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Posted to user@geronimo.apache.org by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org> on 2005/06/07 03:19:08 UTC
proposal for new site
We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
documents for content.
An example of what it looks like now is here :
http://people.apache.org/~geirm/geronimo/
I put into the geronimo svn repo under /site (parallel tree to /
trunk) so people can play with it.
I think I captured all the info from the current site. The upside is
that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so adding content is a
breeze.
If I get lucky and there are no objections, I'd like to bring up as
the geronimo site ASAP, for a bunch of reasons. It's more up to date
(and I'll keep working on it..) and has the logo for ApacheCon EU,
coming up, which we do need to advertise...
yes, right now it's ant based (just type "ant" and it will generate)
and has the dependencies in svn (not optimal). We can convert to
maven if people really care and they want to go this direction.
Comments?
geir
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by toby cabot <to...@caboteria.org>.
> Ok. Will do that. Want to keep helping? :)
Sure!
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Ok. Will do that. Want to keep helping? :)
geir
On Jun 8, 2005, at 2:07 PM, toby cabot wrote:
>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
>> documents for content.
>>
>
> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -user
> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
> the "is
> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
> might
> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
> you can
> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
>
>
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
That's why I stopped cross posting....
:)
On Jun 8, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> Looks like Geir is already on this (mail on users list).... Darn
> cross posts
>
> -dain
>
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:07 AM, toby cabot wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>>>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-
>>>> based
>>>> documents for content.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -
>>> user
>>> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
>>> the "is
>>> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
>>> might
>>> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
>>> you can
>>> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>>>
>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wow, I can't believe we never applied that one. I'll apply the
>> applicable bit later today.
>>
>> Can you do me a favor and hold our feet to the fire next time we
>> slack off on a patch?
>>
>> Thanks a ton,
>>
>> -dain
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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geirm@apache.org
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Looks like Geir is already on this (mail on users list).... Darn
cross posts
-dain
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:07 AM, toby cabot wrote:
>
>
>>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-
>>> based
>>> documents for content.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -
>> user
>> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
>> the "is
>> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
>> might
>> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
>> you can
>> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
>>
>
> Wow, I can't believe we never applied that one. I'll apply the
> applicable bit later today.
>
> Can you do me a favor and hold our feet to the fire next time we
> slack off on a patch?
>
> Thanks a ton,
>
> -dain
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Looks like Geir is already on this (mail on users list).... Darn
cross posts
-dain
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:07 AM, toby cabot wrote:
>
>
>>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-
>>> based
>>> documents for content.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -
>> user
>> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
>> the "is
>> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
>> might
>> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
>> you can
>> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
>>
>
> Wow, I can't believe we never applied that one. I'll apply the
> applicable bit later today.
>
> Can you do me a favor and hold our feet to the fire next time we
> slack off on a patch?
>
> Thanks a ton,
>
> -dain
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:07 AM, toby cabot wrote:
>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
>> documents for content.
>>
>
> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -user
> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
> the "is
> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
> might
> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
> you can
> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
Wow, I can't believe we never applied that one. I'll apply the
applicable bit later today.
Can you do me a favor and hold our feet to the fire next time we
slack off on a patch?
Thanks a ton,
-dain
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:07 AM, toby cabot wrote:
>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
>> documents for content.
>>
>
> Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -user
> list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem
> the "is
> Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You
> might
> want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that
> you can
> use. You can at least close the bug ;)
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
Wow, I can't believe we never applied that one. I'll apply the
applicable bit later today.
Can you do me a favor and hold our feet to the fire next time we
slack off on a patch?
Thanks a ton,
-dain
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by toby cabot <to...@caboteria.org>.
> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
> documents for content.
Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -user
list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem the "is
Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You might
want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that you can
use. You can at least close the bug ;)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
I hope you get a broadband connection then!
