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[DISCUSS] Process for a new org to join a working group
Hi all,
Reposting with a clearer subject.
I'm Ramya from Tellius, an enterprise agentic analytics platform with a
governed semantic layer. We'd like to become a contributing member of a
working group and start participating.
I've read through CONTRIBUTING.md and the spec, which cover how to
contribute code and changes, but I couldn't find how the working groups
work. Please help me with the following:
1. How does an organization join a working group and start
participating. Is there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where
are they announced?
2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active participant?
I'd like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
Thanks,
Ramya
Re: [DISCUSS] Process for a new org to join a working group
Posted by Ramya Priya via dev <de...@ossie.apache.org>.
Hi Quigley and JB,
Thank you both; that's genuinely helpful, and the individual-participation
framing makes sense. Good to have it laid out clearly.
The spec review suggestion is a great place for me to start. I've joined
Slack and added the calendar. If there's a meeting you'd suggest a newcomer
sit in on first, I'd appreciate the pointer.
Thanks for the welcome,
Ramya
On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 10:52 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
> Hi Ramya,
>
> I echo Quigley's points: everyone participates as an individual, and
> you are welcome to join any discussion. The project is completely
> vendor-neutral.
>
> Regarding the term "active participant," we follow the Apache Way,
> which recognizes merit based on your ongoing contributions. All types
> of contributions are welcome, and the merit you earn does not expire.
>
> Regards,
> JB
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 7:00 AM Quigley Malcolm <q...@quigleymalcolm.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ramya,
> >
> > Welcome to the project! Thanks for asking these questions; it's a good
> indicator that we should make some updates to the CONTRIBUTING.md
> >
> > One framing note up front: at ASF, people participate as individuals
> rather than as companies. Many contributors have an affiliation with an
> organization, but there's no notion of an organization joining a working
> group or holding a seat. So the practical version of your question is how
> you and your colleagues get involved, which fortunately is easy :)
> >
> > > 1. How does an organization join a working group and start
> participating. Is
> > > there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where are they
> announced?
> >
> > There's nothing to join and no lead to ask, just show up. This list (dev@)
> is where the project's work actually happens and where decisions are made,
> so subscribing to it is step one.
> >
> > Working group meetings are open to anyone, and the schedule is on this
> calendar:
> >
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0?cid=YTM0ZjAxM2U4ZDhmOWNkYTQxOWM2NmFmODlhYjQ3NDg4NjQ0ZDczNWZkZmUzYjBjYjJjZWQ5MGE4ODBhMmE5NUBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t
> >
> > We also have a Slack for informal chatter:
> >
> https://join.slack.com/t/apache-ossie/shared_invite/zt-3xcrekoth-bLhaMB~TFjsMLbv1~iIc6g
> >
> > > 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active
> participant? I'd
> > > like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
> >
> > I don't believe "active participant" is a term ASF uses, though I'm
> still newer to ASF processes, so it might be that I just haven't found that
> documentation.
> >
> > What ASF does define is what counts as a contribution, and the answer is
> deliberately broad: the Apache Project Maturity Model (criterion CO30)
> includes documentation, constructive bug reports, constructive discussion,
> and marketing alongside source code, plus anything else that adds value.
> CO40 and CO50 cover how sustained contribution turns into committer status
> and decision-making rights over time:
> >
> >
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html#community
> >
> > So there's no wrong direction to settle on. If you want a concrete
> starting point, reviewing the spec and telling us where it doesn't fit a
> governed semantic layer in practice would be genuinely useful to us right
> now.
> >
> > Hope that helps!
> > Quigley
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 28th, 2026 at 8:10 AM, Ramya Priya via dev <
> dev@ossie.apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Reposting with a clearer subject.
> > >
> > > I'm Ramya from Tellius, an enterprise agentic analytics platform with a
> > > governed semantic layer. We'd like to become a contributing member of a
> > > working group and start participating.
> > >
> > > I've read through CONTRIBUTING.md and the spec, which cover how to
> > > contribute code and changes, but I couldn't find how the working groups
> > > work. Please help me with the following:
> > >
> > > 1. How does an organization join a working group and start
> > > participating. Is there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and
> where
> > > are they announced?
> > > 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active
> participant?
> > > I'd like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ramya
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Process for a new org to join a working group
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Ramya,
I echo Quigley's points: everyone participates as an individual, and
you are welcome to join any discussion. The project is completely
vendor-neutral.
Regarding the term "active participant," we follow the Apache Way,
which recognizes merit based on your ongoing contributions. All types
of contributions are welcome, and the merit you earn does not expire.
Regards,
JB
On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 7:00 AM Quigley Malcolm <q...@quigleymalcolm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ramya,
>
> Welcome to the project! Thanks for asking these questions; it's a good indicator that we should make some updates to the CONTRIBUTING.md
>
> One framing note up front: at ASF, people participate as individuals rather than as companies. Many contributors have an affiliation with an organization, but there's no notion of an organization joining a working group or holding a seat. So the practical version of your question is how you and your colleagues get involved, which fortunately is easy :)
>
> > 1. How does an organization join a working group and start participating. Is
> > there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where are they announced?
