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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> on 2016/12/30 01:54:02 UTC

Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,

The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html

I put together a sample submission here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141

Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
change.

John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Fantastic. Thank you, John.
Regarding voting/selection, my intent was for the general public let us know what their favorite(s) were, then the Incubator PMC (or a subset/committee) would decide on the final direction. Similar to how we did the ASF logo (Member review/feedback, followed by selection).
Does that make sense? Would you prefer something else?
-Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org> 
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Changing the form layout is fine.  I agree, having all of those extra fields isn't useful, and to be honest, they're not useful to the incubator in general.  So I just put in a ticket to get them removed from the create issue form.  I've asked to see if they can put file attachments on the create form, since that would simplify things.
Funny that you mention STeVe since Daniel was asking about it as well.  I thought we were doing a selection committee instead of a community vote?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:34 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Oh --also: we were going to have "Community Voting" as well. This is scheduled to take place the week after the submission period closes.
Is this going to be on a separate page with all the submissions (blind; images only, no names of submittors), with the STeVe voting boxes?
Thinking ahead,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

  From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org> 
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thanks, John. Apologies for the top-posting but my email client awful. Even more so with the latest "upgrades" ;-\
OK. Onto business:
I'm OK with the process because this is what we have, and I don't want to spend more time developing something that a) will be used for a limited time; and b) lies outside our core needs. So I think we should be clear(er) with the instructions --for example, "instance" was confusing to me until I got to the page. Also, we have fields that are not required for the submission but can be disorienting. Stating something along the lines of "ignore this section" would help :-)
I'll try to upload additional graphics just to test.
I originally had .pdf and .jpg in the call. If we want to swap .jpg with .png, that's fine.
What else is needed? Have I forgotten anything?
Chat soon,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org> 
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:41 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Sally,

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:27 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).

How did it compare to what you did on the wiki? 

I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apache.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.

You should be able to upload multiple files, just one file at a time.  Newer versions of JIRA allow multiple at once.
Do you need to email them?  Emails about the submission should have gone to the general@ list.  We can request infra to update the notification to also go out to the creator.
I'd recommend we look for the submissions in PDF and PNG, but that's based on my own knowledge.   

As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

Changing the form layout is fine.  I agree, having all of those extra
fields isn't useful, and to be honest, they're not useful to the incubator
in general.  So I just put in a ticket to get them removed from the create
issue form.  I've asked to see if they can put file attachments on the
create form, since that would simplify things.

Funny that you mention STeVe since Daniel was asking about it as well.  I
thought we were doing a selection committee instead of a community vote?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:34 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

> Oh --also: we were going to have "Community Voting" as well. This is
> scheduled to take place the week after the submission period closes.
>
> Is this going to be on a separate page with all the submissions (blind;
> images only, no names of submittors), with the STeVe voting boxes?
>
> Thinking ahead,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656 <(617)%20921-8656>
> gvox +1 646 598 4616 <(646)%20598-4616>
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
> *To:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:06 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thanks, John. Apologies for the top-posting but my email client awful.
> Even more so with the latest "upgrades" ;-\
>
> OK. Onto business:
>
> I'm OK with the process because this is what we have, and I don't want to
> spend more time developing something that a) will be used for a limited
> time; and b) lies outside our core needs. So I think we should be clear(er)
> with the instructions --for example, "instance" was confusing to me until I
> got to the page. Also, we have fields that are not required for the
> submission but can be disorienting. Stating something along the lines of
> "ignore this section" would help :-)
>
> I'll try to upload additional graphics just to test.
>
> I originally had .pdf and .jpg in the call. If we want to swap .jpg with
> .png, that's fine.
>
> What else is needed? Have I forgotten anything?
>
> Chat soon,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656 <(617)%20921-8656>
> gvox +1 646 598 4616 <(646)%20598-4616>
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> *To:* Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <
> general@incubator.apache.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 8:41 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Sally,
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:27 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
>
> It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is
> unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my
> day-to-day work).
>
>
> How did it compare to what you did on the wiki?
>
>
>
> I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the
> instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at
> incubator.apache.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure
> that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience.
> For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both
> .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a
> single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who
> gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing
> folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
>
>
> You should be able to upload multiple files, just one file at a time.
> Newer versions of JIRA allow multiple at once.
>
> Do you need to email them?  Emails about the submission should have gone
> to the general@ list.  We can request infra to update the notification to
> also go out to the creator.
>
> I'd recommend we look for the submissions in PDF and PNG, but that's based
> on my own knowledge.
>
>
>
> As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the
> schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
>
> Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my
> proposal above.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656
> gvox +1 646 598 4616
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
> *To:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
>
> Kind regards,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656
> gvox +1 646 598 4616
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> *To:* "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
> Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
> *Subject:* Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> All,
>
> The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> together is here:
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
>
> I put together a sample submission here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
>
> Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> change.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Oh --also: we were going to have "Community Voting" as well. This is scheduled to take place the week after the submission period closes.
Is this going to be on a separate page with all the submissions (blind; images only, no names of submittors), with the STeVe voting boxes?
Thinking ahead,Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thanks, John. Apologies for the top-posting but my email client awful. Even more so with the latest "upgrades" ;-\
OK. Onto business:
I'm OK with the process because this is what we have, and I don't want to spend more time developing something that a) will be used for a limited time; and b) lies outside our core needs. So I think we should be clear(er) with the instructions --for example, "instance" was confusing to me until I got to the page. Also, we have fields that are not required for the submission but can be disorienting. Stating something along the lines of "ignore this section" would help :-)
I'll try to upload additional graphics just to test.
I originally had .pdf and .jpg in the call. If we want to swap .jpg with .png, that's fine.
What else is needed? Have I forgotten anything?
Chat soon,
Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
To: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Sally,