Have a good vacation
geir
On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:38 AM, anita kulshreshtha wrote:
> --- "GeirGeirnMagnusson" <geirgeirmcapache> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:37 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote,
>>>
>>
>> You weren't
>>
>>
>>> I'd still like to know what others think. We
>>>
>> haven't heard from
>>
>>> very many people on this thread.
>>>
>>> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion
>>>
>> on the website,
>>
>>> what do you think?
>>>
>>> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people
>>>
>> privileged with
>>
>>> commit access. Speak up :)
>>>
>
> I will be vacationing in India for 2 months! If I
> manage to get a braobroadband connection ( or a
> reliable dial up), you will hear from me. Until then
> ...
> Cheers
> Anita
>
>
>
>>
>> It's out there. Comments and patches appreciated.
>> If people really
>> don't like it, we rollback (easy to do) and then
>> replace with the
>> offered alternative :)
>>
>> geirgeir
>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400,
>>>
> GeirGeirMagnMagnusson wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok -Ok pushed it out. When the servers syncsynch
>>>>
>> will be there.
>>
>>>>
>>>> We need a more complete list of dependencies -
>>>>
>> and the intention
>>
>>>> isn't our dep dept, but rather the
>>>>
>> "collaboration" list. We have a
>>
>>>> dep depclogging, for example, but I wouldn't
>>>>
>> consider that a
>>
>>>> collaboration.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I'll summarize the roadroadmapcussion and
>>>>
>> put that to the dev
>>
> dev>> list and then to the site...
>
>>>>
>>>> geirgeir>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400,
>>>>>
> GeirGeirMagnMagnusson wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins
>>>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400,
>>>>>>>
> GeirGeirMagnMagnusson
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to
>>>>>>>>
>> fully generate, so
>>
>>>>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite
>>>>>>>
>> step in the right
>>
>>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this,
>>>>>>
>> even as a temporary
>>
>>>>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to
>>>>>>
>> contribute to it - at
>>
>>>>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and
>>>>>>
>> get the ApacApacheCon
>>
>>>>>> ad on it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We
>>>>>
>> can get fancy as
>>
>>>>> time allows. Baby steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> GeirGeirnMagnusson
>>>>
>> +1-203-665-6437
>>
>>>> geirgeirmcapache
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> GeirGeirnMagnusson
>> +1-203-665-6437
>> geirgeirmcapache
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by anita kulshreshtha <a_...@yahoo.com>.
--- "GeirGeirnMagnusson" <geirgeirmcapache> wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:37 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> > I didn't mean to be the deciding vote,
>
> You weren't
>
> > I'd still like to know what others think. We
> haven't heard from
> > very many people on this thread.
> >
> > Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion
> on the website,
> > what do you think?
> >
> > Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people
> privileged with
> > commit access. Speak up :)
I will be vacationing in India for 2 months! If I
manage to get a braobroadband connection ( or a
reliable dial up), you will hear from me. Until then
...
Cheers
Anita
>
> It's out there. Comments and patches appreciated.
> If people really
> don't like it, we rollback (easy to do) and then
> replace with the
> offered alternative :)
>
> geirgeir
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400,
GeirGeirMagnMagnusson wrote:
> >
> >> Ok -Ok pushed it out. When the servers syncsynch
> will be there.
> >>
> >> We need a more complete list of dependencies -
> and the intention
> >> isn't our dep dept, but rather the
> "collaboration" list. We have a
> >> dep depclogging, for example, but I wouldn't
> consider that a
> >> collaboration.
> >>
> >> Also, I'll summarize the roadroadmapcussion and
> put that to the dev
dev>> list and then to the site...
> >>
> >> geirgeir>>
> >> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400,
GeirGeirMagnMagnusson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400,
GeirGeirMagnMagnusson
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to
> fully generate, so
> >>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite
> step in the right
> >>>>> direction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this,
> even as a temporary
> >>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to
> contribute to it - at
> >>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and
> get the ApacApacheCon
> >>>> ad on it...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We
> can get fancy as
> >>> time allows. Baby steps.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> GeirGeirnMagnusson
> +1-203-665-6437
> >> geirgeirmcapache
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> GeirGeirnMagnusson
> +1-203-665-6437
> geirgeirmcapache
>
>
>
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:37 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote,
You weren't
> I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from
> very many people on this thread.
