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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com> on 2014/01/02 13:47:56 UTC
Re: New logo?
two more that I drew over the holidays:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png)
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png)
I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just
things that I have sketched...
At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
would need to check if we can use this one)
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I was
using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other cases I
traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from the point
of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another company using
the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask permission) but
also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if people really like
-9 then we would need to seek permission for that type of image and perhaps
try and commission somebody to draw a similar silhouette rather than my
direct trace. -12 is a composition including a direct trace of the outline
of a photo of the totem carving of the raven, but the inner detail I drew
myself as a study of the original... so slightly more complex origin...
again, if this type of look is popular we can look into getting the
approval to use the image.
If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I
just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey
if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to
a run-off of my creations)
On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>
> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>
> Finally, here is a raven totem
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>
> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background... just
> haven't had time to do it
>
>
> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>>
>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>>
>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven in
>> their logo
>>
>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser <ma...@simpligility.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
>>> looks
>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as a
>>> >> raven ..
>>> >
>>> > That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all.
>>> >
>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to
>>> look
>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird swirly
>>> > thing at the ankle.
>>> >
>>> > In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-)
>>>
>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
>>> these
>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a
>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>>>
>>> manfred
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RE: New logo?
Posted by Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com>.
Stephen,
Can you add the following two images to the contest entries?
http://s9.postimg.org/ubyk4kczj/maven6.png
http://s8.postimg.org/jdcbco351/maven5.png
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:33 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
And if you are not a nomadic developer (who jumps from project to project)
then a lot of the benefits of Maven will seem to get in your way... once you
are moving from project to project, knowing that you always have the
`deploy` tent to push the results of your build to the remote repository is
a "good thingT"
On 14 January 2014 16:30, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maven is like a village made from tents... you can move from location
> to location (project to project) and you bring all the same tents
> (phases / conventions as to how to build a project) with you. Because
> we are an Apache project we chose a tent that is keeping with the
> stylings of the Apache feather logo
>
> There's a post-hoc justification for you ;-)
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>> >
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-con
>> text.png
>>
>> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to
>> do with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially
>> since the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>>
>> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
>> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
>> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
>> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
>> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
>> link when they asked something about software project management or
>> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
>> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
>> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>>
>> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
>> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or
>> abstract symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think,
"yes!
>> that is Maven in action."
>>
>> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
>> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
>> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
>> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
>> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes
>> bring things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
And if you are not a nomadic developer (who jumps from project to project)
then a lot of the benefits of Maven will seem to get in your way... once
you are moving from project to project, knowing that you always have the
`deploy` tent to push the results of your build to the remote repository is
a "good thing™"
On 14 January 2014 16:30, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maven is like a village made from tents... you can move from location to
> location (project to project) and you bring all the same tents (phases /
> conventions as to how to build a project) with you. Because we are an
> Apache project we chose a tent that is keeping with the stylings of the
> Apache feather logo
>
> There's a post-hoc justification for you ;-)
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>> >
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>>
>> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
>> with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
>> the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>>
>> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
>> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
>> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
>> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
>> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
>> link when they asked something about software project management or
>> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
>> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
>> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>>
>> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
>> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
>> symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
>> that is Maven in action."
>>
>> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
>> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
>> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
>> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
>> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
>> things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Maven is like a village made from tents... you can move from location to
location (project to project) and you bring all the same tents (phases /
conventions as to how to build a project) with you. Because we are an
Apache project we chose a tent that is keeping with the stylings of the
Apache feather logo
There's a post-hoc justification for you ;-)
On 14 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
> with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
> the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
> link when they asked something about software project management or
> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>
> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
> symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
> that is Maven in action."
>
> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
> things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
maven-22: uses some of the imagery from the 60-seconds tutorial to form the
logo
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-22.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389716094692&api=v2
On 14 January 2014 15:55, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>> >
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>>
>> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
>> with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
>> the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>>
>> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
>> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
>> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
>> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
>> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
>> link when they asked something about software project management or
>> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
>> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
>> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>>
>> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
>> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
>> symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
>> that is Maven in action."
>>
>
> The best I have come up with for an image as to what Maven does is
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Tutorial%3A+Maven+in+60+seconds
>
> But that does not a good logo make.
>
> Our current "logo" is just the word "maven" with the 'a' in orange
>
> At least this version, or maven-21 includes the Apache feather... and
> hints at us being an Apache project...
>
>
>>
>> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
>> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
>> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
>> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
>> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
>> things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On 14 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
> with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
> the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
> link when they asked something about software project management or
> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>
> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
> symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
> that is Maven in action."
>
The best I have come up with for an image as to what Maven does is
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Tutorial%3A+Maven+in+60+seconds
But that does not a good logo make.
Our current "logo" is just the word "maven" with the 'a' in orange
At least this version, or maven-21 includes the Apache feather... and hints
at us being an Apache project...
>
> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
> things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
Love this logo. Very awesome.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
> *Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
> with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
> the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
> the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
> page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
> why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
> something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
> link when they asked something about software project management or
> build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
> link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
> pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
>
> Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
> do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
> symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
> that is Maven in action."
>
> I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
> assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
> to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
> out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
> me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
> things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
--
Cheers,
Paul
Re: New logo?
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
*Very* nice work, but...what does this Native Americans theme have to do
with "maven"? Yes, I know, but people *will* ask. Especially since
the answer has no connection with what Maven would do for them.
Unless I'm mistaken, the Maven landing page exists to sell Maven, not
the Apache Software Foundation. A link to the Foundation's landing
page is quite appropriate and should be easy to find, but that's not
why people come to this page. They come because they've heard
something about Maven and want to know more, or Google gave them a
link when they asked something about software project management or
build tools, or because some other project had a "built with Maven"
link on its page and they're curious. They'll probably be best
pleased if, at a glance, they can get some notion of what Maven does.
Possibly that message simply isn't very visual, and the best one can
do is to select a (formerly) meaningless but unique mascot or abstract
symbol. Possibly there is an image that will make people think, "yes!
that is Maven in action."
I'm really not that sort of visual thinker, but images of structure,
assembly, or gathering seem appropriate. The best(?) I've been able
to imagine is a funnel with classes falling in and a package falling
out. Or perhaps an assembly line. (What do classes look like? beats
me.) Maybe you can do something with the Reactor: skinny pipes bring
things in, one big pipe lets the product out.
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
RE: New logo?
Posted by Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com>.
...or http://s10.postimg.org/yq0p2dutl/maven2.png
I was thinking that the top curvature of the hat could be used to make an
"M" in Maven, but it may take someone with more artistic abilities to
conjure something up... any takers?
