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Posted to users@royale.apache.org by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> on 2021/03/18 16:49:51 UTC
Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Hi:
Apache Royale hopes to have a series of five or six presentations at
ApacheCon 2021, a virtual event that will take place September 21-23 of
this year [1]. We presented five talks at ApacheCon 2020 [2], and people
seem to have found them useful.
As we plan for this year's ApacheCon, what Royale presentations would you
like to see?
Andrew Wetmore
1. https://www.apachecon.com/
2. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=apache+royale+apachecon
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
Yep. Much easier to see now. I am wicked psyched about this. I have never
been to ApacheCon, but since it is virtual, I will get to join in on the fun
this year!! Can't wait to see what the Royale Team puts together for this.
I have been telling other developers in my area about Royale, I have high
hopes that it will catch on and help keep Flex and AIR alive well into the
future.
One codebase that I can do everything I need for my business is a dream!
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
I have added to the planning page some of the suggestions in the thread so
far.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:55 PM Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if you go to https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/wiki you should see
> a link to ApacheCon 2021 under "Presentations" at the top of the nav menu
> on the right side of the page.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:54 PM Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have added the "presentations" planning pages to the top of the
>> right-side menu for now. I will move them down to a more appropriate spot
>> when the current planning period is over.
>>
>> a
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:27 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, eventually. It is almost towards the bottom, and if you don't
>>> scroll
>>> open the "pages" and then click "show 52 more pages" at the bottom, you
>>> would never find it. In other words, it is kind of buried. But it is
>>> there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Wetmore
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>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
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> Andrew Wetmore
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> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
So if you go to https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/wiki you should see a
link to ApacheCon 2021 under "Presentations" at the top of the nav menu on
the right side of the page.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 6:54 PM Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have added the "presentations" planning pages to the top of the
> right-side menu for now. I will move them down to a more appropriate spot
> when the current planning period is over.
>
> a
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:27 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, eventually. It is almost towards the bottom, and if you don't scroll
>> open the "pages" and then click "show 52 more pages" at the bottom, you
>> would never find it. In other words, it is kind of buried. But it is
>> there.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
>>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
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Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
I have added the "presentations" planning pages to the top of the
right-side menu for now. I will move them down to a more appropriate spot
when the current planning period is over.
a
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:27 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Yes, eventually. It is almost towards the bottom, and if you don't scroll
> open the "pages" and then click "show 52 more pages" at the bottom, you
> would never find it. In other words, it is kind of buried. But it is
> there.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
Yes, eventually. It is almost towards the bottom, and if you don't scroll
open the "pages" and then click "show 52 more pages" at the bottom, you
would never find it. In other words, it is kind of buried. But it is
there.
--
Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
If you open the list of pages on the right, and expand it to show all
pages, do you then see the link to this page and to the page for ApacheCon
2020?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 4:13 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I can see the link that you posted directly. But if I just go to the wiki
> myself and try to find that link, I don't see it.
>
>
>
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>
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http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
I can see the link that you posted directly. But if I just go to the wiki
myself and try to find that link, I don't see it.
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
We have a page on the Royale wiki [1] to track developing our contributions
to ApacheCon 2021. Can folks who are not project committers see it? Edit it?
https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/wiki/Royale-at-ApacheCon-2021
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:56 PM Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> These are all great suggestions. And I hope for more!
>
> The one about a roadmap: in general, Apache projects don't have roadmaps
> because it's almost all volunteers doing everything and people work on the
> things for which they have both the skills and the interest. I would love
> to have a "wish list" that would tell us, when we had checked off all the
> boxes, that we were ready for 1.0...but that's probably as close to a
> roadmap as we can get.
>
> a
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:46 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> - Also, maybe a roadmap of future directions you plan to explore with
>> Royale.
>> Maybe what we can expect in six months. When to expect a version 1.0.0,
>> A
>> list of any libraries or features you intend to wrap and present with
>> Royale
>> in the future, like ECharts, to make life easier.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
>>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Andrew Wetmore <co...@gmail.com>.
These are all great suggestions. And I hope for more!
The one about a roadmap: in general, Apache projects don't have roadmaps
because it's almost all volunteers doing everything and people work on the
things for which they have both the skills and the interest. I would love
to have a "wish list" that would tell us, when we had checked off all the
boxes, that we were ready for 1.0...but that's probably as close to a
roadmap as we can get.
a
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:46 PM Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> - Also, maybe a roadmap of future directions you plan to explore with
> Royale.
> Maybe what we can expect in six months. When to expect a version 1.0.0, A
> list of any libraries or features you intend to wrap and present with
> Royale
> in the future, like ECharts, to make life easier.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
>
--
Andrew Wetmore
http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
- Also, maybe a roadmap of future directions you plan to explore with Royale.
Maybe what we can expect in six months. When to expect a version 1.0.0, A
list of any libraries or features you intend to wrap and present with Royale
in the future, like ECharts, to make life easier.
--
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RE: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Maria Jose Esteve <mj...@iest.com>.
+1 for All 😝 and an extra ++ 1 for the Externs talk, as Piotr says "if it can be done in js ... it can be done in Royale" and that I think a strong point.
Regarding how we can help, I am also with Bilbosax, "if you tell me how I can help, ... I will try 😝"
I would very much like to be able to contribute to ECharts but it is becoming increasingly clear that I lack a lot of knowledge to be able to do it as it is required here. Anyway I do not give up and I offer to form a tandem with any other partner who is interested.
