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Posted to dev@kafka.apache.org by Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> on 2017/02/03 10:38:33 UTC
[DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Hi all,
I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
instead of the next minor version.
2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable policy.
4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
June 2017.
Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
Thanks,
Ismael
[1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Onur Karaman <ok...@linkedin.com.INVALID>.
LGTM.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Tom Crayford <tc...@heroku.com> wrote:
> This is great, thanks.
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Dongjin Lee <do...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > It also makes sense to me. Thanks for your great work, Ismael.
> >
> > Add to this, it seems like there should be some following work on
> utilizing
> > some parts of the code by applying Java 8's features.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dongjin
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Makes sense.
> > >
> > > Eno
> > >
> > > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > > >
> > > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > > there
> > > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > > concerns:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major
> version
> > > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will
> support
> > > 0.10
> > > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> > there
> > > is
> > > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> > we'll
> > > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > > enough
> > > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> > the
> > > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen
> before
> > > > June 2017.
> > > >
> > > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Dongjin Lee*
> >
> >
> > *Software developer in Line+.So interested in massive-scale machine
> > learning.facebook: www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr
> > <http://www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr>linkedin:
> > kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
> > <http://kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr>github:
> > <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> > <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>twitter: www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr
> > <http://www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr>*
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Tom Crayford <tc...@heroku.com>.
This is great, thanks.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Dongjin Lee <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> It also makes sense to me. Thanks for your great work, Ismael.
>
> Add to this, it seems like there should be some following work on utilizing
> some parts of the code by applying Java 8's features.
>
> Best,
> Dongjin
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Makes sense.
> >
> > Eno
> >
> > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Dongjin Lee*
>
>
> *Software developer in Line+.So interested in massive-scale machine
> learning.facebook: www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr
> <http://www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr>linkedin:
> kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
> <http://kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr>github:
> <http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
> <http://github.com/dongjinleekr>twitter: www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr
> <http://www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr>*
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Dongjin Lee <do...@apache.org>.
It also makes sense to me. Thanks for your great work, Ismael.
Add to this, it seems like there should be some following work on utilizing
some parts of the code by applying Java 8's features.
Best,
Dongjin
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Makes sense.
>
> Eno
>
> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>
>
--
*Dongjin Lee*
*Software developer in Line+.So interested in massive-scale machine
learning.facebook: www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr
<http://www.facebook.com/dongjin.lee.kr>linkedin:
kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr
<http://kr.linkedin.com/in/dongjinleekr>github:
<http://goog_969573159/>github.com/dongjinleekr
<http://github.com/dongjinleekr>twitter: www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr
<http://www.twitter.com/dongjinleekr>*
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Dong Lin <li...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the KIP. LGTM as well.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Apurva Mehta <ap...@confluent.io> wrote:
> Thanks Ismael, this makes sense.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Guozhang Wang <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > LGTM too.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Makes sense.
> > >
> > > Eno
> > >
> > > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > > >
> > > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > > there
> > > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > > concerns:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major
> version
> > > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will
> support
> > > 0.10
> > > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> > there
> > > is
> > > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> > we'll
> > > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > > enough
> > > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> > the
> > > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen
> before
> > > > June 2017.
> > > >
> > > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- Guozhang
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Apurva Mehta <ap...@confluent.io>.
Thanks Ismael, this makes sense.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Guozhang Wang <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LGTM too.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Makes sense.
> >
> > Eno
> >
> > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Guozhang Wang <wa...@gmail.com>.
LGTM too.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Makes sense.
>
> Eno
>
> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>
>
--
-- Guozhang
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>.
Makes sense.
Eno
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
>
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
>
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
>
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Roger Hoover <ro...@gmail.com>.
This is great. Thanks, Ismael.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Henke
> Software Engineer | Cloudera
> grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Roger Hoover <ro...@gmail.com>.
This is great. Thanks, Ismael.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> > 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> > >
> > > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> > there
> > > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> > concerns:
> > >
> > > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > > instead of the next minor version.
> > > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> > 0.10
> > > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so
> there
> > is
> > > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so
> we'll
> > > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > > policy.
> > > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> > enough
> > > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when
> the
> > > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > > June 2017.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> > > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Henke
> Software Engineer | Cloudera
> grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com>.
Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
>
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
>
--
Grant Henke
Software Engineer | Cloudera
grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com>.
Looks good to me. Thanks for handling the KIP.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
>
> On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
> >
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-
> 118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
> >
> > Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but
> there
> > were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the
> concerns:
> >
> > 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> > instead of the next minor version.
> > 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support
> 0.10
> > brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there
> is
> > even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> > 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> > be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> > policy.
> > 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> > 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be
> enough
> > time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> > next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> > June 2017.
> >
> > Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
> > [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
> >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
>
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
>
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
>
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Damian Guy <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Ismael. Makes sense to me.
On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 at 10:39 Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
>
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
>
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable
> policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
>
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2
>
Re: [DISCUSS] KIP-118: Drop Support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11
Posted by Eno Thereska <en...@gmail.com>.
Makes sense.
Eno
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:38, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have posted a KIP for dropping support for Java 7 in Kafka 0.11:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-118%3A+Drop+Support+for+Java+7+in+Kafka+0.11
>
> Most people were supportive when we last discussed the topic[1], but there
> were a few concerns. I believe the following should mitigate the concerns:
>
> 1. The new proposal suggests dropping support in the next major version
> instead of the next minor version.
> 2. KIP-97 which is part of 0.10.2 means that 0.11 clients will support 0.10
> brokers (0.11 brokers will also support 0.10 clients as usual), so there is
> even more flexibility on incremental upgrades.
> 3. Java 9 will be released shortly after the next Kafka release, so we'll
> be supporting the 2 most recent Java releases, which is a reasonable policy.
> 4. 8 months have passed since the last proposal and the release after
> 0.10.2 won't be out for another 4 months, which should hopefully be enough
> time for Java 8 to be even more established. We haven't decided when the
> next major release will happen, but we know that it won't happen before
> June 2017.
>
> Please take a look at the proposal and share your feedback.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
> [1] http://search-hadoop.com/m/Kafka/uyzND1oIhV61GS5Sf2