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NetBeans and C++
I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
Regards
Chris
AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Ok thx
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Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 10:50
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Possibly nobody knows right now, Chris. I'll ask Vladimir Voskresensky, if
he hasn't seen this message, to respond, i.e., he leads the C/C++ tools
team in Oracle, i.e., creates C/C++ tools in NetBeans.
Gj
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> push
>
> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>
> Von: Christian Lenz
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2017 14:06
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: NetBeans and C++
>
> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-
> reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>
> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
> C++17)
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Possibly nobody knows right now, Chris. I'll ask Vladimir Voskresensky, if
he hasn't seen this message, to respond, i.e., he leads the C/C++ tools
team in Oracle, i.e., creates C/C++ tools in NetBeans.
Gj
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> push
>
> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>
> Von: Christian Lenz
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2017 14:06
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: NetBeans and C++
>
> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-
> reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>
> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
> C++17)
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
>
AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
push
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Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2017 14:06
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: NetBeans and C++
I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
Regards
Chris
Re: AW: AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
On 14.07.2017 10:33, Christian Lenz wrote:
> No I’m not working on it, but the LLVM or Emscripten is already doing it.
Yes, the tool Emscripten, not Clang/LLVM itself.
> It was only a question to have a feautre/Action to generate JS Code from the C++ Code via the Clang/LLVM/Emscripten toolkit, right inside NetBeans.
I think such plugin is easy to write already now, because only external
tools are involved. So, if someone is interested - welcome to provide
such plugin.
Vladimir.
>
> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>
> Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2017 21:11
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: NetBeans and C++
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> On 12.07.2017 17:08, Christian Lenz wrote:
>> Hey Vladimir,
>>
>> thx for the info. I was on the NewAndNoteworthy page, but I didn’t see any C++17 stuff. Thats why I’m asking.
> Because we can not claim we support it :-)
>> I scrolled through the slides so will it be possible in NetBeans 9 to have some Features from Clang like convert C++ Code to JavaScript?
> No. Btw, I'm not aware of such Clang functionality.
>> Via an Action or smth like that? And to print the AST from the C Code?
> AST can be printed for C/C++ and ObjectiveC/ObjectiveC++. Someone can
> add such plugin.
>> I think this is possible, because of the CLI params that you have to handle over to the Clang Compiler, which is installed.
> We don't require Clang compiler to be installed on user system.
> Clang is not only compiler, it's also great framework/library to create
> tools which requires C/C++/ObjC knowledge.
> Clank (with the last K) is the Java-port of Clang libraries.
> Ported one component after another. Clank is not the compiler-functional
> tool yet.
> But it has Driver, Lexer, AST, Parser, Static Analyzer and some other
> libraries ready which makes Clank functional reach already now.
>> If not, I will create a ticket for this later, because that would be very Handy to have it right inside NetBeans to create JS Code from C++. And it will help with WebAssembly even more.
> May be I misunderstand you, but are you saying you are going to write
> C++ to JS converter for NetBeans?
>
> Thanks,
> Vladimir.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 12:13
>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: NetBeans and C++
>>
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>>
>> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>>
>>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
>> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
>> It supports C++17 at some extent.
>> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>>
>> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
>> NetBeans 9.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>>
>> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration
>> of static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because
>> is based on Clank).
>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>>
>> Hope it helps,
>> Vladimir.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>
>
>
AW: AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
No I’m not working on it, but the LLVM or Emscripten is already doing it. It was only a question to have a feautre/Action to generate JS Code from the C++ Code via the Clang/LLVM/Emscripten toolkit, right inside NetBeans.
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Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2017 21:11
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: NetBeans and C++
Hello Chris,
On 12.07.2017 17:08, Christian Lenz wrote:
> Hey Vladimir,
>
> thx for the info. I was on the NewAndNoteworthy page, but I didn’t see any C++17 stuff. Thats why I’m asking.
Because we can not claim we support it :-)
> I scrolled through the slides so will it be possible in NetBeans 9 to have some Features from Clang like convert C++ Code to JavaScript?
No. Btw, I'm not aware of such Clang functionality.
> Via an Action or smth like that? And to print the AST from the C Code?
AST can be printed for C/C++ and ObjectiveC/ObjectiveC++. Someone can
add such plugin.
> I think this is possible, because of the CLI params that you have to handle over to the Clang Compiler, which is installed.
We don't require Clang compiler to be installed on user system.
Clang is not only compiler, it's also great framework/library to create
tools which requires C/C++/ObjC knowledge.
Clank (with the last K) is the Java-port of Clang libraries.
