[Bug 5466] New: SA Rules for some of IADB data say "spam" for things like publishing rDNS and using COI

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           Summary: SA Rules for some of IADB data say "spam" for things
                    like publishing rDNS and using COI
           Product: Spamassassin
           Version: 3.2.0
          Platform: Other
               URL: http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P5
         Component: Rules
        AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
        ReportedBy: amitchell@isipp.com
                CC: amitchell@isipp.com


We just noticed (well, had brought to our attention, really), that you've expanded SA's use of our IADB 
data (yay!..it was built that way to make it easy for SA to use!..thank you!)...BUT...also, several of the 
things which one would think would give a sender a "positive" score (i.e. they are doing the right thing) 
or at least not a "spam" score, are in fact giving them a ding.  The following all have a positive ("this 
could be spam") value of 1 (not -1...plus 1):

Sender publishes rDNS
Sender publishes Domain Keys
Confirmed opt-in used more than 50% of the time
Confirmed opt-in used less than 50% of the time (by contrast, Habeas' regular non-confirmed (single) 
opt in gets a -4.3)
All mail is at least opt-in
All email is one-to-one or transactional *only* (no bulk mail at all)
Sends no material that falls within the Michigan or Utah Child Protection Registery (i.e. they *don't* 
send adult materials)

By contrast, our "Scrapes addresses, pure opt-out only", "Accepts unverified sign-ups" and  "Accepts 
unverified sign-ups, gives chance to opt out" actually all have a *negative* score in SA!  Huh??

Something is clearly a little topsy-turvy here;  what can we do to get this sorted out?

Thanks!

Anne

amitchell@isipp.com



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------- Additional Comments From mkettler_sa@verizon.net  2007-05-17 18:42 -------
Don't rely on the score numbers at: 
http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html

Most of the rules that are listed as "1" on that list are not actually scored
"1". It looks like the list was generated before all the scores were generated
for the "new" rules.

Check the actual 50_scores.cf

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.2/rules/50_scores.cf

Here's the real scores:

core RCVD_IN_IADB_DK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_DOPTIN_GT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_DOPTIN_LT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_EDDB 0 -0.001 0 -0.293
score RCVD_IN_IADB_EPIA 0 -0.135 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_GOODMAIL 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_LISTED 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_LOOSE 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPEAR 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_30 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_MAT 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_NOCONTROL 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OOO 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_GT50 0 -0.499 0 -0.245
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_LT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTOUTONLY 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF 0 -0.001 0 -0.078
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_1 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_2 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPEAR 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_30 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_MAT 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3



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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2007-05-25 08:46 -------
Anne -- do those scores that Matt posted make sense?  drop a comment here if
there's still issues.



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