-----Original Message-----
From: Arnaud Héritier [mailto:aheritier@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:48 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
Added in the list :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else
> can make it look more sleek):
>
> http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.cservenak@gmail.com [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Tamás Cservenák
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> About raven, is already "taken":
> http://www.maven.co/
>
> Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to
> see what others came up with:
> http://www.maven-sf.com/
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> http://www.php-maven.org/
>
> And my personal fav:
> http://mavenberlin.com/en
>
> Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
>
>
> And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit
> drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might
> represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin
> intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of
multidisciplinary creativity):
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat"
> or whatever :D )
>
> Something like these
>
> http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemo
> untainnwview04.jpg
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllI
> gF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
>
> And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
>
> First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
>
> Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain"
> idea:D
>
> http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > > anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate
> > > the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
My brother played a little bit this week-end with our logo and especially
with our Apache Feather
[image: Inline image 1]
[image: Inline image 2]
I added them in the wiki :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
He will try to give more ideas soon
HTH
cheers
Arnaud
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a wiki account (whoover), but it doesn't look like I have access to
> edit the page.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:24 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> Somebody with wiki access will add it for you.... If you have a wiki
> account, I *should* be able to give you access to add it yourself... I'm
> only the flipping PMC chair like... But for the life of me I cannot find
> out
> *how* to do so :-O
>
> On Friday, 10 January 2014, Will Hoover wrote:
>
> > Here's one that may be a little more logo-ready than the last one I sent.
> > How can I get it added to the wiki?
> >
> > http://s10.postimg.org/gceih8g95/maven3.png
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arnaud Héritier [mailto:aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:48 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: New logo?
> >
> > Added in the list :
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover
> > <java.whoover@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else
> > > can make it look more sleek):
> > >
> > > http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: t.cservenak@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > > [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com<javascript:;>]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of Tamás Cservenák
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Re: New logo?
> > >
> > > About raven, is already "taken":
> > > http://www.maven.co/
> > >
> > > Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just
> > > to see what others came up with:
> > > http://www.maven-sf.com/
> > > http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> > > http://www.php-maven.org/
> > >
> > > And my personal fav:
> > > http://mavenberlin.com/en
> > >
> > > Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
> > >
> > >
> > > And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit
> > > drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might
> > > represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin
> > > intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of
> > multidisciplinary creativity):
> > > a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and
> > > everyone finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge",
> "sweat"
> > > or whatever :D )
> > >
> > > Something like these
> > >
> > > http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicate
> > > mo
> > > untainnwview04.jpg
> > >
> > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJl
> > > lI
> > > gF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
> > >
> > > And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
> > >
> > > First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
> > >
> > > Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain"
> > > idea:D
> > >
> > > http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood
> > > <mwood@iupui.edu<javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > > > > anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos
> > > > > encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly,
> covertly or both.
> > > >
> > > > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for
> > > > a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > > >
> > > > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > > > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > > > the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > > > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > > > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > > >
> > >
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RE: New logo?
Posted by Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com>.
I have a wiki account (whoover), but it doesn't look like I have access to
edit the page.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:24 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
Somebody with wiki access will add it for you.... If you have a wiki
account, I *should* be able to give you access to add it yourself... I'm
only the flipping PMC chair like... But for the life of me I cannot find out
*how* to do so :-O
On Friday, 10 January 2014, Will Hoover wrote:
> Here's one that may be a little more logo-ready than the last one I sent.
> How can I get it added to the wiki?
>
> http://s10.postimg.org/gceih8g95/maven3.png
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnaud Héritier [mailto:aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:48 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> Added in the list :
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover
> <java.whoover@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else
> > can make it look more sleek):
> >
> > http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: t.cservenak@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com<javascript:;>]
> On Behalf
> > Of Tamás Cservenák
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: New logo?
> >
> > About raven, is already "taken":
> > http://www.maven.co/
> >
> > Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just
> > to see what others came up with:
> > http://www.maven-sf.com/
> > http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> > http://www.php-maven.org/
> >
> > And my personal fav:
> > http://mavenberlin.com/en
> >
> > Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
> >
> >
> > And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit
> > drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might
> > represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin
> > intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of
> multidisciplinary creativity):
> > a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and
> > everyone finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge",
"sweat"
> > or whatever :D )
> >
> > Something like these
> >
> > http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicate
> > mo
> > untainnwview04.jpg
> >
> > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJl
> > lI
> > gF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
> >
> > And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
> >
> > First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
> >
> > Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain"
> > idea:D
> >
> > http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood
> > <mwood@iupui.edu<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > > > anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos
> > > > encapsulate the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly,
covertly or both.
> > >
> > > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for
> > > a symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > >
> > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > >
> > > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > > the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Somebody with wiki access will add it for you.... If you have a wiki
account, I *should* be able to give you access to add it yourself... I'm
only the flipping PMC chair like... But for the life of me I cannot find
out *how* to do so :-O
On Friday, 10 January 2014, Will Hoover wrote:
> Here's one that may be a little more logo-ready than the last one I sent.
> How can I get it added to the wiki?
>
> http://s10.postimg.org/gceih8g95/maven3.png
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnaud Héritier [mailto:aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:48 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> Added in the list :
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover <java.whoover@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else
> > can make it look more sleek):
> >
> > http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: t.cservenak@gmail.com <javascript:;> [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com<javascript:;>]
> On Behalf
> > Of Tamás Cservenák
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: New logo?
> >
> > About raven, is already "taken":
> > http://www.maven.co/
> >
> > Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to
> > see what others came up with:
> > http://www.maven-sf.com/
> > http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> > http://www.php-maven.org/
> >
> > And my personal fav:
> > http://mavenberlin.com/en
> >
> > Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
> >
> >
> > And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit
> > drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might
> > represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin
> > intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of
> multidisciplinary creativity):
> > a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> > finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat"
> > or whatever :D )
> >
> > Something like these
> >
> > http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemo
> > untainnwview04.jpg
> >
> > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllI
> > gF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
> >
> > And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
> >
> > First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
> >
> > Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain"
> > idea:D
> >
> > http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mwood@iupui.edu<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > > > anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate
> > > > the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> > >
> > > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > >
> > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > >
> > > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > > the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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RE: New logo?
Posted by Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com>.
Here's one that may be a little more logo-ready than the last one I sent.
How can I get it added to the wiki?
http://s10.postimg.org/gceih8g95/maven3.png
-----Original Message-----
From: Arnaud Héritier [mailto:aheritier@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:48 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
Added in the list :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else
> can make it look more sleek):
>
> http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.cservenak@gmail.com [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Tamás Cservenák
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> About raven, is already "taken":
> http://www.maven.co/
>
> Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to
> see what others came up with:
> http://www.maven-sf.com/
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> http://www.php-maven.org/
>
> And my personal fav:
> http://mavenberlin.com/en
>
> Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
>
>
> And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit
> drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might
> represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin
> intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of
multidisciplinary creativity):
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat"
> or whatever :D )
>
> Something like these
>
> http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemo
> untainnwview04.jpg
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllI
> gF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
>
> And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
>
> First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
>
> Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain"
> idea:D
>
> http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > > anything in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate
> > > the purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > the relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
Added in the list :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else can
> make it look more sleek):
>
> http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: t.cservenak@gmail.com [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Tamás Cservenák
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> About raven, is already "taken":
> http://www.maven.co/
>
> Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to see
> what others came up with:
> http://www.maven-sf.com/
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> http://www.php-maven.org/
>
> And my personal fav:
> http://mavenberlin.com/en
>
> Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
>
>
> And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit drawings
> representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might represent visually
> Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin intersecting triangles, as
> there, it reflects the intersection of multidisciplinary creativity):
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat" or
> whatever :D )
>
> Something like these
>
> http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemountainnwview04.jpg
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllIgF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
>
> And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
>
> First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
>
> Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain" idea:D
>
> http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
> > > in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> > > purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> > relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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RE: New logo?