Ported one component after another. Clank is not the compiler-functional
tool yet.
But it has Driver, Lexer, AST, Parser, Static Analyzer and some other
libraries ready which makes Clank functional reach already now.
> If not, I will create a ticket for this later, because that would be very Handy to have it right inside NetBeans to create JS Code from C++. And it will help with WebAssembly even more.
May be I misunderstand you, but are you saying you are going to write
C++ to JS converter for NetBeans?
Thanks,
Vladimir.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 12:13
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: NetBeans and C++
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>
> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>
>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
> It supports C++17 at some extent.
> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>
> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
> NetBeans 9.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>
> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration
> of static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because
> is based on Clank).
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>
> Hope it helps,
> Vladimir.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>
Re: AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
Hello Chris,
On 12.07.2017 17:08, Christian Lenz wrote:
> Hey Vladimir,
>
> thx for the info. I was on the NewAndNoteworthy page, but I didn’t see any C++17 stuff. Thats why I’m asking.
Because we can not claim we support it :-)
> I scrolled through the slides so will it be possible in NetBeans 9 to have some Features from Clang like convert C++ Code to JavaScript?
No. Btw, I'm not aware of such Clang functionality.
> Via an Action or smth like that? And to print the AST from the C Code?
AST can be printed for C/C++ and ObjectiveC/ObjectiveC++. Someone can
add such plugin.
> I think this is possible, because of the CLI params that you have to handle over to the Clang Compiler, which is installed.
We don't require Clang compiler to be installed on user system.
Clang is not only compiler, it's also great framework/library to create
tools which requires C/C++/ObjC knowledge.
Clank (with the last K) is the Java-port of Clang libraries.
Ported one component after another. Clank is not the compiler-functional
tool yet.
But it has Driver, Lexer, AST, Parser, Static Analyzer and some other
libraries ready which makes Clank functional reach already now.
> If not, I will create a ticket for this later, because that would be very Handy to have it right inside NetBeans to create JS Code from C++. And it will help with WebAssembly even more.
May be I misunderstand you, but are you saying you are going to write
C++ to JS converter for NetBeans?
Thanks,
Vladimir.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 12:13
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: NetBeans and C++
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>
> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>
>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
> It supports C++17 at some extent.
> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>
> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
> NetBeans 9.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>
> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration
> of static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because
> is based on Clank).
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>
> Hope it helps,
> Vladimir.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
>
AW: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Hey Vladimir,
thx for the info. I was on the NewAndNoteworthy page, but I didn’t see any C++17 stuff. Thats why I’m asking.
I scrolled through the slides so will it be possible in NetBeans 9 to have some Features from Clang like convert C++ Code to JavaScript? Via an Action or smth like that? And to print the AST from the C Code? I think this is possible, because of the CLI params that you have to handle over to the Clang Compiler, which is installed. If not, I will create a ticket for this later, because that would be very Handy to have it right inside NetBeans to create JS Code from C++. And it will help with WebAssembly even more.
Regards
Chris
Von: Vladimir Voskresensky
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 12:13
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: NetBeans and C++
Hello Chris,
Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>
> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
It supports C++17 at some extent.
(And for a long time it support Remote development)
We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
NetBeans 9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration
of static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because
is based on Clank).
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
Hope it helps,
Vladimir.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
On Jul 14, 2017 3:23 AM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" <
vladimir.voskresensky@oracle.com> wrote:
On 14.07.2017 04:23, Wade Chandler wrote:
> On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" <
> vladimir.voskresensky@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 13.07.2017 22:09, Wade Chandler wrote:
>
> So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party
>> stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work at Apache?
>>
>> The plan published by Geertjan saying C++ is donated after Java support is
> donated (end of August?).
>
> Just some binary from closed sources doesn’t seem the Apache way per other
>
>> discussions.
>>
>> I hope you misunderstood the other discussion:
> External binaries under Apache-friendly license are OK to be used in Apache
> NetBeans.
>
> Btw, being just binaries with LLVM license might even simplify the current
> process for donation of sources.
> Because Clank source code base is 2.6MLOC...
>
>
> I am not sure closed source binaries are the same thing regardless of the
> license. I may have misunderstood for sure. It read like Clank and the
> other libs sources are in Oracle and not open unlike nbjavac which I
> understand the sources will be available. Have I misunderstood? If so,
> great.
>
You might be right, I could be wrong...
Someone should clarify the case.
