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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Do we have any further updates on release date?
Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
Thanks
Arun
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> Hi Arun,
>
> My bet is...https://spark-summit.org/2016 :)
>
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> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > A small request.
> >
> > Would you mind providing an approximate date of Spark 2.0 release? Is it
> > early May or Mid May or End of May?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Arun
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by "Taotao.Li" <ch...@gmail.com>.
docs I found and unreleased officially:
- 2.0.0-preview: http://spark.apache.org/docs/2.0.0-preview/
<http://spark.apache.org/docs/2.0.0-preview/>
- master-docs :
http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/index.html
- 2.0.0 docs:
https://home.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-branch-2.0-docs/latest/
thanks,
taotao
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> Whoohoo! What a great news! Looks like a RC is coming...Thanks a lot,
> Reynold!
>
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> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Reynold Xin <rx...@databricks.com> wrote:
> > It'd be great to cut an RC as soon as possible. Looking at the
> > blocker/critical issue list, majority of them are API audits. I think
> people
> > will get back to those once Spark Summit is over, and then we should see
> > some good progress towards an RC.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Finally, the PMC voice on the subject. Thanks a lot, Sean!
> >>
> >> p.s. Given how much time it takes to ship 2.0 (with so many cool
> >> features already backed in!) I'd vote for releasing a few more RCs
> >> before 2.0 hits the shelves. I hope 2.0 is not Java 9 or Jigsaw ;-)
> >>
> >> Pozdrawiam,
> >> Jacek Laskowski
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> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >> > I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
> >> > something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
> >> > there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
> >> > or test on it can do so now.
> >> >
> >> > That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
> >> > deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
> >> > June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
> >> >
> >> > In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
> >> > count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
> >> > open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
> >> > simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
> >> > represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
> >> > me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
> >> > under carpets.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>
> wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
> >> >> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
> >> >> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
> >> >> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone.
> Reynold's
> >> >> busy. Perhaps Sean?
> >> >>
> >> >>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/
> ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Jacek
> >> >>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>.
Whoohoo! What a great news! Looks like a RC is coming...Thanks a lot, Reynold!
Pozdrawiam,
Jacek Laskowski
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Reynold Xin <rx...@databricks.com> wrote:
> It'd be great to cut an RC as soon as possible. Looking at the
> blocker/critical issue list, majority of them are API audits. I think people
> will get back to those once Spark Summit is over, and then we should see
> some good progress towards an RC.
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
>>
>> Finally, the PMC voice on the subject. Thanks a lot, Sean!
>>
>> p.s. Given how much time it takes to ship 2.0 (with so many cool
>> features already backed in!) I'd vote for releasing a few more RCs
>> before 2.0 hits the shelves. I hope 2.0 is not Java 9 or Jigsaw ;-)
>>
>> Pozdrawiam,
>> Jacek Laskowski
>> ----
>> https://medium.com/@jaceklaskowski/
>> Mastering Apache Spark http://bit.ly/mastering-apache-spark
>> Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>> > I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
>> > something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
>> > there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
>> > or test on it can do so now.
>> >
>> > That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
>> > deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
>> > June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
>> >
>> > In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
>> > count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
>> > open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
>> > simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
>> > represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
>> > me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
>> > under carpets.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
>> >>
>> >> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
>> >> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
>> >> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
>> >> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
>> >> busy. Perhaps Sean?
>> >>
>> >>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/ ?
>> >>
>> >> Jacek
>> >>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Reynold Xin <rx...@databricks.com>.
It'd be great to cut an RC as soon as possible. Looking at the
blocker/critical issue list, majority of them are API audits. I think
people will get back to those once Spark Summit is over, and then we should
see some good progress towards an RC.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> Finally, the PMC voice on the subject. Thanks a lot, Sean!