Posted by Will Hoover <ja...@gmail.com>.
Here's a VERY rough draft of a possible logo (I'm sure someone else can make it look more sleek):
http://s21.postimg.org/41q3n4mk7/maven.png
-----Original Message-----
From: t.cservenak@gmail.com [mailto:t.cservenak@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tamás Cservenák
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:33 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
About raven, is already "taken":
http://www.maven.co/
Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to see what others came up with:
http://www.maven-sf.com/
http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
http://www.php-maven.org/
And my personal fav:
http://mavenberlin.com/en
Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit drawings representing explicit stuff/beings, I figured what might represent visually Maven (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin intersecting triangles, as there, it reflects the intersection of multidisciplinary creativity):
a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat" or whatever :D )
Something like these
http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemountainnwview04.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllIgF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain" idea:D
http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
> > in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> > purpose of the project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>
> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>
> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Curtis Rueden <ct...@wisc.edu>.
Hi Tamás,
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat"
> or whatever :D )
That is excellent! And gurus (a.k.a. mavens) also like to live on top of
mountains. ;-)
Regards,
Curtis
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>wrote:
> About raven, is already "taken":
> http://www.maven.co/
>
> Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to see
> what others came up with:
> http://www.maven-sf.com/
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> http://www.php-maven.org/
>
> And my personal fav:
> http://mavenberlin.com/en
>
> Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
>
>
> And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit drawings
> representing explicit stuff/beings,
> I figured what might represent visually Maven
> (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin intersecting triangles, as there,
> it reflects the intersection of multidisciplinary creativity):
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat" or
> whatever :D )
>
> Something like these
>
> http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemountainnwview04.jpg
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllIgF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
>
> And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
>
> First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
>
> Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain" idea:D
>
> http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> the
> > > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> > relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:45:18PM +0000, Adam Retter wrote:
> Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to
> engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the
> voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo
> (perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could
> again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone
> that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists
> ;-)
Actually I think the artwork is quite good. It's the visual language
itself that seems uncertain. Which points even more strongly to the
need for a graphic designer.
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
I like these :
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
(stephen, maven-5)
and
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/tamas-3.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389301154000&api=v2
(tamas3)
My +0
2014/1/12 Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>:
> When letting go the idea of an animal, I came up with the following:
>
> Change the V of Maven into a funnel, feeding it with stuff (code, resources,
> etc), resulting in an artifact.
> Maybe with an assembly line full of jars below Maven.
> It is probably easier to make the input abstract: circles, squares,
> rectangles ...
>
> Robert
>
> Op Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:20:21 +0100 schreef Kristian Rosenvold
> <kr...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>> I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>> approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>> designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
>> related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
>> particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
>> along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>> prefers
>> blue).
>>
>> When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>> ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>> customizing
>> what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
>> mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
>> processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>> conveyor-belt
>> mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>> process, stopping at
>> individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
>> a
>> waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>
>> So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>
>> Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
>>> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>>> > the
>>> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>
>>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>
>>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>
>>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
When letting go the idea of an animal, I came up with the following:
Change the V of Maven into a funnel, feeding it with stuff (code,
resources, etc), resulting in an artifact.
Maybe with an assembly line full of jars below Maven.
It is probably easier to make the input abstract: circles, squares,
rectangles ...
Robert
Op Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:20:21 +0100 schreef Kristian Rosenvold
<kr...@gmail.com>:
> I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
> designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
> related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> which
> particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
> along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> prefers
> blue).
>
> When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
> ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> customizing
> what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to
> a
> mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
> processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> conveyor-belt
> mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> process, stopping at
> individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
> of a
> waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>
> So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
>> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>> the
>> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>
>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>
>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
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Re: New logo?
Posted by tibor17 <ti...@lycos.com>.
The background picture can be something what represents Maven project.
The sitting person with a computer might be changed to something like this
(as a vision):
http://www.posterus.sk/burza_prace.png
I can see a flow of phases in life cycle, unique structures and "project" or
POM. Some kind of these words in "white loop" in the picture, so that the
men is pointing to one phase. Perhaps something like this, i guess.
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I was quite proud of my teepees, but there was a lot of concern that the
imagery was too native american and that the ASF should try not to lean on
native american imagery for its projects... I hope to be able to use them
for a personal project someday!
On 21 November 2014 13:43, tibor17 <ti...@lycos.com> wrote:
> This looks really funny, not bad :)
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png
> What I like the way how you created the title from pictures.
> It's a bit crazy picture but still better than a pure picture standing in
> front of the title.
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by tibor17 <ti...@lycos.com>.
This looks really funny, not bad :)
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png
What I like the way how you created the title from pictures.
It's a bit crazy picture but still better than a pure picture standing in
front of the title.
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
FYI: ndeloof points out http://raven.rubyforge.org/
So I think any logo with a raven in it is well and truly dead in the water
On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>
> So I present
>
> maven-19:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>
> and finding a use for the feather
>
> maven-20:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>
>> maven-18:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>
>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>
>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>> get
>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>> It
>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>> will
>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>
>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>> typically
>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>> which
>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>> input
>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>> >prefers
>>> >blue).
>>> >
>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>> >customizing
>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>> to a
>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>> individual
>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>> >conveyor-belt
>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>> >process, stopping at
>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>> of
>>> >a
>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>> >
>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>> >
>>> >Kristian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>> in
>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>> of
>>> >>the
>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>> >>
>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>> >>
>>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
maven-21 in context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png
On 14 January 2014 12:18, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with
> the teepee
>
> maven-21:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389701827196&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>>
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>>
>>> So I present
>>>
>>> maven-19:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>>
>>> and finding a use for the feather
>>>
>>> maven-20:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>>
>>>> maven-18:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>>
>>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>>> get
>>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>>> It
>>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>>> will
>>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>>>>> graphic
>>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>>> typically
>>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>>> which
>>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>>> input
>>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>>> >prefers
>>>>> >blue).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>>>>> my
>>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>>> >customizing
>>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>>> to a
>>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>>> individual
>>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
>>>>> think of
>>>>> >a
>>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Kristian
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>>>>> anything in
>>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>>>>> purpose of
>>>>> >>the
>>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
maven-21 in context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-21-in-context.png
On 14 January 2014 12:18, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with
> the teepee
>
> maven-21:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389701827196&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>>
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>>
>>> So I present
>>>
>>> maven-19:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>>
>>> and finding a use for the feather
>>>
>>> maven-20:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>>
>>>> maven-18:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>>
>>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>>> get
>>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>>> It
>>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>>> will
>>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>>>>> graphic
>>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>>> typically
>>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>>> which
>>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>>> input
>>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>>> >prefers
>>>>> >blue).
>>>>> >
>>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>>>>> my
>>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>>> >customizing
>>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>>> to a
>>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>>> individual
>>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
>>>>> think of
>>>>> >a
>>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Kristian
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>>>>> anything in
>>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>>>>> purpose of
>>>>> >>the
>>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with
the teepee
maven-21:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389701827196&api=v2
On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>
>> So I present
>>
>> maven-19:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>
>> and finding a use for the feather
>>
>> maven-20:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>
>>> maven-18:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>
>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>
>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>> get
>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>> It
>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>> will
>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>>>> graphic
>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>> typically
>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>> which
>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>> input
>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>> >prefers
>>>> >blue).