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:27 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

How did it compare to what you did on the wiki?

I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apache.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.

You should be able to upload multiple files, just one file at a time. Newer versions of JIRA allow multiple at once.
Do you need to email them? Emails about the submission should have gone to the general@ list. We can request infra to update the notification to also go out to the creator.
I'd recommend we look for the submissions in PDF and PNG, but that's based on my own knowledge.

As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo. I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions. The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Sally,

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:27 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

How did it compare to what you did on the wiki?

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

Sally,

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:27 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
>
> It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is
> unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my
> day-to-day work).
>

How did it compare to what you did on the wiki?


>
> I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the
> instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at
> incubator.apache.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure
> that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience.
> For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both
> .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a
> single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who
> gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing
> folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
>

You should be able to upload multiple files, just one file at a time.
Newer versions of JIRA allow multiple at once.

Do you need to email them?  Emails about the submission should have gone to
the general@ list.  We can request infra to update the notification to also
go out to the creator.

I'd recommend we look for the submissions in PDF and PNG, but that's based
on my own knowledge.


>
> As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the
> schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
>
> Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my
> proposal above.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656 <(617)%20921-8656>
> gvox +1 646 598 4616 <(646)%20598-4616>
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
> *To:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
>
> Kind regards,
> Sally
>
> = = = = =
> vox +1 617 921 8656 <(617)%20921-8656>
> gvox +1 646 598 4616 <(646)%20598-4616>
> skype sallykhudairi
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> *To:* "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>;
> Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
> *Subject:* Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> All,
>
> The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> together is here:
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
>
> I put together a sample submission here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
>
> Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> change.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

OK thanks, John. I'll get on this today.
Chat soon,Sally


[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity]


 
 
  On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:18, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org> wrote:   Sally
The only call out I have on the blog post is to keep the links in tact.  This way users can just click through to get to resources.
I've published the incubator site, so the page is now available in production as https://incubator.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html

John
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:59 PM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Thoughts? Preferences?
Shall I post the full call on blogs.apache.org  and point to the upload instructions at incubator.apache.org? If so, please forward the URL so I can link.
I'll also send you the link to the blog post so we can point to each other.
If not, please let me know how you'd like to proceed.
Thanks,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thanks, John. Yes, the doc is open for editing. I'll double check to make sure I didn't change permissions.
The Call + guidelines need to reside _somewhere_. It can be blogs.apache.org or incubator.apache.org. Your choice.
Cheers,Sally




[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity]




 On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:24, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org> wrote:  Sally,
Could you allow for commenting on the doc?
Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on the incubator landing page? Everything?
John

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence. 
I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
Thanks for all your help with this!
-Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).
I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apach
 
e.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

Sally

The only call out I have on the blog post is to keep the links in tact.
This way users can just click through to get to resources.

I've published the incubator site, so the page is now available in
production as https://incubator.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
<http://incubator.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html>


