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maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Hi,
I stumbled over a small thing.
The page about the default folder layout
https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
src/main/assembly/
So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for that ?
In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
as mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
src/main/assembly/ descriptors) or we should change the above description..
What do you thing ? Ideas ?
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
It could be used for build-time configuration files, which are not part of
the artifact / shouldn't be available on the classpath. I've never used it.
I think it's too rare, so I agree that it can be removed.
Robert
Op Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:57:43 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
<kh...@gmx.de>:
> Hi,
>
> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>
>> /src/main
>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>
>> /src/test
>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>
>> /src/it
>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for
>> plugins)
>>
>> /src/assembly
>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>>
>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>
>
> What i missed:
>
> What is about
>
> src/main/config ?
>
> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i
> can't remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Mirko,
>> so someone should maybe file an issue in the
>> appassembler-maven-plugin, I think the layout you provided is
>> reasonable.
Why for the appassembler-maven-plugin ? It currently uses src/config ?
Should appassembler-maven-plugin stop using src/config ?
Hm...
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
> done so.
That's of course rubbish ...
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNGSITE-195
I meant for the site to be updated...
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>> Regards Mirko
>> --
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise
>> <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hello Dennis,
>>>
>>>
>>>> src/main/config is used as the default value for configuration files
>>>>
>>>> in appassembler-maven-plugin @Mojo.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah damn...Just forgot about that...;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks for that hint.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>>> <kh...@gmx.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /src/main
>>>>>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /src/test
>>>>>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on
>>>>>> naming
>>>>>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /src/it
>>>>>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for
>>>>>> plugins)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /src/assembly
>>>>>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property
>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What i missed:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is about
>>>>>
>>>>> src/main/config ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i
>>>>> can't
>>>>> remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>>>>>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Mirko,
> Karl-Heinz,
>
> so someone should maybe file an issue in the
> appassembler-maven-plugin, I think the layout you provided is
> reasonable.
done so.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNGSITE-195
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
> Regards Mirko
> --
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> https://github.com/mfriedenhagen/ (http://osrc.dfm.io/mfriedenhagen)
> https://bitbucket.org/mfriedenhagen/
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hello Dennis,
>>
>>
>>> src/main/config is used as the default value for configuration files
>>>
>>> in appassembler-maven-plugin @Mojo.
>>
>>
>> Ah damn...Just forgot about that...;-)
>>
>> Thanks for that hint.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> /src/main
>>>>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>>>>
>>>>> /src/test
>>>>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on
>>>>> naming
>>>>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>>>>
>>>>> /src/it
>>>>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for
>>>>> plugins)
>>>>>
>>>>> /src/assembly
>>>>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>>>>>
>>>>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What i missed:
>>>>
>>>> What is about
>>>>
>>>> src/main/config ?
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i
>>>> can't
>>>> remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>> Kind regards
>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>
>>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Mirko Friedenhagen <mf...@gmail.com>.
Karl-Heinz,
so someone should maybe file an issue in the
appassembler-maven-plugin, I think the layout you provided is
reasonable.
Regards Mirko
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello Dennis,
>
>
>> src/main/config is used as the default value for configuration files
>>
>> in appassembler-maven-plugin @Mojo.
>
>
> Ah damn...Just forgot about that...;-)
>
> Thanks for that hint.
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>>>
>>>> /src/main
>>>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>>>
>>>> /src/test
>>>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on
>>>> naming
>>>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>>>
>>>> /src/it
>>>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for
>>>> plugins)
>>>>
>>>> /src/assembly
>>>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>>>>
>>>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What i missed:
>>>
>>> What is about
>>>
>>> src/main/config ?
>>>
>>> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i
>>> can't
>>> remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>>>
>>>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hello Dennis,
> src/main/config is used as the default value for configuration files
> in appassembler-maven-plugin @Mojo.
Ah damn...Just forgot about that...;-)
Thanks for that hint.