>>>> >
>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>>>> my
>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>> >customizing
>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>> to a
>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>> individual
>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>>> of
>>>> >a
>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>> >
>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>> >
>>>> >Kristian
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>>>> anything in
>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>>> of
>>>> >>the
>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I thought a hand-drawn font using straight lines only might look good with
the teepee
maven-21:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-21.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389701827196&api=v2
On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>
>> So I present
>>
>> maven-19:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>
>> and finding a use for the feather
>>
>> maven-20:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>
>>> maven-18:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>
>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>
>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>> get
>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>> It
>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>> will
>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>>>> graphic
>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>> typically
>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>> which
>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>> input
>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>> >prefers
>>>> >blue).
>>>> >
>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>>>> my
>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>> >customizing
>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>> to a
>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>> individual
>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>>> of
>>>> >a
>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>> >
>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>> >
>>>> >Kristian
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>>>> anything in
>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>>> of
>>>> >>the
>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I think we would have no issue getting a small amount of funding from the
foundation to feed an external logo competition... but I think we would
want to have some scope defined for such a competition... so yeah I see no
issue with using the top 3 as seed for an external logo competition, e.g.
on the site already mentioned on a previous thread... but I think we do
need a spec and part of the point of this discussion is to generate such a
spec.
On 14 January 2014 12:45, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to
> engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the
> voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo
> (perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could
> again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone
> that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists
> ;-)
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
> > abuse the "Apache" link...
> >
> > I would like to hear more about your objections.
> >
> > Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
> >
> > I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select
> the
> > top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
> >
> > WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
> > top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
> > reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
> > with the next most popular.
> >
> > Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
> >
> > Or at least that is my plan
> >
> > So far we have about 8 ideas...
> >
> > * The moose with the internet in his hand
> >
> > * The owl
> >
> > * The assembly line
> >
> > * The honey badger
> >
> > * The two yurts in a native american style
> >
> > * The twin peaks
> >
> > * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for
> now)
> >
> > * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
> >
> > * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
> >
> > If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the
> flow
> > of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
> >
> >> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
> >> American Indian references).
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> TimP
> >>
> >> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> >> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two
> tee
> >> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
> >> >>
> >> >> So I present
> >> >>
> >> >> maven-19:
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
> >> >>
> >> >> and finding a use for the feather
> >> >>
> >> >> maven-20:
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
> >> >>>
> >> >>> maven-18:
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she
> thinks
> >> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature
> and
> >> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things
> will
> >> >>>> get
> >> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with
> Maven.
> >> >>>> It
> >> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard,
> you
> >> >>>> will
> >> >>>> feel its wrath :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Heh.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a
> serious
> >> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> >> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great
> way to
> >> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> >> graphic
> >> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> >> >>>> typically
> >> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather
> than
> >> >>>> which
> >> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind
> of
> >> >>>> input
> >> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the
> boss
> >> >>>> >prefers
> >> >>>> >blue).
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> >> all my
> >> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> >> for
> >> >>>> >customizing
> >> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me
> associations
> >> >>>> to a
> >> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> >> >>>> individual
> >> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >> >>>> >conveyor-belt
> >> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor
> belt
> >> >>>> >process, stopping at
> >> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> >> think
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> >a
> >> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at
> all !
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >Kristian
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> >> anything
> >> >>>> in
> >> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> >> purpose
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> >>the
> >> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking
> for a
> >> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression
> of
> >> the
> >> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> --
> >> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim Pizey
> >> http://pizey.net/~timp
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Adam Retter
>
> skype: adam.retter
> tweet: adamretter
> http://www.adamretter.org.uk
>
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>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I think we would have no issue getting a small amount of funding from the
foundation to feed an external logo competition... but I think we would
want to have some scope defined for such a competition... so yeah I see no
issue with using the top 3 as seed for an external logo competition, e.g.
on the site already mentioned on a previous thread... but I think we do
need a spec and part of the point of this discussion is to generate such a
spec.
On 14 January 2014 12:45, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to
> engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the
> voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo
> (perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could
> again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone
> that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists
> ;-)
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
> > abuse the "Apache" link...
> >
> > I would like to hear more about your objections.
> >
> > Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
> >
> > I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select
> the
> > top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
> >
> > WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
> > top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
> > reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
> > with the next most popular.
> >
> > Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
> >
> > Or at least that is my plan
> >
> > So far we have about 8 ideas...
> >
> > * The moose with the internet in his hand
> >
> > * The owl
> >
> > * The assembly line
> >
> > * The honey badger
> >
> > * The two yurts in a native american style
> >
> > * The twin peaks
> >
> > * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for
> now)
> >
> > * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
> >
> > * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
> >
> > If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the
> flow
> > of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
> >
> >> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
> >> American Indian references).
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> TimP
> >>
> >> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> >> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two
> tee
> >> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
> >> >>
> >> >> So I present
> >> >>
> >> >> maven-19:
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
> >> >>
> >> >> and finding a use for the feather
> >> >>
> >> >> maven-20:
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
> >> >>>
> >> >>> maven-18:
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she
> thinks
> >> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature
> and
> >> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things
> will
> >> >>>> get
> >> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with
> Maven.
> >> >>>> It
> >> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard,
> you
> >> >>>> will
> >> >>>> feel its wrath :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Heh.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a
> serious
> >> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> >> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great
> way to
> >> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> >> graphic
> >> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> >> >>>> typically
> >> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather
> than
> >> >>>> which
> >> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind
> of
> >> >>>> input
> >> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the
> boss
> >> >>>> >prefers
> >> >>>> >blue).
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> >> all my
> >> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> >> for
> >> >>>> >customizing
> >> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me
> associations
> >> >>>> to a
> >> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> >> >>>> individual
> >> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >> >>>> >conveyor-belt
> >> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor
> belt
> >> >>>> >process, stopping at
> >> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> >> think
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> >a
> >> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at
> all !
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >Kristian
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> >> anything
> >> >>>> in
> >> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> >> purpose
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> >>the
> >> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking
> for a
> >> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression
> of
> >> the
> >> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> --
> >> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim Pizey
> >> http://pizey.net/~timp
> >>
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> >>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to
engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the
voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo
(perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could
again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone
that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists
;-)
On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
> abuse the "Apache" link...
>
> I would like to hear more about your objections.
>
> Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
>
> I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the
> top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
>
> WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
> top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
> reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
> with the next most popular.
>
> Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
>
> Or at least that is my plan
>
> So far we have about 8 ideas...
>
> * The moose with the internet in his hand
>
> * The owl
>
> * The assembly line
>
> * The honey badger
>
> * The two yurts in a native american style
>
> * The twin peaks
>
> * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now)
>
> * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
>
> * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
>
> If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow
> of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
>
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
>
>> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
>> American Indian references).
