Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

[Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>]

Sorry if I messed this up for you.

FYI, collections is using the subpage named anchor tags to get the user to
the right part of the page.

Stephen

----- Original Message -----
From: "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> look like we've missed the chance for this :(
>
> this change needed infrastructure to update a list of paths to make the
> cgi script work with the new url. unfortunately, it took a few days to
> get this processed. in the mean time, commons collections was released.
>
> it's a bit of a pity since i've spent this evening working on new
> download pages but i'm rolling back these changes and asking
> infrastructure to remove the url from the list. we'll probably need
> more coordination (and probably a pmc sanctioned release freeze) to
> make changes to the download pages. so, since henri has plans for a
> rethink, we might as well wait and move to the new system directly.
>
> oh well: win some, lose some. that's just the way it is...
>
> - robert
>
> On 20 Jun 2004, at 22:45, Henri Yandell wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> >>> PROPOSAL
> >>> --------
> >>> i'd like to shift all jakarta commons component downloads onto
> >>> separate
> >>> pages which are linked from the main ones. i think that this will
> >>> prolong the useful life of the original page without really effecting
> >>> it's utility.
> >> +1
> >
> > +1.
> >
> > I'd had some complaints from users about the difficulty of downloading
> > (too many click's). I like the dynamic closer.cgi page that the maven
> > download is using. We should just have a single download page with all
> > the
> > commons components on, and it should not mention mirrors at all.
> >
> > All links for downloads should then be aimed at the cgi, which will
> > have
> > all the mirror info for each file.
> >
> > Hen
> >
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

[robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>]

On 1 Jul 2004, at 21:54, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Have you already posted a version of your new page somewhere so we can
> look/complain?

this was mainly a structure change rather than look and feel.

> What's your next window for attempting it, and how long would you need 
> to
> freeze releases for (ie) rought estimate of how long infrastructure + 
> you
> will need)?

there's going to be a stream of commons releases coming up over the 
next few months. my main concern is that the download urls given on the 
announcements (and widely disseminated) will stop matching as soon as 
the release are moved to new pages. it's probably not worth pursuing 
this in the immediate future. this problem may have resolved itself by 
then (since TLPs should be hosting their own release download pages).

there are some changes which i'd like to see introduced which can be 
done without moving the commons releases away. i think now that users 
should be used to the mirrors by now so maybe we could alter the page 
to make things a little more user friendly. i'm inclined now to include 
the MD5 sums on the page (rather than linked) and add an index.

- robert


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Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

[Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>]

Have you already posted a version of your new page somewhere so we can
look/complain?

What's your next window for attempting it, and how long would you need to
freeze releases for (ie) rought estimate of how long infrastructure + you
will need)?

Hen

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On 30 Jun 2004, at 23:12, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > Sorry if I messed this up for you.
>
> we'll put this one down to bad luck.
>
> if infrastructure hadn't been so busy, i hadn't chosen an unusual page
> name (causing infrastructure to query the request) and my internet
> hadn't fallen down all evening on tuesday then this wouldn't have
> arisen. i was just a little frustrated, that's all.
>
> > FYI, collections is using the subpage named anchor tags to get the
> > user to
> > the right part of the page.
>
> yep but i was moving all the commons stuff onto another page.
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

[robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>]

On 30 Jun 2004, at 23:12, Stephen Colebourne wrote:

> Sorry if I messed this up for you.

we'll put this one down to bad luck.

if infrastructure hadn't been so busy, i hadn't chosen an unusual page 
name (causing infrastructure to query the request) and my internet 
hadn't fallen down all evening on tuesday then this wouldn't have 
arisen. i was just a little frustrated, that's all.

> FYI, collections is using the subpage named anchor tags to get the 
> user to
> the right part of the page.

yep but i was moving all the commons stuff onto another page.

- robert


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