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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Jyri Korhonen <Jy...@planmeca.com> on 2005/11/21 20:44:41 UTC
SA 3.1.0 and GroupWise 6.5
Hello,
I'm trying to test SA with Novell GroupWise 6.5,
but I'm not using anything in front of GroupWise
or behind GroupWise. I'm checking the emails
"in between" - that's after SMTP daemon and
before GroupWise MTA. We are running GroupWise
on a Netware server so I need a workstation to
do the job and I have installed a Windows XP
machine for this purpose.
The first problem I had was the infamous LF vs.
LF/CR problem, but I found the patch. The second
problem is harder because I haven't succeeded in
finding any clues what to do.
At first I tested SA with GroupWise's Mime.822
files (messages already delivered to mailboxes).
That went fine probably because the structure of
the header in a Mime.822 file is more common,
like this:
Return-path: <Ni...@menulink.net>
Received: from suomicommunications.com [217.119.36.25]
by mailcenter.plandent.com; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:13:50 +0200
Received: from [59.52.118.249] (helo=217.119.36.25)
by suomicommunications.com with smtp (Exim 4.50)
id 1EeDKa-0004CN-M7; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:11:46 +0200
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:11:33 +0100
Message-Id: <6....@ies.edu>
From: "Brent Collier" <Ni...@menulink.net>
To: <jy...@planmeca.com>
Subject: Peerless prestige
List-ID: <jy...@planmeca.com>
But then I tried to use live data and found out
that SA doesn't like at all the internal GroupWise
header format (this is the same message as above
using the internal header format):
MAIL FROM:<Ni...@menulink.net> SIZE=1741 BODY=8BITMIME
RCPT TO:<jy...@planmeca.com> ORCPT=rfc822;jyri.korhonen@planmeca.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:11:33 +0100
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From: "Brent Collier" <Ni...@menulink.net>
To: <jy...@planmeca.com>
Subject: Peerless prestige
List-ID: <jy...@planmeca.com>
If I run SA to a message with the internal GroupWise
headers I'll get something like the example below.
Could somebody give me a hint what I shoud do to
make SA understand GroupWise headers?
Best regards
Jyri Korhonen
Planmeca Oy
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Re: SA 3.1.0 and GroupWise 6.5
Posted by Rob Poe <rp...@plattesheriff.org>.
While not the answer you're looking for, we use Groupwise here, and to protect it, we use MailScanner/Clam/SpamAssassin on a Centos server. The sendmail running on the Centos server is our outward facing MTA, and I'd like to think that it provides that "extra layer" of security, so that nothing is acutally touching the Netware server on port 25....
Jyri Korhonen wrote:
I'm trying to test SA with Novell GroupWise 6.5,
but I'm not using anything in front of GroupWise
or behind GroupWise. I'm checking the emails
"in between" - that's after SMTP daemon and
before GroupWise MTA. We are running GroupWise
on a Netware server so I need a workstation to
do the job and I have installed a Windows XP
machine for this purpose.
Re: SA 3.1.0 and GroupWise 6.5
Posted by Theo Van Dinter <fe...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:44:41PM +0200, Jyri Korhonen wrote:
> But then I tried to use live data and found out
> that SA doesn't like at all the internal GroupWise
> header format (this is the same message as above
> using the internal header format):
>
> MAIL FROM:<Ni...@menulink.net> SIZE=1741 BODY=8BITMIME
> RCPT TO:<jy...@planmeca.com> ORCPT=rfc822;jyri.korhonen@planmeca.com
> X-GWIA: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:41:48 +0200; from suomicommunications.com
> Received: from suomicommunications.com [217.119.36.25]
> by mailcenter.plandent.com; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:13:50 +0200
[...]
> If I run SA to a message with the internal GroupWise
> headers I'll get something like the example below.
> Could somebody give me a hint what I shoud do to
> make SA understand GroupWise headers?
This is the job for the software in between GroupWise and SpamAssassin.
SA knows how to parse email messages, it doesn't understand "internal"
message formats such as these. In this case, GW seems to keep the
(E)SMTP from/to lines, which are not included in the email DATA section
where SA does its work.
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Re: SA 3.1.0 and GroupWise 6.5
Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>.
Jyri Korhonen wrote:
> If I run SA to a message with the internal GroupWise
> headers I'll get something like the example below.
> Could somebody give me a hint what I shoud do to
> make SA understand GroupWise headers?
>
Extensive code-rewrite (preferably of GroupWise, but alternatively of SA).
Realistically, you're not going to be able to make SA understand a non-standard
header format without a great deal of pain and suffering. Try to find another way.
Most groupwise folks I've seen use Guinevere, but this is not free. (Nor is
groupwise, for that matter)