>>
>> cheers
>> TimP
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>> >
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>> >
>> >
>> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
>> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>> >>
>> >> So I present
>> >>
>> >> maven-19:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>> >>
>> >> and finding a use for the feather
>> >>
>> >> maven-20:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>> >>>
>> >>> maven-18:
>> >>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>> >>>> It
>> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> feel its wrath :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Heh.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
>> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>> graphic
>> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>> >>>> typically
>> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>> >>>> which
>> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>> >>>> input
>> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>> >>>> >prefers
>> >>>> >blue).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
>> all my
>> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
>> for
>> >>>> >customizing
>> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>> >>>> to a
>> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>> >>>> individual
>> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>> >>>> >conveyor-belt
>> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>> >>>> >process, stopping at
>> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
>> think
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> >a
>> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Kristian
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>> anything
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>> purpose
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> >>the
>> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
>> the
>> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Pizey
>> http://pizey.net/~timp
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>.
How about just using all of this + textual ideas as input for an external
logo competiton ?
Kristian
2014/1/14 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
> We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
> abuse the "Apache" link...
>
> I would like to hear more about your objections.
>
> Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
>
> I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the
> top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
>
> WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
> top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
> reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
> with the next most popular.
>
> Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
>
> Or at least that is my plan
>
> So far we have about 8 ideas...
>
> * The moose with the internet in his hand
>
> * The owl
>
> * The assembly line
>
> * The honey badger
>
> * The two yurts in a native american style
>
> * The twin peaks
>
> * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for
> now)
>
> * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
>
> * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
>
> If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow
> of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
>
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
>
> > That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
> > American Indian references).
> >
> > cheers
> > TimP
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
> > <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> > > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> > >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
> > >>
> > >> So I present
> > >>
> > >> maven-19:
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
> > >>
> > >> and finding a use for the feather
> > >>
> > >> maven-20:
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
> > >>>
> > >>> maven-18:
> > >>>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she
> thinks
> > >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> > >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things
> will
> > >>>> get
> > >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with
> Maven.
> > >>>> It
> > >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard,
> you
> > >>>> will
> > >>>> feel its wrath :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Heh.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a
> serious
> > >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> > kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way
> to
> > >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> > graphic
> > >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> > >>>> typically
> > >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather
> than
> > >>>> which
> > >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> > >>>> input
> > >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> > >>>> >prefers
> > >>>> >blue).
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> > all my
> > >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> > for
> > >>>> >customizing
> > >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me
> associations
> > >>>> to a
> > >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> > >>>> individual
> > >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> > >>>> >conveyor-belt
> > >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> > >>>> >process, stopping at
> > >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> > think
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> >a
> > >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all
> !
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >Kristian
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > anything
> > >>>> in
> > >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> > purpose
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> >>the
> > >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking
> for a
> > >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > the
> > >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> --
> > >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Pizey
> > http://pizey.net/~timp
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
Does the Apache Foundation of any of its members have any money to
engage a graphical designer? I was just thinking that after the
voting, you could get a designer to do a proper job on the logo
(perhaps producing some variations of the voted on design which could
again be voted on further?). I do not mean any offence to everyone
that submitted designs, but clearly we are not professional artists
;-)
On 14 January 2014 12:40, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
> abuse the "Apache" link...
>
> I would like to hear more about your objections.
>
> Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
>
> I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the
> top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
>
> WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
> top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
> reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
> with the next most popular.
>
> Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
>
> Or at least that is my plan
>
> So far we have about 8 ideas...
>
> * The moose with the internet in his hand
>
> * The owl
>
> * The assembly line
>
> * The honey badger
>
> * The two yurts in a native american style
>
> * The twin peaks
>
> * The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now)
>
> * A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
>
> * A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
>
> If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow
> of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
>
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
>
>> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
>> American Indian references).
>>
>> cheers
>> TimP
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>> >
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>> >
>> >
>> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
>> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>> >>
>> >> So I present
>> >>
>> >> maven-19:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>> >>
>> >> and finding a use for the feather
>> >>
>> >> maven-20:
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>> >>>
>> >>> maven-18:
>> >>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>> >>>> It
>> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>> >>>> will
>> >>>> feel its wrath :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Heh.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
>> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>> graphic
>> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>> >>>> typically
>> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>> >>>> which
>> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>> >>>> input
>> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>> >>>> >prefers
>> >>>> >blue).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
>> all my
>> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
>> for
>> >>>> >customizing
>> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>> >>>> to a
>> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>> >>>> individual
>> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>> >>>> >conveyor-belt
>> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>> >>>> >process, stopping at
>> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
>> think
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> >a
>> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Kristian
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
>> anything
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>> purpose
>> >>>> of
>> >>>> >>the
>> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
>> the
>> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
abuse the "Apache" link...
I would like to hear more about your objections.
Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the
top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
with the next most popular.
Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
Or at least that is my plan
So far we have about 8 ideas...
* The moose with the internet in his hand
* The owl
* The assembly line
* The honey badger
* The two yurts in a native american style
* The twin peaks
* The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now)
* A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
* A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow
of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
> American Indian references).
>
> cheers
> TimP
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
> >
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
> >>
> >> So I present
> >>
> >> maven-19:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
> >>
> >> and finding a use for the feather
> >>
> >> maven-20:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
> >>>
> >>> maven-18:
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
> >>>>
> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
> >>>> get
> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
> >>>> It
> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
> >>>> will
> >>>> feel its wrath :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Heh.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> graphic
> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> >>>> typically
> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> >>>> which
> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> >>>> input
> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> >>>> >prefers
> >>>> >blue).
> >>>> >
> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> all my
> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> for
> >>>> >customizing
> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
> >>>> to a
> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> >>>> individual
> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >>>> >conveyor-belt
> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> >>>> >process, stopping at
> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> think
> >>>> of
> >>>> >a
> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Kristian
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> anything
> >>>> in
> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> purpose
> >>>> of
> >>>> >>the
> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> the
> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Pizey
> http://pizey.net/~timp
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
We are "Apache Maven" so there is always going to be that temptation to
abuse the "Apache" link...
I would like to hear more about your objections.
Keep in mind that ultimately it will come down to a vote...
I'm thinking we have two rounds of voting... the first round to select the
top 3 and the second round to select the winner...
WIth the above scheme I would plan on having a healthy discussion of the
top 3 candidates in case any are deemed inappropriate, i.e. the PMC will
reserve the right to veto any that it deems inappropriate, substituting
with the next most popular.
Then the winner will be an open vote from the 3 finalists...
Or at least that is my plan
So far we have about 8 ideas...
* The moose with the internet in his hand
* The owl
* The assembly line
* The honey badger
* The two yurts in a native american style
* The twin peaks
* The fedora as an M (likely too close to redhat... so not counting for now)
* A simple lettering with a monochrome feather
* A stylized lettering with the feather as a y
If we get to about 15-20 ideas and/or there seems to be a stop to the flow
of new ideas, then I will probably call the first round of voting...
On 14 January 2014 12:19, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
> That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
> American Indian references).
>
> cheers
> TimP
>
> On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
> >
> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
> >
> >
> > On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> > <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> >> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
> >>
> >> So I present
> >>
> >> maven-19:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
> >>
> >> and finding a use for the feather
> >>
> >> maven-20:
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
> >>>
> >>> maven-18:
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
> >>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
> >>>>
> >>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> >>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
> >>>> get
> >>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
> >>>> It
> >>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
> >>>> will
> >>>> feel its wrath :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Heh.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
> >>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> graphic
> >>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> >>>> typically
> >>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> >>>> which
> >>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> >>>> input
> >>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> >>>> >prefers
> >>>> >blue).