We can specifically ask the mentors, but for further clarification, is
Clank closed source? If so, the use of an OSS license means the license
isn't being followed actually; as there are no sources. It all depends on
project setup or packaging and distribution of sources etc I am sure (per
definitions here). But, certainly if the sources are not available, or
there is no contribution model outside of Oracle, that presents problems
for library dependencies, and doesn't follow the spirit of an OSS license.
The difference being library versus tool set users are expected to already
have on their systems such as Clang or GCC.
Hopefully others here, who will choose to spend time on NetBeans, will
agree with me, that we would like to be able to fix issues as they arise
regardless of Oracle's further commitments to the project, and if the
situation is how it sounded/read to me, I think it would be counter to that
and also "The Apache Way". If we can contribute to Clank easily enough,
because the sources are open in a way that aligns with other dependencies,
that is of course a different story.
Thanks
Wade
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
On 14.07.2017 04:23, Wade Chandler wrote:
> On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" <
> vladimir.voskresensky@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 13.07.2017 22:09, Wade Chandler wrote:
>
>> So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party
>> stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work at Apache?
>>
> The plan published by Geertjan saying C++ is donated after Java support is
> donated (end of August?).
>
> Just some binary from closed sources doesn’t seem the Apache way per other
>> discussions.
>>
> I hope you misunderstood the other discussion:
> External binaries under Apache-friendly license are OK to be used in Apache
> NetBeans.
>
> Btw, being just binaries with LLVM license might even simplify the current
> process for donation of sources.
> Because Clank source code base is 2.6MLOC...
>
>
> I am not sure closed source binaries are the same thing regardless of the
> license. I may have misunderstood for sure. It read like Clank and the
> other libs sources are in Oracle and not open unlike nbjavac which I
> understand the sources will be available. Have I misunderstood? If so,
> great.
You might be right, I could be wrong...
Someone should clarify the case.
Btw, C++ support can work without Clank libraries as well (as was till
8.0), just some features will be missed.
Vladimir.
>
>
> I think Clank in the wild would be awesome btw. I was trying to find it
>> after reading this. The C++ support is one area I have been interested in
>> once over at Apache.
>>
> C++ support is in NetBeans for a long time, so welcome to participate
> already now :-)
>
>
> I know and has been on my agenda to dig into for a while, but with the
> transition I have been waiting on some things. :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Wade
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" <
vladimir.voskresensky@oracle.com> wrote:
On 13.07.2017 22:09, Wade Chandler wrote:
> So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party
> stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work at Apache?
>
The plan published by Geertjan saying C++ is donated after Java support is
donated (end of August?).
Just some binary from closed sources doesn’t seem the Apache way per other
> discussions.
>
I hope you misunderstood the other discussion:
External binaries under Apache-friendly license are OK to be used in Apache
NetBeans.
Btw, being just binaries with LLVM license might even simplify the current
process for donation of sources.
Because Clank source code base is 2.6MLOC...
I am not sure closed source binaries are the same thing regardless of the
license. I may have misunderstood for sure. It read like Clank and the
other libs sources are in Oracle and not open unlike nbjavac which I
understand the sources will be available. Have I misunderstood? If so,
great.
I think Clank in the wild would be awesome btw. I was trying to find it
> after reading this. The C++ support is one area I have been interested in
> once over at Apache.
>
C++ support is in NetBeans for a long time, so welcome to participate
already now :-)
I know and has been on my agenda to dig into for a while, but with the
transition I have been waiting on some things. :-)
Thanks
Wade
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
On 13.07.2017 22:09, Wade Chandler wrote:
> So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work at Apache?
The plan published by Geertjan saying C++ is donated after Java support
is donated (end of August?).
> Just some binary from closed sources doesn’t seem the Apache way per other discussions.
I hope you misunderstood the other discussion:
External binaries under Apache-friendly license are OK to be used in
Apache NetBeans.
Btw, being just binaries with LLVM license might even simplify the
current process for donation of sources.
Because Clank source code base is 2.6MLOC...
> I think Clank in the wild would be awesome btw. I was trying to find it after reading this. The C++ support is one area I have been interested in once over at Apache.
C++ support is in NetBeans for a long time, so welcome to participate
already now :-)
Thanks,
Vladimir.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wade
>
>
> ===================
>
> Wade Chandler
> e: consult@wadechandler.com
>
>
>
>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 15:02, Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12.07.2017 16:53, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>> This presentation was awesome!
>> Thanks.
>>> Had no idea so much work is poured into
>>> the C++ cluster.