>
> p.s. Given how much time it takes to ship 2.0 (with so many cool
> features already backed in!) I'd vote for releasing a few more RCs
> before 2.0 hits the shelves. I hope 2.0 is not Java 9 or Jigsaw ;-)
>
> Pozdrawiam,
> Jacek Laskowski
> ----
> https://medium.com/@jaceklaskowski/
> Mastering Apache Spark http://bit.ly/mastering-apache-spark
> Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
> > something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
> > there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
> > or test on it can do so now.
> >
> > That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
> > deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
> > June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
> >
> > In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
> > count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
> > open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
> > simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
> > represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
> > me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
> > under carpets.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
> >>
> >> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
> >> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
> >> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
> >> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
> >> busy. Perhaps Sean?
> >>
> >>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
> >>
> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/
> ?
> >>
> >> Jacek
> >>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com>.
For this moment you can look at
https://home.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-branch-2.0-docs/latest/
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sean and Jacek.
>
> Do we have any updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>> > That's not any kind of authoritative statement, just my opinion and
>> > guess.
>>
>> Oh, come on. You're not **a** Sean but **the** Sean (= a PMC member
>> and the JIRA/PRs keeper) so what you say **is** kinda official. Sorry.
>> But don't worry the PMC (the group) can decide whatever it wants to
>> decide so any date is a good date.
>>
>> > Reynold mentioned the idea of releasing monthly milestone releases for
>> > the latest branch. That's an interesting idea for the future.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> > I know there was concern that publishing a preview release, which is
>> > like an alpha,
>> > might leave alpha-quality code out there too long as the latest
>> > release. Hence, probably support for publishing some kind of preview 2
>> > or beta or whatever
>>
>> The issue seems to have been sorted out when Matei and Reynold agreed
>> to push the preview out (which is a good thing!), and I'm sure
>> there'll be little to no concern to do it again and again. 2.0 is
>> certainly taking far too long (as if there were some magic in 2.0).
>>
>> p.s. It's so frustrating to tell people about the latest and greatest
>> of 2.0 and then switch to 1.6.1 or even older in projects :( Soooo
>> frustrating...
>>
>> Jacek
>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Sean and Jacek.
Do we have any updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > That's not any kind of authoritative statement, just my opinion and
> guess.
>
> Oh, come on. You're not **a** Sean but **the** Sean (= a PMC member
> and the JIRA/PRs keeper) so what you say **is** kinda official. Sorry.
> But don't worry the PMC (the group) can decide whatever it wants to
> decide so any date is a good date.
>
> > Reynold mentioned the idea of releasing monthly milestone releases for
> > the latest branch. That's an interesting idea for the future.
>
> +1
>
> > I know there was concern that publishing a preview release, which is
> like an alpha,
> > might leave alpha-quality code out there too long as the latest
> > release. Hence, probably support for publishing some kind of preview 2
> > or beta or whatever
>
> The issue seems to have been sorted out when Matei and Reynold agreed
> to push the preview out (which is a good thing!), and I'm sure
> there'll be little to no concern to do it again and again. 2.0 is
> certainly taking far too long (as if there were some magic in 2.0).
>
> p.s. It's so frustrating to tell people about the latest and greatest
> of 2.0 and then switch to 1.6.1 or even older in projects :( Soooo
> frustrating...
>
> Jacek
>
Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> That's not any kind of authoritative statement, just my opinion and guess.
Oh, come on. You're not **a** Sean but **the** Sean (= a PMC member
and the JIRA/PRs keeper) so what you say **is** kinda official. Sorry.
But don't worry the PMC (the group) can decide whatever it wants to
decide so any date is a good date.
> Reynold mentioned the idea of releasing monthly milestone releases for
> the latest branch. That's an interesting idea for the future.
+1
> I know there was concern that publishing a preview release, which is like an alpha,
> might leave alpha-quality code out there too long as the latest
> release. Hence, probably support for publishing some kind of preview 2
> or beta or whatever
The issue seems to have been sorted out when Matei and Reynold agreed
to push the preview out (which is a good thing!), and I'm sure
there'll be little to no concern to do it again and again. 2.0 is
certainly taking far too long (as if there were some magic in 2.0).
p.s. It's so frustrating to tell people about the latest and greatest
of 2.0 and then switch to 1.6.1 or even older in projects :( Soooo
frustrating...
