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Posted to user@pivot.apache.org by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> on 2013/02/26 03:13:03 UTC
pivot + webkit?
*Hello guys!
*I am curious if anyone has experience / example
how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
on linux/macosx/windows?
Thank you,
Andrei
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
re: "porting WebKit to Java2D" - interesting, thanks for bringing this up
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>
> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
I think they use OpenGL to provide a drawing surface for Prism, but I'm not 100% sure.
On Mar 1, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> this is really depressing, man! :-)
>
> but wait, there are
>
> javafx.embed.swing.*
>
>
> javafx.embed.swt.*
>
>
>
> embedder packages there, like the one which embeds FX into SWING example
> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/blob/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2/SwingFXWebView.java
>
>
>
> how they deal with the impedance mismatch?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
> To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
> Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 11:49:55 AM CST
>> Possibly. But even if the source code becomes public, the APIs may not be.
>>
>> Also, don't underestimate the "impedance mismatch" between the FX and Java2D rendering models. There is not a nice 1:1 mapping between the immediate mode style of Java2D and other similar APIs and the retained/multiple thread model used by JavaFX.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Andrei Pozolotin
>> <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> there seems to be a promise here that all of prism will be public, or am I misreading this
>>>
>>> http://fxexperience.com/2013/02/february-open-source-update/
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>> From: Greg Brown
>>> <gk...@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> To: Andrei Pozolotin
>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Cc:
>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>
>>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 10:28:20 AM CST
>>>
>>>> JWebPane might be helpful if it existed, but unfortunately that work was turned into the JavaFX WebView which relies on Prism (private JavaFX API).
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin
>>>>
>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> webkit for java2d:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
>>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>>>> From: Greg Brown
>>>>>
>>>>> <gk...@verizon.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: Andrei Pozolotin
>>>>>
>>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>
>>>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>>>>>>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>>>>>>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
this is really depressing, man! :-)
but wait, there are
javafx.embed.swing.*
javafx.embed.swt.*
embedder packages there, like the one which embeds FX into SWING example
https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/blob/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2/SwingFXWebView.java
how they deal with the impedance mismatch?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 11:49:55 AM CST
> Possibly. But even if the source code becomes public, the APIs may not be.
>
> Also, don't underestimate the "impedance mismatch" between the FX and Java2D rendering models. There is not a nice 1:1 mapping between the immediate mode style of Java2D and other similar APIs and the retained/multiple thread model used by JavaFX.
>
> On Feb 28, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> there seems to be a promise here that all of prism will be public, or am I misreading this
>> http://fxexperience.com/2013/02/february-open-source-update/
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
>> To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 10:28:20 AM CST
>>> JWebPane might be helpful if it existed, but unfortunately that work was turned into the JavaFX WebView which relies on Prism (private JavaFX API).
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin
>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> webkit for java2d:
>>>>
>>>> http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
>>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>>> From: Greg Brown
>>>> <gk...@verizon.net>
>>>>
>>>> To: Andrei Pozolotin
>>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>>>>>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>>>>>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
Possibly. But even if the source code becomes public, the APIs may not be.
Also, don't underestimate the "impedance mismatch" between the FX and Java2D rendering models. There is not a nice 1:1 mapping between the immediate mode style of Java2D and other similar APIs and the retained/multiple thread model used by JavaFX.
On Feb 28, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> there seems to be a promise here that all of prism will be public, or am I misreading this
> http://fxexperience.com/2013/02/february-open-source-update/
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
> To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
> Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 10:28:20 AM CST
>> JWebPane might be helpful if it existed, but unfortunately that work was turned into the JavaFX WebView which relies on Prism (private JavaFX API).
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin
>> <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> webkit for java2d:
>>>
>>> http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
>>> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>> From: Greg Brown
>>> <gk...@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> To: Andrei Pozolotin
>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Cc:
>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>
>>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>>>
>>>>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>>>>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>>>>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>>>>
>>>> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
there seems to be a promise here that all of prism will be public, or am
I misreading this
http://fxexperience.com/2013/02/february-open-source-update/
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 10:28:20 AM CST
> JWebPane might be helpful if it existed, but unfortunately that work was turned into the JavaFX WebView which relies on Prism (private JavaFX API).
>
> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> webkit for java2d:
>> http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
>> To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>>>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>>>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>>>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
>>>>
>>> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>>>
>>> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
JWebPane might be helpful if it existed, but unfortunately that work was turned into the JavaFX WebView which relies on Prism (private JavaFX API).
