
Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:56:26PM -0800, Animesh Chaturvedi wrote:
> > Thanks for clarifying Chip. I will also like to drop PROPOSAL. If there is no
> > objection by tomorrow I will remove it from the table
Wiki edits are no biggie to change/revert, but generally "by tomorrow"
doesn't leave a lot of time for discussion / response. 72 hours is
generally the standard for lazy consensus.
(Not saying it's necessary in this case, but I don't want to start a
tradition of "respond in 24 hours or X happens.")
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
RE: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturvedi@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:08 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:22 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> > <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly
> > > used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to
> > > settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to
> > > the mailing list
> > >
> > > Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
> > >
> > > - What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
> > > I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where
> > > you want
> > to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
> >
> > I would actually like to just drop PROPOSAL. If that's not agreed on
> > by everyone else, then I actually believe that DISCUSS is the general
> > one and PROPOSAL is a discussion about a specific proposed solution to
> > something (which is opposite of the way you interpret it).
> >
> Thanks for clarifying Chip. I will also like to drop PROPOSAL. If there is no
> objection by tomorrow I will remove it from the table
>
[Animesh] Made the changes as per this discussion
>
> > > - We are using AFSCS41 or ACS41 for release specific emails. We need
> > > to settle down on one format ACS or AFSCS? I prefer AFSCS but open
> > > to ACS too
> > >
> >
> > I would actually like to suggest that we use ACSXX for release specific
> emails.
> > The project's name is Apache CloudStack (ACS), not Apache Software
> > Foundation CloudStack (ASFCS), hence my preference here.
> [Animesh] Ok I am fine with ACS
[Animesh] Made the changes as per this discussion. Please use ACSXX going forward.
RE: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Animesh Chaturvedi <an...@citrix.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.childers@sungard.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:22 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> > I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly
> > used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to
> > settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to the
> > mailing list
> >
> > Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
> >
> > - What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
> > I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where you want
> to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
>
> I would actually like to just drop PROPOSAL. If that's not agreed on by
> everyone else, then I actually believe that DISCUSS is the general one and
> PROPOSAL is a discussion about a specific proposed solution to something
> (which is opposite of the way you interpret it).
>
Thanks for clarifying Chip. I will also like to drop PROPOSAL. If there is no objection by tomorrow I will remove it from the table
> > - We are using AFSCS41 or ACS41 for release specific emails. We need
> > to settle down on one format ACS or AFSCS? I prefer AFSCS but open to
> > ACS too
> >
>
> I would actually like to suggest that we use ACSXX for release specific emails.
> The project's name is Apache CloudStack (ACS), not Apache Software
> Foundation CloudStack (ASFCS), hence my preference here.
[Animesh] Ok I am fine with ACS
Re: [DISCUSS] Email Conventions : Subject Line Prefixes
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
<an...@citrix.com> wrote:
> I updated the wiki 'Mailing List' section with a table for commonly used prefixes. This will need some collaboration and discussion to settle down. Please review and update. Bring back any questions to the mailing list
>
> Open items that I think I am not clear yet.
>
> - What is the difference between using [DISCUSS] v/s [PROPOSAL]?
> I guess [PRPOPSAL] is used to start a broader discussion where you want to solicit opinions whereas [DISCUSS] is narrow focused.
I would actually like to just drop PROPOSAL. If that's not agreed on
by everyone else, then I actually believe that DISCUSS is the general
one and PROPOSAL is a discussion about a specific proposed solution to
something (which is opposite of the way you interpret it).
> - We are using AFSCS41 or ACS41 for release specific emails. We need to settle down on one format ACS or AFSCS? I prefer AFSCS but open to ACS too
>
I would actually like to suggest that we use ACSXX for release
specific emails. The project's name is Apache CloudStack (ACS), not
Apache Software Foundation CloudStack (ASFCS), hence my preference
here.