>
> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website,
> what do you think?
>
> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with
> commit access. Speak up :)
It's out there. Comments and patches appreciated. If people really
don't like it, we rollback (easy to do) and then replace with the
offered alternative :)
geir
>
> -David
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
>>
>> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
>> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
>> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
>> collaboration.
>>
>> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
>> list and then to the site...
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
>>>>> direction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
>>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
>>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
>>>> ad on it...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
>>> time allows. Baby steps.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 7, 2005, at 2:37 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote,
You weren't
> I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from
> very many people on this thread.
>
> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website,
> what do you think?
>
> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with
> commit access. Speak up :)
It's out there. Comments and patches appreciated. If people really
don't like it, we rollback (easy to do) and then replace with the
offered alternative :)
geir
>
> -David
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
>>
>> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
>> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
>> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
>> collaboration.
>>
>> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
>> list and then to the site...
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr.
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
>>>>> direction.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
>>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
>>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
>>>> ad on it...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
>>> time allows. Baby steps.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 6/9/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> > Yup, the maven2 site is actually a mix of APT and xdoc format.
>
> Nice. APT is so easy to work with. For those of you that haven't
> use it yet, here is a link:
>
> http://www.xmlmind.com/aptconvert.html
I second that. APT is extremely powerful yet very simple.
Bruce
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Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:00 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 00:04 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> So we can repurpose the xdoc material w/ m2?
>>
>
> Yup, the maven2 site is actually a mix of APT and xdoc format.
Nice. APT is so easy to work with. For those of you that haven't
use it yet, here is a link:
http://www.xmlmind.com/aptconvert.html
-dain
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 00:04 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> So we can repurpose the xdoc material w/ m2?
Yup, the maven2 site is actually a mix of APT and xdoc format.
> (Meaning when we get
> over to m2, we can regen the site with that?)
Definitely. The only difference is the directory structure and there's a
site.xml file that's a little different then the navigation.xml but xdoc
files as is work in m2.
> geir
>
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 11:37 -0700, David Blevins wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what
> >> others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
> >>
> >> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website,
> >> what do you think?
> >>
> >> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with
> >> commit access. Speak up :)
> >>
> >
> > I'm not volunteering to do you site here but the site stuff in m2 is
> > fully functional (http://maven.apache.org/maven2) and it uses velocity
> > for the page layout, but the actual documentation can be written in
> > APT,
> > xdoc, docbook, and the simple FAQ markup that makes writing FAQs
> > pretty
> > easy. It's super fast, has been designed for i18n and the
> > documentation
> > supports macros the first of which is the snippet macro ripped off
> > from
> > confluence. With that you can reference whole/snippets of code from a
> > document at an arbitrary URL.
> >
> > The maven site for m2 is here if you want to see the structure:
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven/components/trunk/maven-site/
> >
> > With this you get the speed you want and you can keep all your
> > existing
> > documentation. It will integrate with m2 which will specifically deal
> > with aggregation of doco from modules. But right now it's fully
> > functional, and fast.
> >
> > Just figured I'd let you know. Using velocity for the layout allows a
> > lot of flexibility as we expect people will write templates for
> > various
> > language support. And I'm obviously a fan of Velocity :-)
> >
> >
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
> >>>
> >>> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
> >>> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
> >>> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
> >>> collaboration.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
> >>> list and then to the site...
> >>>
> >>> geir
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr.