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>>
>>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>>
>>> /src/main
>>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>>
>>> /src/test
>>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
>>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>>
>>> /src/it
>>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
>>>
>>> /src/assembly
>>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>>>
>>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>>
>>
>> What i missed:
>>
>> What is about
>>
>> src/main/config ?
>>
>> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i can't
>> remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>>
>>
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Mirko Friedenhagen <mf...@gmail.com>.
Hello Karl-Heinz,
I thought you said appassembler would put configs wrongly into
src/main/config instead of src/config. Now it seems the stuff is included
in the artifact. IMO stuff going into the artifact should be beneath
src/main while configs for e.g. plugins should go to src/config (say
checkstyle excludes)..
Regards
Mirko
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On Mar 14, 2014 10:58 PM, "Dennis Lundberg" <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did you change from src/main/config to src/config on purpose?
>
> In this case (i.e. when using the appassembler plugin) it really
> should be src/main/config, because the contents of that directory will
> end up in the main artifact. Similar to resources which might not be
> required at compile time, but will be required at runtime.
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > so based on the discussion we can conclude the result as follows:
> >
> >
> > src/main
> > * are files required during compile time (production)
> >
> > src/main/java
> > src/main/resources
> > src/main/filters
> >
> >
> > src/test
> > * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
> > schema we could also have integration tests here)
> >
> > src/test/java
> > src/test/resources
> > src/test/filters
> >
> >
> > src/it
> > * are files required during integration tests
> > (primarily for plugins)
> >
> > src/assembly
> > * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
> >
> > src/config
> > * for configuration files.
> >
> > src/main/filters
> > * Resource filter files
> >
> > src/main/scripts
> > * Application/Library scripts
> >
> > src/main/webapp
> > * Web application sources
> >
> > src/site
> > * Maven Site
> >
> > So the default folder layout site should be updated.
> >
> > src/it is currently not on the site in any way...
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl-Heinz Marbaise
> >
> >
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Did you change from src/main/config to src/config on purpose?
In this case (i.e. when using the appassembler plugin) it really
should be src/main/config, because the contents of that directory will
end up in the main artifact. Similar to resources which might not be
required at compile time, but will be required at runtime.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> so based on the discussion we can conclude the result as follows:
>
>
> src/main
> * are files required during compile time (production)
>
> src/main/java
> src/main/resources
> src/main/filters
>
>
> src/test
> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>
> src/test/java
> src/test/resources
> src/test/filters
>
>
> src/it
> * are files required during integration tests
> (primarily for plugins)
>
> src/assembly
> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>
> src/config
> * for configuration files.
>
> src/main/filters
> * Resource filter files
>
> src/main/scripts
> * Application/Library scripts
>
> src/main/webapp
> * Web application sources
>
> src/site
> * Maven Site
>
> So the default folder layout site should be updated.
>
> src/it is currently not on the site in any way...
>
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi,
so based on the discussion we can conclude the result as follows:
src/main
* are files required during compile time (production)
src/main/java
src/main/resources
src/main/filters
src/test
* are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
schema we could also have integration tests here)
src/test/java
src/test/resources
src/test/filters
src/it
* are files required during integration tests
(primarily for plugins)
src/assembly
* for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
src/config
* for configuration files.
src/main/filters
* Resource filter files
src/main/scripts
* Application/Library scripts
src/main/webapp
* Web application sources
src/site
* Maven Site
So the default folder layout site should be updated.
src/it is currently not on the site in any way...
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
src/main/config is used as the default value for configuration files
in appassembler-maven-plugin @Mojo.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
>>
>> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>>
>> /src/main
>> * are files required during compile time (production)
>>
>> /src/test
>> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
>> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>>
>> /src/it
>> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
>>
>> /src/assembly
>> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>>
>> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>>
>
> What i missed:
>
> What is about
>
> src/main/config ?
>
> I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i can't
> remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi,
On 3/9/14 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>
> /src/main
> * are files required during compile time (production)
>
> /src/test
> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>
> /src/it
> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
>
> /src/assembly
> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>
> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>
What i missed:
What is about
src/main/config ?