> >>>> >
> >>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> all my
> >>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> for
> >>>> >customizing
> >>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
> >>>> to a
> >>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> >>>> individual
> >>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >>>> >conveyor-belt
> >>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> >>>> >process, stopping at
> >>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> think
> >>>> of
> >>>> >a
> >>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Kristian
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> anything
> >>>> in
> >>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> purpose
> >>>> of
> >>>> >>the
> >>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> the
> >>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> --
> >>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>>> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Pizey
> http://pizey.net/~timp
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org>.
That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
American Indian references).
cheers
TimP
On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>
>> So I present
>>
>> maven-19:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>
>> and finding a use for the feather
>>
>> maven-20:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>
>>> maven-18:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>
>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>
>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>> get
>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>> It
>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>> will
>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>> typically
>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>> which
>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>> input
>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>> >prefers
>>>> >blue).
>>>> >
>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>> >customizing
>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>> to a
>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>> individual
>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>>> of
>>>> >a
>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>> >
>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>> >
>>>> >Kristian
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>>> in
>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>>> of
>>>> >>the
>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org>.
That looks really nice (though I do have problems with any North
American Indian references).
cheers
TimP
On 14 January 2014 12:08, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
>> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>>
>> So I present
>>
>> maven-19:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>>
>> and finding a use for the feather
>>
>> maven-20:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>>
>>> maven-18:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>>
>>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>>
>>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>>> get
>>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>>> It
>>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>>> will
>>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>>
>>>> Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>>> typically
>>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>>> which
>>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>>> input
>>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>>> >prefers
>>>> >blue).
>>>> >
>>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>>> >customizing
>>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>>> to a
>>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>>> individual
>>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>>> >conveyor-belt
>>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>>> >process, stopping at
>>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>>> of
>>>> >a
>>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>> >
>>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>> >
>>>> >Kristian
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>>> in
>>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>>> of
>>>> >>the
>>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>
> So I present
>
> maven-19:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>
> and finding a use for the feather
>
> maven-20:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>
>> maven-18:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>
>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>
>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>> get
>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>> It
>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>> will
>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>
>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>> typically
>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>> which
>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>> input
>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>> >prefers
>>> >blue).
>>> >
>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>> >customizing
>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>> to a
>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>> individual
>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>> >conveyor-belt
>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>> >process, stopping at
>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>> of
>>> >a
>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>> >
>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>> >
>>> >Kristian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>> in
>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>> of
>>> >>the
>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>> >>
>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
FYI: ndeloof points out http://raven.rubyforge.org/
So I think any logo with a raven in it is well and truly dead in the water
On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>
> So I present
>
> maven-19:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>
> and finding a use for the feather
>
> maven-20:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>
>> maven-18:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>
>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>
>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>> get
>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>> It
>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>> will
>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>
>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>> typically
>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>> which
>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>> input
>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>> >prefers
>>> >blue).
>>> >
>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>> >customizing
>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>> to a
>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>> individual
>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>> >conveyor-belt
>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>> >process, stopping at
>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>> of
>>> >a
>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>> >
>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>> >
>>> >Kristian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>> in
>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>> of
>>> >>the
>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>> >>
>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Putting maven-20 in context, you get:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-20-in-context.png
On 14 January 2014 10:37, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
> pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
>
> So I present
>
> maven-19:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
>
> and finding a use for the feather
>
> maven-20:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
>
>
> On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>>
>> maven-18:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>>
>>
>> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>>
>>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>>
>>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will
>>> get
>>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven.
>>> It
>>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you
>>> will
>>> feel its wrath :)
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>>
>>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>> typically
>>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>>> which
>>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
>>> input
>>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>>> >prefers
>>> >blue).
>>> >
>>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>>> >customizing
>>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
>>> to a
>>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
>>> individual
>>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>>> >conveyor-belt
>>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>>> >process, stopping at
>>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
>>> of
>>> >a
>>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>> >
>>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>> >
>>> >Kristian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>> in
>>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
>>> of
>>> >>the
>>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>> >>
>>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
So I present
maven-19:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
and finding a use for the feather
maven-20:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>
> maven-18:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>
>
> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>
>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>
>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
>> feel its wrath :)
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>
>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>> which
>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>> >prefers
>> >blue).
>> >
>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>> >customizing
>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to
>> a
>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>> >conveyor-belt
>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>> >process, stopping at
>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
>> >a
>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>> >
>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>> >
>> >Kristian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>> in
>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>> >>the
>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>> >>
>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>> >>
>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>> >>
>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>> >>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
My wife had a suggestion... why not make the M in maven out of two tee
pees... linking in with the Apache theme...
So I present
maven-19:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-19.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695638903&api=v2
and finding a use for the feather
maven-20:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-20.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695654233&api=v2
On 14 January 2014 10:35, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
>
> maven-18:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
>
>
> On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>
>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>
>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
>> feel its wrath :)
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>
>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
>> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
>> which
>> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
>> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>> >prefers
>> >blue).
>> >
>> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>> >customizing
>> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to
>> a
>> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
>> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>> >conveyor-belt
>> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>> >process, stopping at
>> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
>> >a
>> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>> >
>> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>> >
>> >Kristian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>> in
>> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>> >>the
>> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>> >>
>> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>> >>
>> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>> >>
>> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>> >>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
maven-18:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>
> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>
> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
> feel its wrath :)
>
> Heh.
>
> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>
> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> >prefers
> >blue).
> >
> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> >customizing
> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >conveyor-belt
> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> >process, stopping at
> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
> >a
> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >
> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >
> >Kristian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> >>the
> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>
> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>
> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>
> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@maven.apache.org
>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Ron Wheeler <rw...@artifact-software.com>.
Perhaps Roy's wife's story belongs on the front page of the Maven site.
It pretty clearly lays out the key conversion consideration for new users.
Ron
On 13/01/2014 3:46 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> Are you working on something? or just leaving us in the dark!
>
>
> On 13 January 2014 19:22, John Miller <jo...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> OK saw the images and thought a combination of two looked nice.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lyons, Roy [mailto:Roy.Lyons@cmegroup.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:37 AM
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Re: New logo?
>>
>> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
>> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>>
>> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>>
>> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
>> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
>> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
>> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
>> feel its wrath :)
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
>> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>>
>> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>>> approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>>> graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>>> typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product
>>> rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a
>>> secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other
>>> constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue).
>>>
>>> When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>>> my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
>>> for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives
>>> me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a
>>> tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle
>>> amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts
>>> move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual
>>> stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a
>>> waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>>>
>>> So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>>>
>>> Kristian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>>>>> All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>>>>> in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>>>>> purpose of
>>>> the
>>>>> project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>>>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>>>
>>>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>>>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>>>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>>>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>>>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Are you working on something? or just leaving us in the dark!
On 13 January 2014 19:22, John Miller <jo...@oracle.com> wrote:
> OK saw the images and thought a combination of two looked nice.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lyons, Roy [mailto:Roy.Lyons@cmegroup.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:37 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: New logo?
>
> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>
> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>
> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
> feel its wrath :)
>
> Heh.
>
> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>
> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> >graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> >typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product
> >rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a
> >secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other
> >constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue).