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> >>>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> >>>>>> direction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a
> >>>>> temporary
> >>>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> >>>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the
> >>>>> ApacheCon EU
> >>>>> ad on it...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> >>>> time allows. Baby steps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >>> geirm@apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason at maven.org
> > http://maven.apache.org
> >
> > the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> >
> > -- Shakespeare
> >
> >
>
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason at maven.org
http://maven.apache.org
First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea,
so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second,
the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints,
as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might.
-- Plato, Phaedrus (Notes on the Synthesis of Form by C. Alexander)
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
So we can repurpose the xdoc material w/ m2? (Meaning when we get
over to m2, we can regen the site with that?)
geir
On Jun 8, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 11:37 -0700, David Blevins wrote:
>
>> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what
>> others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
>>
>> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website,
>> what do you think?
>>
>> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with
>> commit access. Speak up :)
>>
>
> I'm not volunteering to do you site here but the site stuff in m2 is
> fully functional (http://maven.apache.org/maven2) and it uses velocity
> for the page layout, but the actual documentation can be written in
> APT,
> xdoc, docbook, and the simple FAQ markup that makes writing FAQs
> pretty
> easy. It's super fast, has been designed for i18n and the
> documentation
> supports macros the first of which is the snippet macro ripped off
> from
> confluence. With that you can reference whole/snippets of code from a
> document at an arbitrary URL.
>
> The maven site for m2 is here if you want to see the structure:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven/components/trunk/maven-site/
>
> With this you get the speed you want and you can keep all your
> existing
> documentation. It will integrate with m2 which will specifically deal
> with aggregation of doco from modules. But right now it's fully
> functional, and fast.
>
> Just figured I'd let you know. Using velocity for the layout allows a
> lot of flexibility as we expect people will write templates for
> various
> language support. And I'm obviously a fan of Velocity :-)
>
>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
>>>
>>> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
>>> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
>>> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
>>> collaboration.
>>>
>>> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
>>> list and then to the site...
>>>
>>> geir
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr.
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>>>>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
>>>>>> direction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a
>>>>> temporary
>>>>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
>>>>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the
>>>>> ApacheCon EU
>>>>> ad on it...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
>>>> time allows. Baby steps.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason at maven.org
> http://maven.apache.org
>
> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>
> -- Shakespeare
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 11:37 -0700, David Blevins wrote:
> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
>
> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website, what do you think?
>
> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with commit access. Speak up :)
I'm not volunteering to do you site here but the site stuff in m2 is
fully functional (http://maven.apache.org/maven2) and it uses velocity
for the page layout, but the actual documentation can be written in APT,
xdoc, docbook, and the simple FAQ markup that makes writing FAQs pretty
easy. It's super fast, has been designed for i18n and the documentation
supports macros the first of which is the snippet macro ripped off from
confluence. With that you can reference whole/snippets of code from a
document at an arbitrary URL.
The maven site for m2 is here if you want to see the structure:
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven/components/trunk/maven-site/
With this you get the speed you want and you can keep all your existing
documentation. It will integrate with m2 which will specifically deal
with aggregation of doco from modules. But right now it's fully
functional, and fast.
Just figured I'd let you know. Using velocity for the layout allows a
lot of flexibility as we expect people will write templates for various
language support. And I'm obviously a fan of Velocity :-)
> -David
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
> >
> > We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
> > isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
> > dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
> > collaboration.
> >
> > Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
> > list and then to the site...
> >
> > geir
> >
> > On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> > >>>>adding content is a breeze.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> > >>>direction.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
> > >>measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> > >>the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
> > >>ad on it...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >+1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> > >time allows. Baby steps.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >David
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > geirm@apache.org
> >
>
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason at maven.org
http://maven.apache.org
the course of true love never did run smooth ...
-- Shakespeare
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 6/7/05, David Blevins <da...@visi.com> wrote:
> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
>
> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website, what do you think?
>
> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with commit access. Speak up :)
+1. It's highly important to have current information available to the
community. We can get more sophisticated later.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/
Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 6/7/05, David Blevins <da...@visi.com> wrote:
> I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
>
> Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website, what do you think?
