Re: [Community] Proposals for those interested in participating

[Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>]

Hi Alex,

Up to now I have been a user of APACHE Directory and Studio in mij company,
but haven't been very active on this mailing list. But I want to complement
the team with both products.

Regarding #1

Apache OFBiz has already an interface to create and maintain party
information, and can use an LDAP engine for authentication. (I use both in
my company) However, it does not have the api's incorporated to maintain
LDAP data. Your java and groovy api's could fulfill that gap in OFBIz
functionality and OFBiz could fill the void regarding a web based
administrative application.

As Directory and OFBiz are APACHE projects both can leverage each others
insights, knowledge and succes.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

2011/3/1 Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>

> Hi all,
>
> <disclaimer>
>  Please excuse the cross post to both dev and user mailing lists.
> </disclaimer>
>
> <marketing-mode-on/>
>
> If you're a lurker, and are interested in getting involved in the Apache
> Directory Project but just don't know what to work on. Here are some
> proposals that might interest you.
>
>
> (1) LDAP Web Administration and/or Self Service Application[s]
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> The name says it all. A simple web based (Servlet) administrative
> application which uses the new LDAP API to administer your own profile or
> the entire server.
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> We're breaking with JNDI and coming out with a new and modern LDAP API.
>
> We want to know how useful it is.
>
> We want to know if certain problems arise using it.
>
> We want general feedback to improve the API.
>
> We want a sample application that shows people how to use it and all its
> features.
>
> We want to grow community and to work with more cool peeps.
>
> This mini-project and those working on would achieve some of these aims.
>
>
> (2) LDAP Command Line Interface
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> A main program that might be attached to an ldap-all jar as the java -jar
> executable with commands to execute the standard set of LDAP operations
> like
> add, del, modify, modifyDn etc.
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> Same purpose as in #1 plus we have something that we can ship with ApacheDS
> that can be used from the command line without requiring other executables
> for administrators to use.
>
>
> (3) LDAP Interactive Command Line Shell
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> A slick bash like shell that can be triggered from the same ldap-all jar's
> java -jar executable with perhaps a shell command. The idea is to take the
> shell motif in FS land over to LDAP land. This way all standard UNIX
> commands like ls, cd, cat, etc can have analogs to navigate and manipulate
> the Directory Information Tree (DIT).
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> Same purpose as in #1 and #2.
>
> It's a cool concept, lots of fun to implement. Use OSGi to have plugins for
> new commands.
>
> We might package it with ADS for sys admins who hate using UI's or have
> nothing but a shell available in front of them in a data center.
>
> Might be something we can also put inside studio.
>
> Can use commands like script to record scripts that can be loaded as stored
> procedures or replayed for tests. Who knows?
>
> On going project that can advance over time with more shell grammar
> constructs like script control flow. That means more people will work on
> the
> project for a long time. Once you get in you can never leave :-). Can use
> scripting languages like groovy and Zoerner's awesome groovy ldap api.
>
> <marketing-mode-off/>
>
> If other folks have some ideas as well please add to this list. Based on
> the
> progress of this thread we can add to the page of potential projects on our
> site/wiki.
>
>
> Best,
> Alex
>

Fwd: [Community] Proposals for those interested in participating

[Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>]

FYI

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
Date: 2011/3/2
Subject: Re: [Community] Proposals for those interested in participating
To: users@directory.apache.org, user@ofbiz.apache.org


Hi Alex,

Up to now I have been a user of APACHE Directory and Studio in mij company,
but haven't been very active on this mailing list. But I want to complement
the team with both products.

Regarding #1

Apache OFBiz has already an interface to create and maintain party
information, and can use an LDAP engine for authentication. (I use both in
my company) However, it does not have the api's incorporated to maintain
LDAP data. Your java and groovy api's could fulfill that gap in OFBIz
functionality and OFBiz could fill the void regarding a web based
administrative application.

As Directory and OFBiz are APACHE projects both can leverage each others
insights, knowledge and succes.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

2011/3/1 Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>

Hi all,
>
> <disclaimer>
>  Please excuse the cross post to both dev and user mailing lists.
> </disclaimer>
>
> <marketing-mode-on/>
>
> If you're a lurker, and are interested in getting involved in the Apache
> Directory Project but just don't know what to work on. Here are some
> proposals that might interest you.
>
>
> (1) LDAP Web Administration and/or Self Service Application[s]
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> The name says it all. A simple web based (Servlet) administrative
> application which uses the new LDAP API to administer your own profile or
> the entire server.
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> We're breaking with JNDI and coming out with a new and modern LDAP API.
>
> We want to know how useful it is.
>
> We want to know if certain problems arise using it.
>
> We want general feedback to improve the API.
>
> We want a sample application that shows people how to use it and all its
> features.
>
> We want to grow community and to work with more cool peeps.
>
> This mini-project and those working on would achieve some of these aims.
>
>
> (2) LDAP Command Line Interface
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> A main program that might be attached to an ldap-all jar as the java -jar
> executable with commands to execute the standard set of LDAP operations
> like
> add, del, modify, modifyDn etc.
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> Same purpose as in #1 plus we have something that we can ship with ApacheDS
> that can be used from the command line without requiring other executables
> for administrators to use.
>
>
> (3) LDAP Interactive Command Line Shell
>
> What is it?
> --------------
>
> A slick bash like shell that can be triggered from the same ldap-all jar's
> java -jar executable with perhaps a shell command. The idea is to take the
> shell motif in FS land over to LDAP land. This way all standard UNIX
> commands like ls, cd, cat, etc can have analogs to navigate and manipulate
> the Directory Information Tree (DIT).
>
> Purpose
> ------------
>
> Same purpose as in #1 and #2.
>
> It's a cool concept, lots of fun to implement. Use OSGi to have plugins for
> new commands.
>
> We might package it with ADS for sys admins who hate using UI's or have
> nothing but a shell available in front of them in a data center.
>
> Might be something we can also put inside studio.
>
> Can use commands like script to record scripts that can be loaded as stored
> procedures or replayed for tests. Who knows?
>
> On going project that can advance over time with more shell grammar
> constructs like script control flow. That means more people will work on
> the
> project for a long time. Once you get in you can never leave :-). Can use
> scripting languages like groovy and Zoerner's awesome groovy ldap api.
>
> <marketing-mode-off/>
>
> If other folks have some ideas as well please add to this list. Based on
> the
> progress of this thread we can add to the page of potential projects on our
> site/wiki.
>
>
> Best,
> Alex
>