I would suggest to remove it from the default folder layout, cause i
can't remember a case where it is used ? Someone else?
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz Marbaise
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Michael,
>
> You forgot: src/site.
No, cause it's already part of the default folder layout.
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Michael,
>
> Always use a relative path in the docs otherwise it could be
> misinterpreted.
Of course you are right..
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Michael-O <19...@gmx.net>.
Am 2014-03-09 21:02, schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise:
> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>
> /src/main
> * are files required during compile time (production)
>
> /src/test
> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>
> /src/it
> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
>
> /src/assembly
> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>
> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
+1
You forgot: src/site.
Always use a relative path in the docs otherwise it could be misinterpreted.
Michael
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net>.
Sounds good to me.
/Anders
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>wrote:
> So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
>
> /src/main
> * are files required during compile time (production)
>
> /src/test
> * are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
> schema we could also have integration tests here)
>
> /src/it
> * are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
>
> /src/assembly
> * for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
>
> The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
>
> Should we start a VOTE for this ?
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
So based on the discussion could we go with the following:
/src/main
* are files required during compile time (production)
/src/test
* are files required during test time (unit testing; based on naming
schema we could also have integration tests here)
/src/it
* are files required during integration tests (primarily for plugins)
/src/assembly
* for assembly descriptors and appropriate filter property files.
The /src/it/ should be added to the default folder layout page.
Should we start a VOTE for this ?
Kind regards
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Robert,
> I've changed the location and published the site
>
> Robert
You have been faster than I ;-)
Kind regards
Karl-Heinz
>
> Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 00:14:02 +0100 schreef Hervé BOUTEMY
> <he...@free.fr>:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hervé
>>
>> Le vendredi 7 mars 2014 20:25:04 Robert Scholte a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
>>> be the default.
>>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>>> otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
>>> wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>>
>>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I stumbled over a small thing.
>>> >
>>> > The page about the default folder layout
>>> >
>>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard->
>>> > directory-layout.html
>>> >
>>> > mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>> >
>>> > src/main/assembly/
>>> >
>>> > So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>>> > maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for
>>> that
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> > In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
>>> > as mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>>> > src/main/assembly/ descriptors) or we should change the above
>>> > description..
>>> >
>>> > What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards
>>> > Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>> >
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
I've changed the location and published the site
Robert
Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 00:14:02 +0100 schreef Hervé BOUTEMY
<he...@free.fr>:
> +1
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le vendredi 7 mars 2014 20:25:04 Robert Scholte a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
>> be the default.
>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>> otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
>> wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>
>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I stumbled over a small thing.
>> >
>> > The page about the default folder layout
>> >
>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard->
>> > directory-layout.html
>> >
>> > mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>> >
>> > src/main/assembly/
>> >
>> > So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>> > maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for
>> that
>> > ?
>> >
>> > In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
>> > as mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>> > src/main/assembly/ descriptors) or we should change the above
>> > description..
>> >
>> > What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>> >
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
+1
Regards,
Hervé
Le vendredi 7 mars 2014 20:25:04 Robert Scholte a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
> be the default.
> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
> otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
> wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
>
> Robert
>
> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
> <kh...@gmx.de>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I stumbled over a small thing.
> >
> > The page about the default folder layout
> > https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-> > directory-layout.html
> >
> > mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
> >
> > src/main/assembly/
> >
> > So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
> > maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for that
> > ?
> >
> > In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
> > as mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
> > src/main/assembly/ descriptors) or we should change the above
> > description..
> >
> > What do you thing ? Ideas ?
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl-Heinz Marbaise
> >
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi Michael,
I do not want to enforce any real or precieved connection between a
phase and an assembly. As you say, there is no such thing for
assemblies. They are either triggered implicitly during the package
phase och explicitly using an execution.
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> Am 2014-03-08 22:24, schrieb Dennis Lundberg:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
>> documented default directory.