>
> Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with commit access. Speak up :)
+1. It's highly important to have current information available to the
community. We can get more sophisticated later.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/
Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website, what do you think?
Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with commit access. Speak up :)
-David
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
>
> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
> collaboration.
>
> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
> list and then to the site...
>
> geir
>
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> >>>>adding content is a breeze.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> >>>direction.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
> >>measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> >>the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
> >>ad on it...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >+1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> >time allows. Baby steps.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >David
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
I didn't mean to be the deciding vote, I'd still like to know what others think. We haven't heard from very many people on this thread.
Hey everyone out there who has ever had an opinion on the website, what do you think?
Again, I'm talking to everyone, not just people privileged with commit access. Speak up :)
-David
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:57:53PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
>
> We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
> isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
> dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
> collaboration.
>
> Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
> list and then to the site...
>
> geir
>
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> >>>>adding content is a breeze.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> >>>direction.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
> >>measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> >>the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
> >>ad on it...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >+1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> >time allows. Baby steps.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >David
> >
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
collaboration.
Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
list and then to the site...
geir
On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
>>> direction.
>>>
>>
>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
>> ad on it...
>>
>>
>
> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> time allows. Baby steps.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Ok - I pushed it out. When the servers synch, it will be there.
We need a more complete list of dependencies - and the intention
isn't our dep list, but rather the "collaboration" list. We have a
dep on clogging, for example, but I wouldn't consider that a
collaboration.
Also, I'll summarize the roadmap discussion and put that to the dev
list and then to the site...
geir
On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, David Blevins wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>>>> adding content is a breeze.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
>>> direction.
>>>
>>
>> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
>> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
>> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
>> ad on it...
>>
>>
>
> +1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as
> time allows. Baby steps.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> >>The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> >>adding content is a breeze.
> >>
> >
> >That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> >direction.
>
> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
> ad on it...
>
+1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as time allows. Baby steps.
Thanks,
David
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:59:26AM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> >>The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> >>adding content is a breeze.
> >>
> >
> >That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> >direction.
>
> Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
> measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
> the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
> ad on it...
>
+1 From me for the same reasons you state. We can get fancy as time allows. Baby steps.
Thanks,
David
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>> adding content is a breeze.
>>
>
> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> direction.
Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
ad on it...
geir
>
> -David
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 7, 2005, at 3:49 AM, David Blevins wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
>> adding content is a breeze.
>>
>
> That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right
> direction.
Lets decide if we want to go forward with this, even as a temporary
measure. Maybe people will bite and want to contribute to it - at
the worst, we get the site updated quickly and get the ApacheCon EU
ad on it...
geir
>
> -David
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> adding content is a breeze.
That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right direction.
-David
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 10:03 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:54 PM:
>
>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:48 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:42 PM:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you
>>>>> know),
>>>>> coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully
>>>>> incomplete.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yep, yep and yep. I was going to summarize our roadmap
>>>> discussion for that but didn't get to it.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't get to the coding standards, and deps clearly needs to
>>>> be finished. re the deps, I wanted people to review the
>>>> language about 'mosaic'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
>>>>> listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer
>>>>> list -- as it
>>>>> may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something
>>>>> useful" list.
>>>>> Though if we want that, let's at least designate the
>>>>> committers somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> both are fixed, I added Jeff, and yes, that's fine - it was
>>>> just some phrasing from a vel page.... and now fixed.
>>>>
>>>> Can you live w/ the approach?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks ok to me.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to generate those reports?
>>>
>>
>>
>> what reports?
>>
>
> The maven reports. It's not a biggie, I just liked browsing them
> from time to time.
Oh right - wasn't sure - they aren't on our website right now. Maybe
we can autogen and post them to to the site...
geir
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:54 PM:
>
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:48 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:42 PM:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you know),
>>>> coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully
>>>> incomplete.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> yep, yep and yep. I was going to summarize our roadmap discussion
>>> for that but didn't get to it.