Jacek
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com>.
That's not any kind of authoritative statement, just my opinion and guess.
Reynold mentioned the idea of releasing monthly milestone releases for
the latest branch. That's an interesting idea for the future.
If the issue burn-down takes significantly longer to get right, then
maybe indeed another preview release would help. I know there was
concern that publishing a preview release, which is like an alpha,
might leave alpha-quality code out there too long as the latest
release. Hence, probably support for publishing some kind of preview 2
or beta or whatever
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> Finally, the PMC voice on the subject. Thanks a lot, Sean!
>
> p.s. Given how much time it takes to ship 2.0 (with so many cool
> features already backed in!) I'd vote for releasing a few more RCs
> before 2.0 hits the shelves. I hope 2.0 is not Java 9 or Jigsaw ;-)
>
> Pozdrawiam,
> Jacek Laskowski
> ----
> https://medium.com/@jaceklaskowski/
> Mastering Apache Spark http://bit.ly/mastering-apache-spark
> Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>> I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
>> something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
>> there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
>> or test on it can do so now.
>>
>> That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
>> deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
>> June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
>>
>> In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
>> count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
>> open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
>> simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
>> represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
>> me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
>> under carpets.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
>>>
>>> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
>>> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
>>> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
>>> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
>>> busy. Perhaps Sean?
>>>
>>>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/ ?
>>>
>>> Jacek
>>>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>.
Finally, the PMC voice on the subject. Thanks a lot, Sean!
p.s. Given how much time it takes to ship 2.0 (with so many cool
features already backed in!) I'd vote for releasing a few more RCs
before 2.0 hits the shelves. I hope 2.0 is not Java 9 or Jigsaw ;-)
Pozdrawiam,
Jacek Laskowski
----
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Follow me at https://twitter.com/jaceklaskowski
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
> something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
> there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
> or test on it can do so now.
>
> That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
> deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
> June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
>
> In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
> count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
> open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
> simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
> represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
> me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
> under carpets.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
>>
>> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
>> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
>> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
>> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
>> busy. Perhaps Sean?
>>
>>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/ ?
>>
>> Jacek
>>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com>.
I don't believe the intent was to get it out before Spark Summit or
something. That shouldn't drive the schedule anyway. But now that
there's a 2.0.0 preview available, people who are eager to experiment
or test on it can do so now.
That probably reduces urgency to get it out the door in order to
deliver new functionality. I guessed the 2.0.0 release would be mid
June and now I'd guess early July. But, nobody's discussed it per se.
In theory only fixes, tests and docs are being merged, so the JIRA
count should be going down. It has, slowly. Right now there are 72
open issues for 2.0.0, of which 20 are blockers. Most of those are
simple "audit x" or "document x" tasks or umbrellas, but, they do
represent things that have to get done before a release, and that to
me looks like a few more weeks of finishing, pushing, and sweeping
under carpets.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do we have any further updates on release date?
>
> Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
> certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
> all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
> PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
> busy. Perhaps Sean?
>
>> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
>
> http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/ ?
>
> Jacek
>
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Re: Spark 2.0 Release Date
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@japila.pl>.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Arun Patel <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do we have any further updates on release date?
Nope :( And it's even more quiet than I could have thought. I was so
certain that today's the date. Looks like Spark Summit has "consumed"
all the people behind 2.0...Can't believe no one (from the
PMC/committers) even mean to shoot a date :( Patrick's gone. Reynold's
busy. Perhaps Sean?
> Also, Is there a updated documentation for 2.0 somewhere?
http://people.apache.org/~pwendell/spark-nightly/spark-master-docs/latest/ ?
Jacek
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