>>
>> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
>> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
>> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
>> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
>> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
>
>
> Dennis,
>
> neither do you have src/main/site and other resembling structures. There is
> no way to enforce that this "assembly" is part of a test cycle, moreover
> such a notion does not exist for assemblies.
>
> Michael
>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2014-03-08 22:24, schrieb Dennis Lundberg:
> Hi
>
> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
> documented default directory.
>
> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
Dennis,
neither do you have src/main/site and other resembling structures. There
is no way to enforce that this "assembly" is part of a test cycle,
moreover such a notion does not exist for assemblies.
Michael
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi Robert,
I think we are talking past each other here. From what you are writing
we seem to agree that having an assembly for stuff in the src/test
directory doesn't make little sense.
I'm not opposed to changing things that are not working well. I'm just
trying to make sure that the change will benefit our users, and also
it does not lead to more support issues than we have today.
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> I would call it advancing insight. I can't think of an assembly which is
> only for unittesting (due to the src/test folder) and won't be attached the
> the MavenProject for deployment.
>
> For users it would make it clear:
> everything under /src/main are files required during compile time
> everything under /src/test are files required during test time
> everything under /src/it are files required during integration tests
> assembly descriptors doesn't cover one of these, so it should have its own
> folder.
>
> While Maven-core uses src/main/assembly for years doesn't mean that we could
> adjust our advice.
>
> Robert
>
> Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 23:57:06 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
> <de...@apache.org>:
>
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> I was not thinking about scope here, just the directory structure of
>> the project.
>>
>> We've used src/main/assembly for years now. Maven-core has its
>> assembly descriptors in src/main/assembly. It seems strange to
>> suddenly change it. In what way would our users benefit from this
>> change?
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> an assembly will always result in an attachment, but there's no such
>>> thing
>>> as attaching with a scope.
>>> For that reason I wouldn't separate the assembly descriptors, it might
>>> cause
>>> invalid assumptions.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:24:10 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
>>> <de...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
>>>> documented default directory.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
>>>> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
>>>> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
>>>> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
>>>> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> the default.
>>>>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>>>>> otherwise
>>>>> it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I wouldn't
>>>>> separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>>>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I stumbled over a small thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page about the default folder layout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>>>>>> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>>>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>>>> descriptors) or we should change the above description..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
I would call it advancing insight. I can't think of an assembly which is
only for unittesting (due to the src/test folder) and won't be attached
the the MavenProject for deployment.
For users it would make it clear:
everything under /src/main are files required during compile time
everything under /src/test are files required during test time
everything under /src/it are files required during integration tests
assembly descriptors doesn't cover one of these, so it should have its own
folder.
While Maven-core uses src/main/assembly for years doesn't mean that we
could adjust our advice.
Robert
Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 23:57:06 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
<de...@apache.org>:
> Hi Robert,
>
> I was not thinking about scope here, just the directory structure of
> the project.
>
> We've used src/main/assembly for years now. Maven-core has its
> assembly descriptors in src/main/assembly. It seems strange to
> suddenly change it. In what way would our users benefit from this
> change?
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> an assembly will always result in an attachment, but there's no such
>> thing
>> as attaching with a scope.
>> For that reason I wouldn't separate the assembly descriptors, it might
>> cause
>> invalid assumptions.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:24:10 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
>> <de...@apache.org>:
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
>>> documented default directory.
>>>
>>> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
>>> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
>>> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
>>> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
>>> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> the default.
>>>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>>>> otherwise
>>>> it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I wouldn't
>>>> separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I stumbled over a small thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The page about the default folder layout
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>>>>>
>>>>> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>>>>
>>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>>>
>>>>> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but
>>>>> the
>>>>> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for
>>>>> that
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default
>>>>> location
>>>>> as
>>>>> mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>>> descriptors) or we should change the above description..
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>>>>
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Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi Robert,
I was not thinking about scope here, just the directory structure of
the project.
We've used src/main/assembly for years now. Maven-core has its
assembly descriptors in src/main/assembly. It seems strange to
suddenly change it. In what way would our users benefit from this
change?