On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> webkit for java2d:
> http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
> https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
> To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
> Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
>>>
>> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>>
>> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
webkit for java2d:
http://fxexperience.com/2012/04/interview-with-peter-zhelezniakov/
https://blogs.oracle.com/geertjan/entry/waiting_for_jwebpane
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 09:26:47 AM CST
>> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
>> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
>> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
> I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
>
> You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
> I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
> and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
> would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
I don't think so. The JavaFX port of WebKit is enormous and complex - not an easy thing to work with. Also, I think many of those APIs are hidden.
You might be better off porting WebKit to Java2D yourself (maybe someone else has tried this?).
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
thank you for detailed answer.
our issue at hand is to have webkit in pivot.
I am curious if we go "level down" (almost JNI)
and try to talk to the underlying webkit wrapper for javafx,
would it be easier to integrate in pivot?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>
Cc: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 08:32:09 AM CST
> The rendering models are completely different. Pivot uses immediate mode rendering (i.e. "paint" calls) and JavaFX uses retained mode (the scene graph). Way down under the hood, JavaFX translates the scene graph to immediate mode calls, but this is done using non-public APIs. Also, JavaFX uses a multi-threaded rendering approach whereas all Pivot rendering happens on a single thread (the EDT).
>
> It may be possible to render Pivot using JavaFX's new Canvas support, but that would most likely involve creating a graphics wrapper API that would either draw to Java2D or Canvas. This would require some extensive changes to the Pivot API. Even if this was possible, there would undoubtedly be issues mapping Pivot's user input model to JavaFX's.
>
> In other words, it would probably be a very time-consuming (and likely futile) effort.
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> re: "Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. " - what is the underlying reason for that?
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
>> To: user@pivot.apache.org
>> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 08:00:02 AM CST
>>> Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. However, since it is possible to embed both Pivot and JavaFX in a Swing app, maybe you could create a thin Swing app to host both.
>>>
>>> Another option might be to host Pivot within an SWT app and use the SWT browser widget for your web content. I don't believe it is possible to run Pivot within SWT at the moment, but I believe that should be easier to do than combining Pivot with JavaFX.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Andrei Pozolotin
>>> <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sandro:
>>>>
>>>> here is series of examples I found so far, towards having webkit in pivot:
>>>>
>>>> basic javafx browser
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> javafx browser embedded in swing panel
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> javafx browser embedded in AWT panel
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> pivot components embedded in swing
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am still not sure what is the right way to have webkit next to or inside the pivot components.
>>>>
>>>> What would be your advice?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Andrei
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>>> From: Sandro Martini
>>>> <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue 26 Feb 2013 06:57:44 AM CST
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrei,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
>>>>>> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
>>>>>> on linux/macosx/windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
>>>>>
>>>>> For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
>>>>> really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
>>>>> base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
>>>>> some goodies they have (like WebKit).
>>>>>
>>>>> But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
>>>>> ... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye,
>>>>> Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
The rendering models are completely different. Pivot uses immediate mode rendering (i.e. "paint" calls) and JavaFX uses retained mode (the scene graph). Way down under the hood, JavaFX translates the scene graph to immediate mode calls, but this is done using non-public APIs. Also, JavaFX uses a multi-threaded rendering approach whereas all Pivot rendering happens on a single thread (the EDT).
It may be possible to render Pivot using JavaFX's new Canvas support, but that would most likely involve creating a graphics wrapper API that would either draw to Java2D or Canvas. This would require some extensive changes to the Pivot API. Even if this was possible, there would undoubtedly be issues mapping Pivot's user input model to JavaFX's.
In other words, it would probably be a very time-consuming (and likely futile) effort.
On Feb 28, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> re: "Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. " - what is the underlying reason for that?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
> From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
> To: user@pivot.apache.org
> Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 08:00:02 AM CST
>> Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. However, since it is possible to embed both Pivot and JavaFX in a Swing app, maybe you could create a thin Swing app to host both.
>>
>> Another option might be to host Pivot within an SWT app and use the SWT browser widget for your web content. I don't believe it is possible to run Pivot within SWT at the moment, but I believe that should be easier to do than combining Pivot with JavaFX.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Andrei Pozolotin
>> <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sandro:
>>>
>>> here is series of examples I found so far, towards having webkit in pivot:
>>>
>>> basic javafx browser
>>>
>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo1
>>>
>>>
>>> javafx browser embedded in swing panel
>>>
>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2
>>>
>>>
>>> javafx browser embedded in AWT panel
>>>
>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo3
>>>
>>>
>>> pivot components embedded in swing
>>>
>>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo4
>>>
>>>
>>> I am still not sure what is the right way to have webkit next to or inside the pivot components.