Hello Andrewwwwwwwwww !!!!!!!! How long without reading you ??? I missed you :*
Hiedra
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De: Steve Easley <st...@redminnow.com>
Enviado el: jueves, 18 de marzo de 2021 19:45
Para: users@royale.apache.org
Asunto: Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
absolutely +1 for beads and externs discussions.
Steve Easley
903 Eastwind Dr.
Westerville, OH 43081
614.893.8169
steve@redminnow.com<ma...@redminnow.com>
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> Two more suggestions:
>
> - Maybe a short talk on Beads, on how and where to find them. My
> biggest problem is that you guys have created beads for a lot of
> scenarios, but I don't even know they exist. Since it is such a huge
> concept in the Royale way of web designing, I think this needs to be a
> little clearer for new people. I come from Flex, so it made sense to
> look for these things, but for a new user out of college who has never
> touched Royale, I fear they may be lost to the idea.
>
> - How can we contribute. I am really enjoying working with Royale and
> could see it being a cornerstone to my web development as long as it
> keeps progressing as it is. Unfortunately, I do not believe that I am
> capable enough of a programmer to play with the underbelly of Royale
> and write/modify classes, integrate it with a compiler, etc. But I
> could help with documentation from time to time, which I think is
> SORELY needed for new users. You guys have created great examples,
> but it is unclear how to easily find them. You demonstrate that
> people can use tools a certain way, but then something gets missed
> because the example explanation was just a paragraph. Following the
> various threads, I don't think a single user hasn't run into a big
> headache, myself included, when trying to incorporate AMF which is a
> HUGE advantage to other frameworks. I think of a very clear document
> with very clear and concise instructions and how to debug it, etc
> would be vastly helpful. This is a way that I would be able to
> contribute some of my time in a constructive way. Give people a clear idea of how they can help, and you may find yourself getting a lot more help.
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Steve Easley <st...@redminnow.com>.
absolutely +1 for beads and externs discussions.
Steve Easley
903 Eastwind Dr.
Westerville, OH 43081
614.893.8169
steve@redminnow.com
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Two more suggestions:
>
> - Maybe a short talk on Beads, on how and where to find them. My biggest
> problem is that you guys have created beads for a lot of scenarios, but I
> don't even know they exist. Since it is such a huge concept in the Royale
> way of web designing, I think this needs to be a little clearer for new
> people. I come from Flex, so it made sense to look for these things, but
> for a new user out of college who has never touched Royale, I fear they may
> be lost to the idea.
>
> - How can we contribute. I am really enjoying working with Royale and could
> see it being a cornerstone to my web development as long as it keeps
> progressing as it is. Unfortunately, I do not believe that I am capable
> enough of a programmer to play with the underbelly of Royale and
> write/modify classes, integrate it with a compiler, etc. But I could help
> with documentation from time to time, which I think is SORELY needed for new
> users. You guys have created great examples, but it is unclear how to
> easily find them. You demonstrate that people can use tools a certain way,
> but then something gets missed because the example explanation was just a
> paragraph. Following the various threads, I don't think a single user
> hasn't run into a big headache, myself included, when trying to incorporate
> AMF which is a HUGE advantage to other frameworks. I think of a very clear
> document with very clear and concise instructions and how to debug it, etc
> would be vastly helpful. This is a way that I would be able to contribute
> some of my time in a constructive way. Give people a clear idea of how they
> can help, and you may find yourself getting a lot more help.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-royale-users.20374.n8.nabble.com/
Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
Two more suggestions:
- Maybe a short talk on Beads, on how and where to find them. My biggest
problem is that you guys have created beads for a lot of scenarios, but I
don't even know they exist. Since it is such a huge concept in the Royale
way of web designing, I think this needs to be a little clearer for new
people. I come from Flex, so it made sense to look for these things, but
for a new user out of college who has never touched Royale, I fear they may
be lost to the idea.
- How can we contribute. I am really enjoying working with Royale and could
see it being a cornerstone to my web development as long as it keeps
progressing as it is. Unfortunately, I do not believe that I am capable
enough of a programmer to play with the underbelly of Royale and
write/modify classes, integrate it with a compiler, etc. But I could help
with documentation from time to time, which I think is SORELY needed for new
users. You guys have created great examples, but it is unclear how to
easily find them. You demonstrate that people can use tools a certain way,
but then something gets missed because the example explanation was just a
paragraph. Following the various threads, I don't think a single user
hasn't run into a big headache, myself included, when trying to incorporate
AMF which is a HUGE advantage to other frameworks. I think of a very clear
document with very clear and concise instructions and how to debug it, etc
would be vastly helpful. This is a way that I would be able to contribute
some of my time in a constructive way. Give people a clear idea of how they
can help, and you may find yourself getting a lot more help.
--
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Re: Royale presentations at ApacheCon 2021
Posted by Bilbosax <wa...@comcast.net>.
I'd like to see a talk on Externs, things like incorporating external
javascript libraries like ECharts, spinner libraries, google maps, anything
at all on how to bring external javascript into the Royale environment and
take advantage of those tools seamlessly.
Any kind of talk about cross-browser compatibility and adapting in Royale.
Because Royale/Flex kind of abstracts a lot of HTML/CSS/Javascript away from
us, I often find it challenging to figure out how to deal with changes to
make my app work on a particular browser from within the framework.
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