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
>
> an assembly will always result in an attachment, but there's no such thing
> as attaching with a scope.
> For that reason I wouldn't separate the assembly descriptors, it might cause
> invalid assumptions.
>
> Robert
>
>
> Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:24:10 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
> <de...@apache.org>:
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
>> documented default directory.
>>
>> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
>> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
>> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
>> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
>> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
>>> be
>>> the default.
>>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>>> otherwise
>>> it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I wouldn't
>>> separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I stumbled over a small thing.
>>>>
>>>> The page about the default folder layout
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>>>>
>>>> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>>>
>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>>
>>>> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>>>> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for that
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
>>>> as
>>>> mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>> descriptors) or we should change the above description..
>>>>
>>>> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>>>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
Hi Dennis,
an assembly will always result in an attachment, but there's no such thing
as attaching with a scope.
For that reason I wouldn't separate the assembly descriptors, it might
cause invalid assumptions.
Robert
Op Sat, 08 Mar 2014 22:24:10 +0100 schreef Dennis Lundberg
<de...@apache.org>:
> Hi
>
> I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
> documented default directory.
>
> It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
> be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
> assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
> someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
> would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have
>> to be
>> the default.
>> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
>> otherwise
>> it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I wouldn't
>> separate the descriptors into different folders.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
>> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I stumbled over a small thing.
>>>
>>> The page about the default folder layout
>>>
>>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>>>
>>> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>>
>>> src/main/assembly/
>>>
>>> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>>> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for
>>> that ?
>>>
>>> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
>>> as
>>> mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
>>> src/main/assembly/
>>> descriptors) or we should change the above description..
>>>
>>> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>>
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Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Hi
I agree with Karl Heinz that the Assembly Plugin should support the
documented default directory.
It seems that we disagree about what the preferred directory should
be. I think it should be src/main/assembly/ because almost all
assemblies I have ever seen are for the main part of a project. If
someone wanted to create an assembly for the test part of a project I
would recommend to place the assembly descriptor in src/test/assembly.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to be
> the default.
> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/, otherwise
> it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I wouldn't
> separate the descriptors into different folders.
>
> Robert
>
> Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
> <kh...@gmx.de>:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I stumbled over a small thing.
>>
>> The page about the default folder layout
>>
>> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>>
>> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>>
>> src/main/assembly/
>>
>> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
>> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for that ?
>>
>> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location as
>> mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for src/main/assembly/
>> descriptors) or we should change the above description..
>>
>> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>>
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Michael Osipov <19...@gmx.net>.
Am 2014-03-07 20:25, schrieb Robert Scholte:
> Hi,
>
> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
> be the default.
> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
> otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
> wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
+1
That's the first thing which came to my mind too.
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Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2014-03-07 20:25, schrieb Robert Scholte:
> Hi,
>
> This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
> be the default.
> I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
> otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
> wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
+1
That's the first thing which came to my mind too.
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Re: maven-assembly-plugin / Maven default folder layout
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
Hi,
This is the standard (preferred) directory layout, so it doesn't have to
be the default.
I actually think that src/main/assembly/ should be src/assembly/,
otherwise it would imply that there can also be a src/test/assembly/. I
wouldn't separate the descriptors into different folders.
Robert
Op Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:14:48 +0100 schreef Karl Heinz Marbaise
<kh...@gmx.de>:
> Hi,
>
> I stumbled over a small thing.
>
> The page about the default folder layout
> https://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
>
> mentioned a location for the maven-assembly-plugin descriptors:
>
> src/main/assembly/
>
> So the location is a suggestion to locate assembly descriptors but the
> maven-assembly-plugin itself does not have such a default value for that
> ?
>
> In my opinion the maven-assembly-plugin should have a default location
> as mentioned above (descriptors default value to search for
> src/main/assembly/ descriptors) or we should change the above
> description..
>
> What do you thing ? Ideas ?
>
> Kind regards
> Karl-Heinz Marbaise
>
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