>>>
>>> What would be your advice?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>>> From: Sandro Martini
>>> <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> To:
>>> user@pivot.apache.org
>>>
>>> Date: Tue 26 Feb 2013 06:57:44 AM CST
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrei,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
>>>>> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
>>>>> on linux/macosx/windows?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
>>>>
>>>> For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
>>>> really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
>>>> base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
>>>> some goodies they have (like WebKit).
>>>>
>>>> But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
>>>> ... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Sandro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
re: "Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be
difficult. " - what is the underlying reason for that?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>
To: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Thu 28 Feb 2013 08:00:02 AM CST
> Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. However, since it is possible to embed both Pivot and JavaFX in a Swing app, maybe you could create a thin Swing app to host both.
>
> Another option might be to host Pivot within an SWT app and use the SWT browser widget for your web content. I don't believe it is possible to run Pivot within SWT at the moment, but I believe that should be easier to do than combining Pivot with JavaFX.
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sandro:
>>
>> here is series of examples I found so far, towards having webkit in pivot:
>>
>> basic javafx browser
>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo1
>>
>> javafx browser embedded in swing panel
>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2
>>
>> javafx browser embedded in AWT panel
>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo3
>>
>> pivot components embedded in swing
>> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo4
>>
>> I am still not sure what is the right way to have webkit next to or inside the pivot components.
>>
>> What would be your advice?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Andrei
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
>> From: Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>
>> To: user@pivot.apache.org
>> Date: Tue 26 Feb 2013 06:57:44 AM CST
>>> Hi Andrei,
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
>>>> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
>>>> on linux/macosx/windows?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
>>>
>>> For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
>>> really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
>>> base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
>>> some goodies they have (like WebKit).
>>>
>>> But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
>>> ... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Sandro
>>>
>>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Greg Brown <gk...@verizon.net>.
Hosting Pivot within JavaFX or vice versa is likely to be difficult. However, since it is possible to embed both Pivot and JavaFX in a Swing app, maybe you could create a thin Swing app to host both.
Another option might be to host Pivot within an SWT app and use the SWT browser widget for your web content. I don't believe it is possible to run Pivot within SWT at the moment, but I believe that should be easier to do than combining Pivot with JavaFX.
On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sandro:
>
> here is series of examples I found so far, towards having webkit in pivot:
>
> basic javafx browser
> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo1
>
> javafx browser embedded in swing panel
> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2
>
> javafx browser embedded in AWT panel
> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo3
>
> pivot components embedded in swing
> https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo4
>
> I am still not sure what is the right way to have webkit next to or inside the pivot components.
>
> What would be your advice?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Andrei
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
> From: Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>
> To: user@pivot.apache.org
> Date: Tue 26 Feb 2013 06:57:44 AM CST
>> Hi Andrei,
>>
>>
>>> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
>>> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
>>> on linux/macosx/windows?
>>>
>>>
>> I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
>>
>> For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
>> really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
>> base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
>> some goodies they have (like WebKit).
>>
>> But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
>> ... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Sandro
>>
>>
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Andrei Pozolotin <an...@gmail.com>.
*Sandro:*
here is series of examples I found so far, towards having webkit in
pivot:
basic javafx browser
https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo1
javafx browser embedded in swing panel
https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo2
javafx browser embedded in AWT panel
https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo3
pivot components embedded in swing
https://github.com/barchart/barchart-pivot-javafx/tree/master/src/test/java/bench/demo4
I am still not sure what is the right way to have webkit next to or
inside the pivot components.
What would be your advice?
Thank you,
Andrei
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: pivot + webkit?
From: Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>
To: user@pivot.apache.org
Date: Tue 26 Feb 2013 06:57:44 AM CST
> Hi Andrei,
>
>> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
>> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
>> on linux/macosx/windows?
>>
> I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
>
> For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
> really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
> base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
> some goodies they have (like WebKit).
>
> But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
> ... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
>
> Bye,
> Sandro
>
Re: pivot + webkit?
Posted by Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrei,
> I am curious if anyone has experience / example
> how to use pivot with webkit which comes with java 7 / javafx JRE
> on linux/macosx/windows?
>
I'm sorry but I haven't ... maybe others have at least do some tests/prototypes.
For 2.1 I just updated our requirements to Java 7 (in jira), and I'm
really thinking if start to change the backend graphics to use JavaFX
base classes (or maybe in a next release), at least to be able to use
some goodies they have (like WebKit).
But maybe if there is a simpler way we could start to use it directly
... so really, if someone has suggestions/tests/other, tell us.
Bye,
Sandro