>> We develop C++ cluster as the platform for "Oracle Developmer Studio"
>>> And of course, regardless the parser, getting comments into the AST is
>>> the first challenge for editors :-)
>>>
>>> Where is JConverter and Clank hosted?
>> JConvert is our internal close sourced tool.
>> Converted Clank sources are hosted internally as well, but jars are propagated as external-libs into $nb_src/libs.clank module under LLVM license.
>>
>> Vladimir.
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky
>>> <vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>>>>
>>>> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>>>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
>>>>> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
>>>>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>>>>
>>>>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
>>>>> C++17)
>>>> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
>>>> It supports C++17 at some extent.
>>>> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>>>>
>>>> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
>>>> NetBeans 9.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>>>>
>>>> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration of
>>>> static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because is
>>>> based on Clank).
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps,
>>>> Vladimir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work at Apache? Just some binary from closed sources doesn’t seem the Apache way per other discussions. I think Clank in the wild would be awesome btw. I was trying to find it after reading this. The C++ support is one area I have been interested in once over at Apache.
Thanks,
Wade
===================
Wade Chandler
e: consult@wadechandler.com
> On Jul 13, 2017, at 15:02, Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12.07.2017 16:53, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> This presentation was awesome!
> Thanks.
>> Had no idea so much work is poured into
>> the C++ cluster.
> We develop C++ cluster as the platform for "Oracle Developmer Studio"
>>
>> And of course, regardless the parser, getting comments into the AST is
>> the first challenge for editors :-)
>>
>> Where is JConverter and Clank hosted?
> JConvert is our internal close sourced tool.
> Converted Clank sources are hosted internally as well, but jars are propagated as external-libs into $nb_src/libs.clank module under LLVM license.
>
> Vladimir.
>>
>> --emi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky
>> <vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Chris,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>>>
>>> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
>>>> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
>>>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>>>
>>>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
>>>> C++17)
>>> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
>>> It supports C++17 at some extent.
>>> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>>>
>>> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
>>> NetBeans 9.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>>>
>>> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration of
>>> static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because is
>>> based on Clank).
>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>>>
>>> Hope it helps,
>>> Vladimir.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
On 12.07.2017 16:53, Emilian Bold wrote:
> This presentation was awesome!
Thanks.
> Had no idea so much work is poured into
> the C++ cluster.
We develop C++ cluster as the platform for "Oracle Developmer Studio"
>
> And of course, regardless the parser, getting comments into the AST is
> the first challenge for editors :-)
>
> Where is JConverter and Clank hosted?
JConvert is our internal close sourced tool.
Converted Clank sources are hosted internally as well, but jars are
propagated as external-libs into $nb_src/libs.clank module under LLVM
license.
Vladimir.
>
> --emi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky
> <vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Hello Chris,
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>>
>> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
>>> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
>>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>>
>>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
>>> C++17)
>> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
>> It supports C++17 at some extent.
>> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>>
>> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
>> NetBeans 9.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>>
>> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration of
>> static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because is
>> based on Clank).
>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>>
>> Hope it helps,
>> Vladimir.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.
This presentation was awesome! Had no idea so much work is poured into
the C++ cluster.
And of course, regardless the parser, getting comments into the AST is
the first challenge for editors :-)
Where is JConverter and Clank hosted?
--emi
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky
<vl...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Hello Chris,
>
> Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
>
> On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>
>> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with
>> C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about:
>> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>>
>> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and
>> C++17)
>
> NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
> It supports C++17 at some extent.
> (And for a long time it support Remote development)
>
> We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
> NetBeans 9.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
>
> NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration of
> static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because is
> based on Clank).
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
>
> Hope it helps,
> Vladimir.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>
Re: NetBeans and C++
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <vl...@oracle.com>.
Hello Chris,
Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.
On 06.07.2017 15:06, Christian Lenz wrote:
> I know NetBeans is ready for C/C++ and I think for C++11, but what is with C++14 and C++17. Atm I don’t use it, but I saw a blog post about: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2017/07/05/7-reasons-to-move-your-cpp-code-to-visual-studio-2017/
>
> So I’m wondering, whether NetBeans can handle it too, or not (C++14 and C++17)
NetBeans can handle C++ up to C++14.
It supports C++17 at some extent.
(And for a long time it support Remote development)
We are working on Clank now (It is the Java-port of Clang/LLVM) for
NetBeans 9.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFJlARXO74
NB9 will support dbx debugger, clang-format and experimental integration
of static analyzer functionality (which supports c++17 as well, because
is based on Clank).
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB9#C.2FC.2B.2B
Hope it helps,
Vladimir.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>