John

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:59 PM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thoughts? Preferences?
> Shall I post the full call on blogs.apache.org  and point to the upload
> instructions at incubator.apache.org? If so, please forward the URL so I
> can link.
> I'll also send you the link to the blog post so we can point to each other.
> If not, please let me know how you'd like to proceed.
> Thanks,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype
> sallykhudairi
>
>       From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:37 PM
>  Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thanks, John. Yes, the doc is open for editing. I'll double check to make
> sure I didn't change permissions.
> The Call + guidelines need to reside _somewhere_. It can be
> blogs.apache.org or incubator.apache.org. Your choice.
> Cheers,Sally
>
>
>
>
> [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and
> brevity]
>
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:24, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:  Sally,
> Could you allow for commenting on the doc?
> Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on
> the incubator landing page? Everything?
> John
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
> Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
> We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence.
> I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy
> to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will
> point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you
> want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on
> incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on
> blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
> I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
> Thanks for all your help with this!
> -Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype
> sallykhudairi
>
>       From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>  Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
>  Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
> It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is
> unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my
> day-to-day work).
> I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the
> instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at
> incubator.apach
>
> e.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're
> asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I
> had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg
> formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue"
> ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified
> when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming
> receipt of their submissions). etc.
> As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the
> schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
> Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my
> proposal above.
> Thanks in advance,
> Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi
>
>       From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
> Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype
> sallykhudairi
>
>       From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>  To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally
> Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
>  Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> All,
> The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> together is here:
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
> I put together a sample submission here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
> Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> change.
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Thoughts? Preferences?
Shall I post the full call on blogs.apache.org  and point to the upload instructions at incubator.apache.org? If so, please forward the URL so I can link.
I'll also send you the link to the blog post so we can point to each other.
If not, please let me know how you'd like to proceed.
Thanks,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thanks, John. Yes, the doc is open for editing. I'll double check to make sure I didn't change permissions.
The Call + guidelines need to reside _somewhere_. It can be blogs.apache.org or incubator.apache.org. Your choice.
Cheers,Sally

[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity]

 On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:24, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org> wrote:  Sally,
Could you allow for commenting on the doc?
Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on the incubator landing page? Everything?
John

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence. 
I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
Thanks for all your help with this!
-Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).
I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apach

e.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Let's try that link again https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Do let me know if you're still having a problem.
Thanks,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thanks, John. Yes, the doc is open for editing. I'll double check to make sure I didn't change permissions.
The Call + guidelines need to reside _somewhere_. It can be blogs.apache.org or incubator.apache.org. Your choice.
Cheers,Sally

[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity]

 On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:24, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org> wrote:  Sally,
Could you allow for commenting on the doc?
Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on the incubator landing page? Everything?
John

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence. 
I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
Thanks for all your help with this!
-Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).
I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apach

e.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Thanks, John. Yes, the doc is open for editing. I'll double check to make sure I didn't change permissions.
The Call + guidelines need to reside _somewhere_. It can be blogs.apache.org or incubator.apache.org. Your choice.
Cheers,Sally




[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and brevity]


 
 
  On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:24, John D. Ament<jo...@apache.org> wrote:   Sally,
Could you allow for commenting on the doc?
Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on the incubator landing page? Everything?
John

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence. 
I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
Thanks for all your help with this!
-Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).
I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apach
 
e.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

Sally,

Could you allow for commenting on the doc?

Also, there's a lot of text on here, how much were you planning to put on
the incubator landing page? Everything?

John

On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
> Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
> We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence.
> I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy
> to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will
> point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you
> want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on
> incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on
> blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
> I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
> Thanks for all your help with this!
> -Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype
> sallykhudairi
>
>       From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>  Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
>  Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
> It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is
> unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my
> day-to-day work).
> I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the
> instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at
> incubator.apach <http://incubator.apache.org>



> e.org <http://incubator.apache.org>. Adjustments to the copy will be
> needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA
> upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like
> submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload
> multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get
> sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm
> supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
> As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the
> schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
> Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my
> proposal above.
> Thanks in advance,
> Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi
>
>       From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org"
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
> Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype
> sallykhudairi
>
>       From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>  To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally
> Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
>  Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions
>
> All,
> The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> together is here:
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
> I put together a sample submission here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
> Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> change.
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Hello everyone --as promised, here's the link for the revised/updated Call https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EHB06pruX7l9NTIWDrxUC8sp3n6XoEO0HxcgRW0vZ3Y/edit?usp=sharing
Feel free to suggest any additions/corrections/*.
We're aiming to announce on Tuesday 3 January, so time is of the essence.
I don't see a /Incubator directory at blogs.apache.org, so I'll be happy to post the call under the "Foundation" blog if you'd like --this will point to the full call published at the final Incubator page (currently at http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html) -- unless you want the call posted on the blog and simple entry instructions on incubator.apache.org with pointers to the call instructions on blogs.apache.org. Any preference on that?
I'll be tweeting from both the @ASFIncubator and @TheASF accounts as well.
Thanks for all your help with this!
-Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

From: Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>
To: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>; "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Hi everyone --I set up a test account and tried to do a submission.
It worked, but is non-intuitive for someone such as myself who is unfamiliar with JIRA (well, I know what it is, but don't use it in my day-to-day work).
I'd like to combine the draft call that I created in October with the instructions that John wrote so all will reside on the final page at incubator.apache.org. Adjustments to the copy will be needed to ensure that what we're asking folks to do will match the JIRA upload experience. For example, I had originally written that we'd like submissions in both .pdf and .jpg formats. I don't know if we can upload multiple images on a single "issue" ... so things like this need to get sorted out. Also, who gets notified when an issue is created (as I'm supposed to be emailing folks confirming receipt of their submissions). etc.
As such, I'll need a bit of time to work through this (and update the schedule). I'm aiming to get this done today.
Please let me know if there are any problems/issues/concerns with my proposal above.
Thanks in advance,
Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = = vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org>.