Re: [Community] Proposals for those interested in participating

[Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>]

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Up to now I have been a user of APACHE Directory and Studio in mij company,
> but haven't been very active on this mailing list. But I want to complement
> the team with both products.
>
> Regarding #1
>
> Apache OFBiz has already an interface to create and maintain party
> information, and can use an LDAP engine for authentication. (I use both in
> my company) However, it does not have the api's incorporated to maintain
> LDAP data. Your java and groovy api's could fulfill that gap in OFBIz
> functionality and OFBiz could fill the void regarding a web based
> administrative application.
>
> As Directory and OFBiz are APACHE projects both can leverage each others
> insights, knowledge and succes.
>
>
Feel free to use the API in OFBiz. Regarding using OFBiz in ApacheDS, may be
that would be heavy. Plus in the end we're going to have our own permissions
management API at some point for doing RBAC. Maybe we'll piggy back on an
existing API and back the model in LDAP. Who knows but OFBiz seems like over
kill. maybe you were thinking about some of its components?

Regards,
Alex



> 2011/3/1 Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > <disclaimer>
> >  Please excuse the cross post to both dev and user mailing lists.
> > </disclaimer>
> >
> > <marketing-mode-on/>
> >
> > If you're a lurker, and are interested in getting involved in the Apache
> > Directory Project but just don't know what to work on. Here are some
> > proposals that might interest you.
> >
> >
> > (1) LDAP Web Administration and/or Self Service Application[s]
> >
> > What is it?
> > --------------
> >
> > The name says it all. A simple web based (Servlet) administrative
> > application which uses the new LDAP API to administer your own profile or
> > the entire server.
> >
> > Purpose
> > ------------
> >
> > We're breaking with JNDI and coming out with a new and modern LDAP API.
> >
> > We want to know how useful it is.
> >
> > We want to know if certain problems arise using it.
> >
> > We want general feedback to improve the API.
> >
> > We want a sample application that shows people how to use it and all its
> > features.
> >
> > We want to grow community and to work with more cool peeps.
> >
> > This mini-project and those working on would achieve some of these aims.
> >
> >
> > (2) LDAP Command Line Interface
> >
> > What is it?
> > --------------
> >
> > A main program that might be attached to an ldap-all jar as the java -jar
> > executable with commands to execute the standard set of LDAP operations
> > like
> > add, del, modify, modifyDn etc.
> >
> > Purpose
> > ------------
> >
> > Same purpose as in #1 plus we have something that we can ship with
> ApacheDS
> > that can be used from the command line without requiring other
> executables
> > for administrators to use.
> >
> >
> > (3) LDAP Interactive Command Line Shell
> >
> > What is it?
> > --------------
> >
> > A slick bash like shell that can be triggered from the same ldap-all
> jar's
> > java -jar executable with perhaps a shell command. The idea is to take
> the
> > shell motif in FS land over to LDAP land. This way all standard UNIX
> > commands like ls, cd, cat, etc can have analogs to navigate and
> manipulate
> > the Directory Information Tree (DIT).
> >
> > Purpose
> > ------------
> >
> > Same purpose as in #1 and #2.
> >
> > It's a cool concept, lots of fun to implement. Use OSGi to have plugins
> for
> > new commands.
> >
> > We might package it with ADS for sys admins who hate using UI's or have
> > nothing but a shell available in front of them in a data center.
> >
> > Might be something we can also put inside studio.
> >
> > Can use commands like script to record scripts that can be loaded as
> stored
> > procedures or replayed for tests. Who knows?
> >
> > On going project that can advance over time with more shell grammar
> > constructs like script control flow. That means more people will work on
> > the
> > project for a long time. Once you get in you can never leave :-). Can use
> > scripting languages like groovy and Zoerner's awesome groovy ldap api.
> >
> > <marketing-mode-off/>
> >
> > If other folks have some ideas as well please add to this list. Based on
> > the
> > progress of this thread we can add to the page of potential projects on
> our
> > site/wiki.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Alex
> >
>