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Posted to docs@httpd.apache.org by Igor Galić <i....@brainsware.org> on 2011/06/12 23:43:36 UTC
Admin Group for Wiki
Hey folks,
it seems the easiest way to prevent the spam on the wiki, is
to have dedicated Admins. I know this isn't the way a wiki should
be, but we currently have no sane way of spam prevention.
The SpamAssassin wiki already has it, and ConCom is currently heading
in the same direction. I would like to get some feedback from you
guys before green-lighting infra to enable that feature for us as well
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ContributorsGroup
http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/AdminGroup
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Re: Admin Group for Wiki
Posted by Igor Galić <i....@brainsware.org>.
----- Original Message -----
> On 6/12/2011 4:43 PM, Igor Galić wrote:
> > it seems the easiest way to prevent the spam on the wiki, is
> > to have dedicated Admins. I know this isn't the way a wiki should
> > be, but we currently have no sane way of spam prevention.
> >
>
>
> Can you elaborate on the level of inconvenience this limitation will
> add? Is this one of those review-accounts-before-creation kinds of
> things or review-posts-before-accepting kinds of things? Are there
> other
> options for review? I would be willing to volunteer time to assist if
> the group collectively decides to follow this idea.
>
> As far as the question posed goes, it would seem to me that the ratio
> of
> spam to/valuable content is rather high. The unfortunate reality is
> that
> there are enough Bad Guys on the Internet that ruin things for
> everyone
> and most public forums, wikis and blogs have some form of moderation
> to
> combat this. As long as adding moderation doesn't make it *difficult*
> to
> contribute, I feel that users would understand.
For explanation, this is how it's done:
http://wiki.apache.org/general/OurWikiFarm
> P.S.
> I administer some MediaWiki sites, but no MoinMoin powered wiki's.
> What
> is the preferred method of moderation? Something built-in or an
> extension?
Seems like it:
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinQuestions/Administration#Access_Control
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Re: Admin Group for Wiki
Posted by Daniel Ruggeri <DR...@primary.net>.
On 6/12/2011 4:43 PM, Igor Galić wrote:
> it seems the easiest way to prevent the spam on the wiki, is
> to have dedicated Admins. I know this isn't the way a wiki should
> be, but we currently have no sane way of spam prevention.
>
Can you elaborate on the level of inconvenience this limitation will
add? Is this one of those review-accounts-before-creation kinds of
things or review-posts-before-accepting kinds of things? Are there other
options for review? I would be willing to volunteer time to assist if
the group collectively decides to follow this idea.
As far as the question posed goes, it would seem to me that the ratio of
spam to/valuable content is rather high. The unfortunate reality is that
there are enough Bad Guys on the Internet that ruin things for everyone
and most public forums, wikis and blogs have some form of moderation to
combat this. As long as adding moderation doesn't make it *difficult* to
contribute, I feel that users would understand.
P.S.
I administer some MediaWiki sites, but no MoinMoin powered wiki's. What
is the preferred method of moderation? Something built-in or an extension?
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Re: Admin Group for Wiki
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Igor Galić wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> it seems the easiest way to prevent the spam on the wiki, is
> to have dedicated Admins. I know this isn't the way a wiki should
> be, but we currently have no sane way of spam prevention.
>
> The SpamAssassin wiki already has it, and ConCom is currently heading
> in the same direction. I would like to get some feedback from you
> guys before green-lighting infra to enable that feature for us as well
I'm torn. Philosophically, I'm opposed to this, because it limits the one easy way we have for folks to contribute to the docs without jumping through a lot of hoops. However, in reality, how many people have we *ever* had contribute valuable content to the wiki from outside the group that's already on the mailing list. I don't know the answer to this, and I think that answer is important to this decision. On the one hand, we need to have some easy way for folks to contribute to the docs. On the other hand, it's my perception that nobody ever has. So I suppose it's a wash.
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