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Posted to general@xml.apache.org by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@covalent.net> on 2000/10/16 05:21:54 UTC

Final proposed Agenda Xerces-J Workshop 20001016

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Final agenda. Note that we moved the start/end time
by an hour to accomodate the folks from down south
on the peninsula. But I'll try to have the room available
from early on - so that anyone who wants to work/connect
can get something done on east coast hours.

Workshop on Xerces-j hosted by the ASF/XML project
	16th of October, 10.30 am to 18.30pm
	
Subject:
	Xerces-j Projects 

Invitations to:
	xerces-j-dev@xml.apache.org
	general@xml.apache.org
	members@apache.org
	pmc@xml.apache.org

Host:
	The ASF/XML project
	
Location:
	Large meeting room Covalent Technologies
	Available from 8.30

	706 Mission street 2nd Floor
	Corner 3rd and Mission - near SF MOMA

	+1-415-536-5200
	http://www.covalent.net/company/conact 
		for a map

	DDS/803.11 wireless and wired connectivity 
	available.

	Contact: Lilly O'Brien <lo...@covalent.net>
		1-415-536-5200

Dial-in:
	Available to those who requested it. We will dial
	the number you gave (and reconnect you when it 
	connection gets accidentally dropped).

Proposed Agenda:

1.	Opening and introduction

	Confirming the proposed agenda(s).

2.	Guidelines for the rest of the meeting 
	-> are we sitting here as effectively the Apache
	   community insofar as XML parsers is concerned 
	OR
	-> is this more an ASF hosted workshop with company
	   representatives present as well as some representatives
	   of the apache community.

3.	Beyond Xerces and Crimson - what consensus is there ?
	What are we aiming for. Products, Carrier grade code, 
	reference code.. and can it be done in one product ?

4.	Set boundaries to anything we can reach consensus on
	in terms of priorities and aims for the time to come,
	including, but not limited to: performance, footprint,
	modularity, readability, 

5.	Conclude if we need to do such things as to do more 
	Requirments studies, more analysis, proof of principle 
	implementations, of what is there enough, and what do
	we need to fix. How do we 

6.	Community aspect - do we want to continue, how do
	we make sure all voices are heard, how do we make it
	more of an ASF project ?

7.	Agree on Actions, Rules and procedures from here on,
	commitments, staffing, timelines

8.	Closing


Looking forward to seeing you all.

Dw
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Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Vice President Apache Software Foundation / XML Project.


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Re: Final proposed Agenda Xerces-J Workshop 20001016

Posted by Chuck Murcko <ch...@topsail.org>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> 
> > > 7.      Agree on Actions, Rules and procedures from here on,
> > >         commitments, staffing, timelines
> >
> > Ahem! You are not allowed to do this - you can only agree on suggestions
> > you are going to take to the developers.
> 
> Arg - badly phrased. I can see that you can also read it that way. It was
> meant to read as insofar those presents where involved. Again - this
> meeting is a workshop - and as I've gone to great pains elsewhere to
> explain - not a place where ASF or Xerces community deceisions are made.
> 
> Dw

Agreed, but it would be silly to think that plans can't come out of
this. Those plans should go to the appropriate community for approval.
-- 
Chuck
Chuck Murcko
Topsail Group
chuck@topsail.org

Re: Final proposed Agenda Xerces-J Workshop 20001016

Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@covalent.net>.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:

> > 7.      Agree on Actions, Rules and procedures from here on,
> >         commitments, staffing, timelines
> 
> Ahem! You are not allowed to do this - you can only agree on suggestions
> you are going to take to the developers.

Arg - badly phrased. I can see that you can also read it that way. It was
meant to read as insofar those presents where involved. Again - this
meeting is a workshop - and as I've gone to great pains elsewhere to
explain - not a place where ASF or Xerces community deceisions are made.

Dw


Re: Final proposed Agenda Xerces-J Workshop 20001016

Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Final agenda. Note that we moved the start/end time
> by an hour to accomodate the folks from down south
> on the peninsula. But I'll try to have the room available
> from early on - so that anyone who wants to work/connect
> can get something done on east coast hours.
> 
> Workshop on Xerces-j hosted by the ASF/XML project
>         16th of October, 10.30 am to 18.30pm
> 
> Subject:
>         Xerces-j Projects
> 
> Invitations to:
>         xerces-j-dev@xml.apache.org
>         general@xml.apache.org
>         members@apache.org
>         pmc@xml.apache.org
> 
> Host:
>         The ASF/XML project
> 
> Location:
>         Large meeting room Covalent Technologies
>         Available from 8.30
> 
>         706 Mission street 2nd Floor
>         Corner 3rd and Mission - near SF MOMA
> 
>         +1-415-536-5200
>         http://www.covalent.net/company/conact
>                 for a map
> 
>         DDS/803.11 wireless and wired connectivity
>         available.
> 
>         Contact: Lilly O'Brien <lo...@covalent.net>
>                 1-415-536-5200
> 
> Dial-in:
>         Available to those who requested it. We will dial
>         the number you gave (and reconnect you when it
>         connection gets accidentally dropped).
> 
> Proposed Agenda:
> 
> 1.      Opening and introduction
> 
>         Confirming the proposed agenda(s).
> 
> 2.      Guidelines for the rest of the meeting
>         -> are we sitting here as effectively the Apache
>            community insofar as XML parsers is concerned
>         OR
>         -> is this more an ASF hosted workshop with company
>            representatives present as well as some representatives
>            of the apache community.
> 
> 3.      Beyond Xerces and Crimson - what consensus is there ?
>         What are we aiming for. Products, Carrier grade code,
>         reference code.. and can it be done in one product ?
> 
> 4.      Set boundaries to anything we can reach consensus on
>         in terms of priorities and aims for the time to come,
>         including, but not limited to: performance, footprint,
>         modularity, readability,
> 
> 5.      Conclude if we need to do such things as to do more
>         Requirments studies, more analysis, proof of principle
>         implementations, of what is there enough, and what do
>         we need to fix. How do we
> 
> 6.      Community aspect - do we want to continue, how do
>         we make sure all voices are heard, how do we make it
>         more of an ASF project ?
> 
> 7.      Agree on Actions, Rules and procedures from here on,
>         commitments, staffing, timelines

Ahem! You are not allowed to do this - you can only agree on suggestions
you are going to take to the developers.

Cheers,

Ben.

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