>>>
>>> I didn't get to the coding standards, and deps clearly needs to be
>>> finished. re the deps, I wanted people to review the language
>>> about 'mosaic'
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
>>>> listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer list
>>>> -- as it
>>>> may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something useful"
>>>> list.
>>>> Though if we want that, let's at least designate the committers
>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> both are fixed, I added Jeff, and yes, that's fine - it was just
>>> some phrasing from a vel page.... and now fixed.
>>>
>>> Can you live w/ the approach?
>>>
>>
>> Looks ok to me.
>>
>> Is there a way to generate those reports?
>
>
> what reports?
The maven reports. It's not a biggie, I just liked browsing them from
time to time.
Regards,
Alan
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@4quarters.com>.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:48 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:42 PM:
>
>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you know),
>>> coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully
>>> incomplete.
>>>
>>
>>
>> yep, yep and yep. I was going to summarize our roadmap
>> discussion for that but didn't get to it.
>>
>> I didn't get to the coding standards, and deps clearly needs to
>> be finished. re the deps, I wanted people to review the language
>> about 'mosaic'
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
>>> listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer
>>> list -- as it
>>> may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something
>>> useful" list.
>>> Though if we want that, let's at least designate the committers
>>> somehow.
>>>
>>
>>
>> both are fixed, I added Jeff, and yes, that's fine - it was just
>> some phrasing from a vel page.... and now fixed.
>>
>> Can you live w/ the approach?
>>
>
> Looks ok to me.
>
> Is there a way to generate those reports?
what reports?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
>
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geir@optonline.net
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote, On 6/6/2005 6:42 PM:
>
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
>
>> Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you know),
>> coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully incomplete.
>
>
> yep, yep and yep. I was going to summarize our roadmap discussion
> for that but didn't get to it.
>
> I didn't get to the coding standards, and deps clearly needs to be
> finished. re the deps, I wanted people to review the language about
> 'mosaic'
>
>>
>> Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
>> listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer list --
>> as it
>> may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something useful" list.
>> Though if we want that, let's at least designate the committers
>> somehow.
>
>
> both are fixed, I added Jeff, and yes, that's fine - it was just some
> phrasing from a vel page.... and now fixed.
>
> Can you live w/ the approach?
Looks ok to me.
Is there a way to generate those reports?
Regards,
Alan
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@4quarters.com>.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you know),
> coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully
> incomplete.
yep, yep and yep. I was going to summarize our roadmap discussion
for that but didn't get to it.
I didn't get to the coding standards, and deps clearly needs to be
finished. re the deps, I wanted people to review the language about
'mosaic'
>
> Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
> listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer list
> -- as it
> may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something useful"
> list.
> Though if we want that, let's at least designate the committers
> somehow.
both are fixed, I added Jeff, and yes, that's fine - it was just some
phrasing from a vel page.... and now fixed.
Can you live w/ the approach?
geir
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
>> documents for content.
>>
>> An example of what it looks like now is here :
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~geirm/geronimo/
>>
>> I put into the geronimo svn repo under /site (parallel tree to /
>> trunk) so people can play with it.
>>
>> I think I captured all the info from the current site. The upside is
>> that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so adding content is a
>> breeze.
>>
>> If I get lucky and there are no objections, I'd like to bring up as
>> the geronimo site ASAP, for a bunch of reasons. It's more up to date
>> (and I'll keep working on it..) and has the logo for ApacheCon EU,
>> coming up, which we do need to advertise...
>>
>> yes, right now it's ant based (just type "ant" and it will generate)
>> and has the dependencies in svn (not optimal). We can convert to
>> maven if people really care and they want to go this direction.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> geir
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geir@optonline.net
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
Looks OK to me, but Road Map is empty (which I guess you know),
coding standards are missing, and dependencies are woefully incomplete.
