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Posted to dev@velocity.apache.org by Warner Onstine <sw...@warneronstine.com> on 2002/07/03 04:41:48 UTC
Fw: For Dummies Guide
Is this true that Velocity can't handle East Asian languages?
Sorry if this e-mail is badly formatted I can't get Outlook to switch it to
text-only.
-warner
----- Original Message -----
From: ninja@linuxone.co.kr
To: Turbine Users List ; Warner Onstine
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
The problems is Velocity does not suport well east asian languages aka two
byte languages.
It just assumes that these languages are compatible with UTF-8 unlike JSP or
pure servlet.
These lanuages are not compatible with UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1(except english
area) and must
be processed with considerations like what kind of code page the running
environment uses and
what kind of code page the page uses and the client uses.
----- Original Message -----
From: Warner Onstine
To: Turbine Users List
Sent: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:10:27 -0700
Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
Not to sound harsh, but have you looked at this:
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/fsd.html
I think it explains them pretty well, but I'll break it down simply.
Page - it contains and coordinates the templates, screens and actions, so
you don't need to worry about it, just understand it
Screen - your content
Layouts - how your page will look, plus your content
Navigation - common navigation for your webapp
Action - what you want to happen before a page gets called
All of these rely on a common naming scheme (ie - if there is a screen with
the name admin, then Turbine will look for corresponding Admin.java for
actions or Admin.vm for layouts)
In addition you can go with a Pull Model instead of Actions:
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/pullmodel.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/pullmodel-howto.html
This goes into greater detail on setting up Velocity:
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/velocity-site-howto.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/context-howto.html
Believe me, once you get into it, it'll be hard using other systems =). I've
done Struts/JSP programming and I much rather enjoy Turbine/Velocity
programming. There are some features that I like about Struts, and I hope I
will be able to help bringing in some of those as I get time ;-).
I hope this helps.
-warner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gray, Cameron C. [UltraSpeed]"
To: "'Turbine Users List'"
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: For Dummies Guide
> Sorry to add to the volume,
>
> I guess the underlying problem is I don't understand the relationship
> between actions, templates, screens and "page views" correctly.
>
> I have a good grasp of the Struts ideology, but not turbine.
>
> Any pointers?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
> Sent: 30 June 2002 17:24
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
>
>
> Have you checked out the TDK and the sample app, it is very explanatory.
>
> -warner
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gray, Cameron C. [UltraSpeed]"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:34 AM
> Subject: For Dummies Guide
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > I'm struggling with developing my first application with turbine. I
> > understand the torque portions, I think ;).
> >
> > I need some form of for-dummies guide to building a new application /
> > application structure. Could someone PLEEEEASSSEEE help....
> >
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
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Re: For Dummies Guide
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@adeptra.com>.
On 7/2/02 10:41 PM, "Warner Onstine" <sw...@warneronstine.com> wrote:
> Is this true that Velocity can't handle East Asian languages?
No. That's not true, unless a bug has appeared. We do several encoding
tests in the test-bed, and it includes two different encodings, "GBK" and
"UTF-8". GBK is two byte, IIRC.
I don't know how Turbine allows you to specify the encoding of the template
somewhere, but it does work for two-byte encodings.
Geir
>
> Sorry if this e-mail is badly formatted I can't get Outlook to switch it to
> text-only.
>
> -warner
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ninja@linuxone.co.kr
> To: Turbine Users List ; Warner Onstine
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
>
>
> The problems is Velocity does not suport well east asian languages aka two
> byte languages.
> It just assumes that these languages are compatible with UTF-8 unlike JSP or
> pure servlet.
> These lanuages are not compatible with UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1(except english
> area) and must
> be processed with considerations like what kind of code page the running
> environment uses and
> what kind of code page the page uses and the client uses.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Warner Onstine
> To: Turbine Users List
> Sent: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:10:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
>
> Not to sound harsh, but have you looked at this:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/fsd.html
>
> I think it explains them pretty well, but I'll break it down simply.
> Page - it contains and coordinates the templates, screens and actions, so
> you don't need to worry about it, just understand it
> Screen - your content
> Layouts - how your page will look, plus your content
> Navigation - common navigation for your webapp
> Action - what you want to happen before a page gets called
>
> All of these rely on a common naming scheme (ie - if there is a screen with
> the name admin, then Turbine will look for corresponding Admin.java for
> actions or Admin.vm for layouts)
>
> In addition you can go with a Pull Model instead of Actions:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/pullmodel.html
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/pullmodel-howto.html
>
> This goes into greater detail on setting up Velocity:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/velocity-site-howto.html
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/howto/context-howto.html
>
> Believe me, once you get into it, it'll be hard using other systems =). I've
> done Struts/JSP programming and I much rather enjoy Turbine/Velocity
> programming. There are some features that I like about Struts, and I hope I
> will be able to help bringing in some of those as I get time ;-).
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> -warner
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gray, Cameron C. [UltraSpeed]"
> To: "'Turbine Users List'"
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 9:44 AM
> Subject: RE: For Dummies Guide
>
>
>> Sorry to add to the volume,
>>
>> I guess the underlying problem is I don't understand the relationship
>> between actions, templates, screens and "page views" correctly.
>>
>> I have a good grasp of the Struts ideology, but not turbine.
>>
>> Any pointers?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Warner Onstine [mailto:sw-list@warneronstine.com]
>> Sent: 30 June 2002 17:24
>> To: Turbine Users List
>> Subject: Re: For Dummies Guide
>>
>>
>> Have you checked out the TDK and the sample app, it is very explanatory.
>>
>> -warner
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gray, Cameron C. [UltraSpeed]"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:34 AM
>> Subject: For Dummies Guide
>>
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I'm struggling with developing my first application with turbine. I
>>> understand the torque portions, I think ;).
>>>
>>> I need some form of for-dummies guide to building a new application /
>>> application structure. Could someone PLEEEEASSSEEE help....
>>>
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
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>>>
>>>
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