>
> There's nothing to join and no lead to ask, just show up. This list (dev@) is where the project's work actually happens and where decisions are made, so subscribing to it is step one.
>
> Working group meetings are open to anyone, and the schedule is on this calendar:
> https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0?cid=YTM0ZjAxM2U4ZDhmOWNkYTQxOWM2NmFmODlhYjQ3NDg4NjQ0ZDczNWZkZmUzYjBjYjJjZWQ5MGE4ODBhMmE5NUBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t
>
> We also have a Slack for informal chatter:
> https://join.slack.com/t/apache-ossie/shared_invite/zt-3xcrekoth-bLhaMB~TFjsMLbv1~iIc6g
>
> > 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active participant? I'd
> > like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
>
> I don't believe "active participant" is a term ASF uses, though I'm still newer to ASF processes, so it might be that I just haven't found that documentation.
>
> What ASF does define is what counts as a contribution, and the answer is deliberately broad: the Apache Project Maturity Model (criterion CO30) includes documentation, constructive bug reports, constructive discussion, and marketing alongside source code, plus anything else that adds value. CO40 and CO50 cover how sustained contribution turns into committer status and decision-making rights over time:
>
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html#community
>
> So there's no wrong direction to settle on. If you want a concrete starting point, reviewing the spec and telling us where it doesn't fit a governed semantic layer in practice would be genuinely useful to us right now.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Quigley
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 28th, 2026 at 8:10 AM, Ramya Priya via dev <de...@ossie.apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Reposting with a clearer subject.
> >
> > I'm Ramya from Tellius, an enterprise agentic analytics platform with a
> > governed semantic layer. We'd like to become a contributing member of a
> > working group and start participating.
> >
> > I've read through CONTRIBUTING.md and the spec, which cover how to
> > contribute code and changes, but I couldn't find how the working groups
> > work. Please help me with the following:
> >
> > 1. How does an organization join a working group and start
> > participating. Is there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where
> > are they announced?
> > 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active participant?
> > I'd like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ramya
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Process for a new org to join a working group
Posted by Quigley Malcolm <q...@quigleymalcolm.com>.
Hi Ramya,
Welcome to the project! Thanks for asking these questions; it's a good indicator that we should make some updates to the CONTRIBUTING.md
One framing note up front: at ASF, people participate as individuals rather than as companies. Many contributors have an affiliation with an organization, but there's no notion of an organization joining a working group or holding a seat. So the practical version of your question is how you and your colleagues get involved, which fortunately is easy :)
> 1. How does an organization join a working group and start participating. Is
> there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where are they announced?
There's nothing to join and no lead to ask, just show up. This list (dev@) is where the project's work actually happens and where decisions are made, so subscribing to it is step one.
Working group meetings are open to anyone, and the schedule is on this calendar:
https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0?cid=YTM0ZjAxM2U4ZDhmOWNkYTQxOWM2NmFmODlhYjQ3NDg4NjQ0ZDczNWZkZmUzYjBjYjJjZWQ5MGE4ODBhMmE5NUBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t
We also have a Slack for informal chatter:
https://join.slack.com/t/apache-ossie/shared_invite/zt-3xcrekoth-bLhaMB~TFjsMLbv1~iIc6g
> 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active participant? I'd
> like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
I don't believe "active participant" is a term ASF uses, though I'm still newer to ASF processes, so it might be that I just haven't found that documentation.
What ASF does define is what counts as a contribution, and the answer is deliberately broad: the Apache Project Maturity Model (criterion CO30) includes documentation, constructive bug reports, constructive discussion, and marketing alongside source code, plus anything else that adds value. CO40 and CO50 cover how sustained contribution turns into committer status and decision-making rights over time:
https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html#community
So there's no wrong direction to settle on. If you want a concrete starting point, reviewing the spec and telling us where it doesn't fit a governed semantic layer in practice would be genuinely useful to us right now.
Hope that helps!
Quigley
On Tuesday, July 28th, 2026 at 8:10 AM, Ramya Priya via dev <de...@ossie.apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Reposting with a clearer subject.
>
> I'm Ramya from Tellius, an enterprise agentic analytics platform with a
> governed semantic layer. We'd like to become a contributing member of a
> working group and start participating.
>
> I've read through CONTRIBUTING.md and the spec, which cover how to
> contribute code and changes, but I couldn't find how the working groups
> work. Please help me with the following:
>
> 1. How does an organization join a working group and start
> participating. Is there a lead to approach, are meetings open, and where
> are they announced?
> 2. What kinds of contribution count toward being an active participant?
> I'd like to understand the options before settling on a direction.
>
> Thanks,
> Ramya
>