Also, I think Simone's name is spelled wrong, John Sisson is
listed twice, and I'd like to phrase the page as a committer list -- as it
may be hard to maintain an "everyone who's done something useful" list.
Though if we want that, let's at least designate the committers somehow.
Aaron
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
> documents for content.
>
> An example of what it looks like now is here :
>
> http://people.apache.org/~geirm/geronimo/
>
> I put into the geronimo svn repo under /site (parallel tree to /
> trunk) so people can play with it.
>
> I think I captured all the info from the current site. The upside is
> that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so adding content is a
> breeze.
>
> If I get lucky and there are no objections, I'd like to bring up as
> the geronimo site ASAP, for a bunch of reasons. It's more up to date
> (and I'll keep working on it..) and has the logo for ApacheCon EU,
> coming up, which we do need to advertise...
>
> yes, right now it's ant based (just type "ant" and it will generate)
> and has the dependencies in svn (not optimal). We can convert to
> maven if people really care and they want to go this direction.
>
> Comments?
>
> geir
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@4quarters.com>.
On Jun 6, 2005, at 11:05 PM, Brent Worden wrote:
> I noticed all the page title names are prefaced with "Velocity -".
> Is this
> a residual effect from using Velocity and can it be controlled?
>
Doh! Fixed. Thanks
> Brent
>
> "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org> wrote
> in message news:049A6755-251C-4151-902E-F9B17618411E@apache.org...
>
>> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
>> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
>> documents for content.
>>
>> An example of what it looks like now is here :
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~geirm/geronimo/
>>
>> I put into the geronimo svn repo under /site (parallel tree to /
>> trunk) so
>> people can play with it.
>>
>> I think I captured all the info from the current site. The upside is
>> that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so adding content is a
>> breeze.
>>
>> If I get lucky and there are no objections, I'd like to bring up
>> as the
>> geronimo site ASAP, for a bunch of reasons. It's more up to date
>> (and
>> I'll keep working on it..) and has the logo for ApacheCon EU,
>> coming up,
>> which we do need to advertise...
>>
>> yes, right now it's ant based (just type "ant" and it will
>> generate) and
>> has the dependencies in svn (not optimal). We can convert to
>> maven if
>> people really care and they want to go this direction.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> geir
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geir@optonline.net
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by Brent Worden <br...@worden.org>.
I noticed all the page title names are prefaced with "Velocity -". Is this
a residual effect from using Velocity and can it be controlled?
Brent
"Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org> wrote
in message news:049A6755-251C-4151-902E-F9B17618411E@apache.org...
> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
> documents for content.
>
> An example of what it looks like now is here :
>
> http://people.apache.org/~geirm/geronimo/
>
> I put into the geronimo svn repo under /site (parallel tree to / trunk) so
> people can play with it.
>
> I think I captured all the info from the current site. The upside is
> that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so adding content is a
> breeze.
>
> If I get lucky and there are no objections, I'd like to bring up as the
> geronimo site ASAP, for a bunch of reasons. It's more up to date (and
> I'll keep working on it..) and has the logo for ApacheCon EU, coming up,
> which we do need to advertise...
>
> yes, right now it's ant based (just type "ant" and it will generate) and
> has the dependencies in svn (not optimal). We can convert to maven if
> people really care and they want to go this direction.
>
> Comments?
>
> geir
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by toby cabot <to...@caboteria.org>.
> We've been talking about new site content for a while, so I threw
> together a quick, simple site that uses velocity and simple xml-based
> documents for content.
Looks much better than the old site! Based on discussion on the -user
list in February I submitted bug 575 which was an attempt to stem the "is
Geronimo alive?" questions that popped up from time to time. You might
want to take a look at that patch to see if there's any text that you can
use. You can at least close the bug ;)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-575
Re: proposal for new site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:19:08PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> The upside is that it takes <10 seconds to fully generate, so
> adding content is a breeze.
That right there is enough for me. A definite step in the right direction.
-David