> >
> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
> >my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> >for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives
> >me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a
> >tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle
> >amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts
> >move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual
> >stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a
> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >
> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >
> >Kristian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
> >> > in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> >> > purpose of
> >>the
> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>
> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>
> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>
> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>
>
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RE: New logo?
Posted by John Miller <jo...@oracle.com>.
OK saw the images and thought a combination of two looked nice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lyons, Roy [mailto:Roy.Lyons@cmegroup.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:37 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: New logo?
I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will feel its wrath :)
Heh.
Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
>graphic designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
>typically related around your thoughts/feelings around the product
>rather than which particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a
>secondary kind of input along with all different kinds of other
>constraints/ideas (the boss prefers blue).
>
>When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
>my ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
>for customizing what was basically a standard process. So maven gives
>me associations to a mass-production line at a factory, rather than a
>tailor making individual processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle
>amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt mass-production line; all parts
>move through the same conveyor belt process, stopping at individual
>stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a
>waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>
>So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>
>Kristian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
>> > in particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
>> > purpose of
>>the
>> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>
>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>
>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
As a homage to Roy's wife, may I present
maven-18:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-18.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389695623134&api=v2
On 13 January 2014 15:36, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
> fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
>
> Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
>
> When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
> generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
> really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
> works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
> feel its wrath :)
>
> Heh.
>
> Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
> consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
>
> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> >prefers
> >blue).
> >
> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> >customizing
> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >conveyor-belt
> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> >process, stopping at
> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
> >a
> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >
> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >
> >Kristian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> >>the
> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>
> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>
> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>
> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by "Lyons, Roy" <Ro...@cmegroup.com>.
I asked my wife on the drive to the train today what animal she thinks
fits Maven. Her response made me chuckle.
Without hesitation, she said "Honey Badger"
When I asked why, she said that Honey Badgers are part of nature and
generally do their thing nicely -- but if you piss it off, things will get
really really bad... She said she had the same experience with Maven. It
works nicely, but if you try to do something really non-standard, you will
feel its wrath :)
Heh.
Anyhow, I thought it was funny enough to share - not really a serious
consideration to make a Honey Badger our mascot.
On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
>related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
>particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
>along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>prefers
>blue).
>
>When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>customizing
>what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
>mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
>processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>conveyor-belt
>mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>process, stopping at
>individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
>a
>waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>
>So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>
>Kristian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
>> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>>the
>> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>
>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>
>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On 10 January 2014 17:19, Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it could be seen also as a coffee machine taking beans in entry to produce
> a cup of java
> The - is that it is fully java minded while Maven tried to conquer (with
> few success) others platforms (C++ ...)
>
One thing that I want to see for Maven 4.0 / model Version 5.0.0 is better
support for arch specific artifacts... which IIRC was one of the main
issues with Maven and other platforms... (besides the "why should I install
this slow JVM on my machine" complaint)
> Note : Also the coffee machine can replace some others activities while
> maven is building :-)
> http://blog.octo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/maven-building.png
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you mean something like maven-16 that I just uploaded to the contest
> > wiki page?
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-16.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389373170779&api=v2
> >
> >
> > On 10 January 2014 16:40, Kristian Rosenvold
> > <kr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Way cool; this toy is a nordic classic (in wood). I can see "Jar" &
> "War"
> > > on the boxes.
> > >
> > > http://www.sprell.no/produktbilder/2013/Brio_Putteboks_rød.jpg
> > >
> > > For some reason I'm not entirely sure I understand I also enjoy the
> > train:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://playworldcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wooden-toys_playworld_corp.jpg
> > >
> > > I suppose it's because it's a goods train (not a passenger train), and
> > the
> > > individual carriages contain my jar files...
> > >
> > > Kristian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2014/1/10 Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> > >
> > > > HAH. I like that. It makes me think of the kids toy where you put
> > > shapes
> > > > into holes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/media/trus/Aplusplus/2012/2501235/MATTEL-25
> > > > 01235-01.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Each block shape represents a type of output (.war, .jar, .ear, .so,
> > > .dll,
> > > > .zip, .someotherextensionthatyoudreamup)
> > > >
> > > > Each hole represents a workflow to make that happen. Ok its a little
> > bit
> > > > reverse order, and more like
> > > http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/play-doh-12.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow, I like the "cookie cutter" approach to a logo because it goes
> > > with
> > > > Kristian's sentiment (which I happen to agree with once I read it).
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps even an actual logo as a set of cookie cutters (kind of like
> > > > http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BUOIKf4zL.jpg which is funny
> > > > because it has all kinds of animals in it too )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <
> kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way
> to
> > > > >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> > graphic
> > > > >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> > > typically
> > > > >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> > > which
> > > > >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> > > input
> > > > >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> > > > >prefers
> > > > >blue).
> > > > >
> > > > >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that
> all
> > my
> > > > >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason
> for
> > > > >customizing
> > > > >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me
> associations
> > > to a
> > > > >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> > > individual
> > > > >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> > > > >conveyor-belt
> > > > >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> > > > >process, stopping at
> > > > >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to
> think
> > > of
> > > > >a
> > > > >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> > > > >
> > > > >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> > > > >
> > > > >Kristian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > > >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> > anything
> > > in
> > > > >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the
> purpose
> > > of
> > > > >>the
> > > > >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for
> a
> > > > >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > > > >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> > the
> > > > >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > > > >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > > > >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
it could be seen also as a coffee machine taking beans in entry to produce
a cup of java
The - is that it is fully java minded while Maven tried to conquer (with
few success) others platforms (C++ ...)
Note : Also the coffee machine can replace some others activities while
maven is building :-)
http://blog.octo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/maven-building.png
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you mean something like maven-16 that I just uploaded to the contest
> wiki page?
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-16.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389373170779&api=v2
>
>
> On 10 January 2014 16:40, Kristian Rosenvold
> <kr...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Way cool; this toy is a nordic classic (in wood). I can see "Jar" & "War"
> > on the boxes.
> >
> > http://www.sprell.no/produktbilder/2013/Brio_Putteboks_rød.jpg
> >
> > For some reason I'm not entirely sure I understand I also enjoy the
> train:
> >
> >
> >
> http://playworldcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wooden-toys_playworld_corp.jpg
> >
> > I suppose it's because it's a goods train (not a passenger train), and
> the
> > individual carriages contain my jar files...
> >
> > Kristian
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/10 Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> >
> > > HAH. I like that. It makes me think of the kids toy where you put
> > shapes
> > > into holes.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/media/trus/Aplusplus/2012/2501235/MATTEL-25
> > > 01235-01.jpg
> > >
> > > Each block shape represents a type of output (.war, .jar, .ear, .so,
> > .dll,
> > > .zip, .someotherextensionthatyoudreamup)
> > >
> > > Each hole represents a workflow to make that happen. Ok its a little
> bit
> > > reverse order, and more like
> > http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/play-doh-12.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I like the "cookie cutter" approach to a logo because it goes
> > with
> > > Kristian's sentiment (which I happen to agree with once I read it).
> > >
> > > Perhaps even an actual logo as a set of cookie cutters (kind of like
> > > http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BUOIKf4zL.jpg which is funny
> > > because it has all kinds of animals in it too )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kristian.rosenvold@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> > > >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great
> graphic
> > > >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> > typically
> > > >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> > which
> > > >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> > input
> > > >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> > > >prefers
> > > >blue).
