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Posted to dev@avalon.apache.org by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de> on 2004/03/09 09:52:41 UTC
Excalibur i18n vs. Avalon Util i18n
Hi,
what's the purpose of duplicating the i18n code from excalibur,
repackaging it and putting it in Avalon Util?
Imho this creates too much confusion and duplicated code and
by the end noone knows what package is the current one.
Carsten
Carsten Ziegeler
Open Source Group, S&N AG
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RE: Excalibur i18n vs. Avalon Util i18n
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>
> util/i18n at the moment is not an API, as in "stable".
> Deprecation should not follow until the API is stable, and
> can be announced out as the replacement for the deprecation.
>
Oh, yes, you're right.
> > > Expect the same fate for excalibur-configuration.
> > Yes, I expected this :)
> > And plese also do this for excalibur-logger (my current favorite).
>
> excalibur-logger is a bit of 'too big' for me... IIUC,
> avalon/logging IS replacing excalibur-logger. So we would be
> talking about the official deprecation and all of that, right?
>
Yepp :)
Carsten
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Re: Excalibur i18n vs. Avalon Util i18n
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 17:49, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Ok, so the plan is to first move/copy the package and then perhaps
> change it to reflect merlin's needs, right? I understand.
Right.
> What do you think of deprecating the excalibur version. It's not
> maintained anyway and gives the users a clear statement.
util/i18n at the moment is not an API, as in "stable". Deprecation should not
follow until the API is stable, and can be announced out as the replacement
for the deprecation.
> > Expect the same fate for excalibur-configuration.
> Yes, I expected this :)
> And plese also do this for excalibur-logger (my current favorite).
excalibur-logger is a bit of 'too big' for me... IIUC, avalon/logging IS
replacing excalibur-logger. So we would be talking about the official
deprecation and all of that, right?
Niclas
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RE: Excalibur i18n vs. Avalon Util i18n
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Niclas Hedhman [mailto:niclas@hedhman.org] wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 09 March 2004 16:52, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> > what's the purpose of duplicating the i18n code from excalibur,
> > repackaging it and putting it in Avalon Util?
>
> The purpose is for you not to notice :o)
>
:)
> Seriously, I want to rip away Merlin from being dependent on
> excalibur-xxx, to allow extensions of these without to worry
> about what else may or may not break with it.
> For instance,
> why is there a Security check for clearing the cache, but
> nothing else? Why is there all these half-meaningless
> getDouble(), yet no support for important stuff like images and sound?
Ok, so the plan is to first move/copy the package and then perhaps
change it to reflect merlin's needs, right? I understand.
What do you think of deprecating the excalibur version. It's not
maintained anyway and gives the users a clear statement.
>
> Expect the same fate for excalibur-configuration.
>
Yes, I expected this :)
And plese also do this for excalibur-logger (my current favorite).
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Re: Excalibur i18n vs. Avalon Util i18n
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 16:52, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> what's the purpose of duplicating the i18n code from excalibur,
> repackaging it and putting it in Avalon Util?
The purpose is for you not to notice :o)
Seriously, I want to rip away Merlin from being dependent on excalibur-xxx, to
allow extensions of these without to worry about what else may or may not
break with it. For instance, why is there a Security check for clearing the
cache, but nothing else? Why is there all these half-meaningless getDouble(),
yet no support for important stuff like images and sound?
Expect the same fate for excalibur-configuration.
Cheers
Niclas
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