Thank you, John. I'll test this evening or tomorrow morning ET.
Kind regards,Sally = = = = =  vox +1 617 921 8656gvox +1 646 598 4616skype sallykhudairi

      From: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
 To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Sally Khudairi <sk...@apache.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 8:54 PM
 Subject: Page for gathering CFP submissions

All,
The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
I put together a sample submission here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should change.
John

Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:37 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:14 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > That doesn't work well from a permission standpoint.
> >>
> >> Can you elaborate?
> >>
> >
> > There's a permission that allows a user to attach a file and a permission
> > that would allow you to be the only one to modify your own attachment.
> I'd
> > rather not change the latter permission on the incubator JIRA, but I
> guess
> > if we wanted to we could request a new JIRA project just to capture this.
>
> I still don't understand -- the only issue here is to be able to
> essentially
> "append" new submissions. Just for kicks I tried doing it with the JIRA
> you created using a brand new account (created 2 minutes ago). It worked
> like a charm:
>    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
>
>
When you mouse over the attachments, do you see the delete icon (trash bin)?


> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:14 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > That doesn't work well from a permission standpoint.
>>
>> Can you elaborate?
>>
>
> There's a permission that allows a user to attach a file and a permission
> that would allow you to be the only one to modify your own attachment.  I'd
> rather not change the latter permission on the incubator JIRA, but I guess
> if we wanted to we could request a new JIRA project just to capture this.

I still don't understand -- the only issue here is to be able to essentially
"append" new submissions. Just for kicks I tried doing it with the JIRA
you created using a brand new account (created 2 minutes ago). It worked
like a charm:
   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:14 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > That doesn't work well from a permission standpoint.
>
> Can you elaborate?
>

There's a permission that allows a user to attach a file and a permission
that would allow you to be the only one to modify your own attachment.  I'd
rather not change the latter permission on the incubator JIRA, but I guess
if we wanted to we could request a new JIRA project just to capture this.


>
> > Do you see any harm
> > in requesting a ticket per submission, or an author updating the ticket
> w/
> > new attachments?
>
> Its not a huge deal, but it makes it a bit more daunting for somebody who's
> new to JIRA. Giving a link to an existing JIRA and saying click Attach
> is easier than explaining the JIRA creation process. Also, I seriously knew
> ppl. who would obsess about creating a new ticket for an open source
> project.
>
>
I've seen this problem as well.  But I've only seen this problem in
developers.  The logo CFP is more targeted at creative types so I think
that's going to be less of a challenge.  Considering the non-technical
nature of the incubator, I don't suspect this is going to be a big deal.


> It also is a tad more difficult to track and it doesn't allow for
> submitters to see
> each other's submissions easily (which creates a positive reinforcement
> effect).
>
>
I can include this link on the page to view all current submissions.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12339142

Its a public filter for all of the submissions.


> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:08 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> That doesn't work well from a permission standpoint.

Can you elaborate?

> Do you see any harm
> in requesting a ticket per submission, or an author updating the ticket w/
> new attachments?

Its not a huge deal, but it makes it a bit more daunting for somebody who's
new to JIRA. Giving a link to an existing JIRA and saying click Attach
is easier than explaining the JIRA creation process. Also, I seriously knew
ppl. who would obsess about creating a new ticket for an open source project.

It also is a tad more difficult to track and it doesn't allow for
submitters to see
each other's submissions easily (which creates a positive reinforcement effect).

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.

That doesn't work well from a permission standpoint.  Do you see any harm
in requesting a ticket per submission, or an author updating the ticket w/
new attachments?

John

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:58 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> I'm confused. I thought the idea is to have a single JIRA ticket with
> all contestants attaching their artwork to it. No?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> > Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> > instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> > together is here:
> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
> >
> > I put together a sample submission here:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
> >
> > Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> > change.
> >
> > John
>
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Re: Page for gathering CFP submissions

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.

I'm confused. I thought the idea is to have a single JIRA ticket with
all contestants attaching their artwork to it. No?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 5:54 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> All,
>
> The IPMC (and Press department) will be announcing soon a CFP for a new
> Incubator logo.  I'd like to solicit some input on a page and set of
> instructions to follow to gather these submissions.  The page I've put
> together is here: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/2017-logo-contest.html
>
> I put together a sample submission here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-141
>
> Please feel free to review, critique, test it and let me know what should
> change.
>
> John

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