> > > >
> > > >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all
> my
> > > >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> > > >customizing
> > > >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
> > to a
> > > >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> > individual
> > > >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> > > >conveyor-belt
> > > >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> > > >process, stopping at
> > > >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
> > of
> > > >a
> > > >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> > > >
> > > >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> > > >
> > > >Kristian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> > > >
> > > >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize
> anything
> > in
> > > >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
> > of
> > > >>the
> > > >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> > > >>
> > > >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > > >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > > >>
> > > >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > > >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of
> the
> > > >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > > >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > > >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > > >>
> > >
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Do you mean something like maven-16 that I just uploaded to the contest
wiki page?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/38569278/maven-16.png?version=1&modificationDate=1389373170779&api=v2
On 10 January 2014 16:40, Kristian Rosenvold
<kr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Way cool; this toy is a nordic classic (in wood). I can see "Jar" & "War"
> on the boxes.
>
> http://www.sprell.no/produktbilder/2013/Brio_Putteboks_rød.jpg
>
> For some reason I'm not entirely sure I understand I also enjoy the train:
>
>
> http://playworldcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wooden-toys_playworld_corp.jpg
>
> I suppose it's because it's a goods train (not a passenger train), and the
> individual carriages contain my jar files...
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
> 2014/1/10 Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
>
> > HAH. I like that. It makes me think of the kids toy where you put
> shapes
> > into holes.
> >
> >
> http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/media/trus/Aplusplus/2012/2501235/MATTEL-25
> > 01235-01.jpg
> >
> > Each block shape represents a type of output (.war, .jar, .ear, .so,
> .dll,
> > .zip, .someotherextensionthatyoudreamup)
> >
> > Each hole represents a workflow to make that happen. Ok its a little bit
> > reverse order, and more like
> http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/play-doh-12.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyhow, I like the "cookie cutter" approach to a logo because it goes
> with
> > Kristian's sentiment (which I happen to agree with once I read it).
> >
> > Perhaps even an actual logo as a set of cookie cutters (kind of like
> > http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BUOIKf4zL.jpg which is funny
> > because it has all kinds of animals in it too )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> > >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
> > >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are
> typically
> > >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than
> which
> > >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of
> input
> > >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> > >prefers
> > >blue).
> > >
> > >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
> > >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> > >customizing
> > >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations
> to a
> > >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making
> individual
> > >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> > >conveyor-belt
> > >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> > >process, stopping at
> > >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think
> of
> > >a
> > >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> > >
> > >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> > >
> > >Kristian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything
> in
> > >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose
> of
> > >>the
> > >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> > >>
> > >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> > >>
> > >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> > >>
> > >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> > >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> > >>
> >
> >
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>.
Way cool; this toy is a nordic classic (in wood). I can see "Jar" & "War"
on the boxes.
http://www.sprell.no/produktbilder/2013/Brio_Putteboks_rød.jpg
For some reason I'm not entirely sure I understand I also enjoy the train:
http://playworldcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wooden-toys_playworld_corp.jpg
I suppose it's because it's a goods train (not a passenger train), and the
individual carriages contain my jar files...
Kristian
2014/1/10 Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> HAH. I like that. It makes me think of the kids toy where you put shapes
> into holes.
>
> http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/media/trus/Aplusplus/2012/2501235/MATTEL-25
> 01235-01.jpg
>
> Each block shape represents a type of output (.war, .jar, .ear, .so, .dll,
> .zip, .someotherextensionthatyoudreamup)
>
> Each hole represents a workflow to make that happen. Ok its a little bit
> reverse order, and more like http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/play-doh-12.jpg
>
>
>
>
> Anyhow, I like the "cookie cutter" approach to a logo because it goes with
> Kristian's sentiment (which I happen to agree with once I read it).
>
> Perhaps even an actual logo as a set of cookie cutters (kind of like
> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BUOIKf4zL.jpg which is funny
> because it has all kinds of animals in it too )
>
>
>
>
> On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
> >approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
> >designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
> >related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
> >particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
> >along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
> >prefers
> >blue).
> >
> >When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
> >ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
> >customizing
> >what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
> >mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
> >processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
> >conveyor-belt
> >mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
> >process, stopping at
> >individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
> >a
> >waterfall (Uh-oh...)
> >
> >So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
> >
> >Kristian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> >> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> >> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> >>the
> >> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >>
> >> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> >> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >>
> >> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >>
> >> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> >> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> >> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> >> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> >> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by "Lyons, Roy" <Ro...@cmegroup.com>.
HAH. I like that. It makes me think of the kids toy where you put shapes
into holes.
http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/media/trus/Aplusplus/2012/2501235/MATTEL-25
01235-01.jpg
Each block shape represents a type of output (.war, .jar, .ear, .so, .dll,
.zip, .someotherextensionthatyoudreamup)
Each hole represents a workflow to make that happen. Ok its a little bit
reverse order, and more like http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/play-doh-12.jpg
Anyhow, I like the "cookie cutter" approach to a logo because it goes with
Kristian's sentiment (which I happen to agree with once I read it).
Perhaps even an actual logo as a set of cookie cutters (kind of like
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BUOIKf4zL.jpg which is funny
because it has all kinds of animals in it too )
On 1/10/14 1:20 AM, "Kristian Rosenvold" <kr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
>approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
>designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
>related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
>particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
>along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss
>prefers
>blue).
>
>When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
>ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
>customizing
>what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
>mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
>processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a
>conveyor-belt
>mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
>process, stopping at
>individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of
>a
>waterfall (Uh-oh...)
>
>So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
>
>Kristian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
>
>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
>> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
>> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
>>the
>> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>>
>> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
>> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>>
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>>
>> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
>> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
>> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
>> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>>
>> --
>> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
>> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>.
I think the association-work around what maven /is/ is a great way to
approach a logo contest elsewhere. I have worked with some great graphic
designers in my time, and the kind input the good ones want are typically
related around your thoughts/feelings around the product rather than which
particular animal you prefer, which is a bit of a secondary kind of input
along with all different kinds of other constraints/ideas (the boss prefers
blue).
When I first encountered maven I had come to the realization that all my
ant projects were basically the same, and that there was no reason for
customizing
what was basically a standard process. So maven gives me associations to a
mass-production line at a factory, rather than a tailor making individual
processes. Furthermore, the lifecycle amplifies the idea of a conveyor-belt
mass-production line; all parts move through the same conveyor belt
process, stopping at
individual stages to get work done. I would almost be willing to think of a
waterfall (Uh-oh...)
So it would appear to me that I'm not thinking of an animal at all !
Kristian
2014/1/9 Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu>
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the
> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>
> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>
> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On 9 January 2014 16:32, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net> wrote:
> About raven, is already "taken":
> http://www.maven.co/
>
> Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to see
> what others came up with:
> http://www.maven-sf.com/
> http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
> http://www.php-maven.org/
>
> And my personal fav:
> http://mavenberlin.com/en
>
> Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
>
>
> And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit drawings
> representing explicit stuff/beings,
> I figured what might represent visually Maven
> (I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin intersecting triangles, as there,
> it reflects the intersection of multidisciplinary creativity):
> a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
> finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat" or
> whatever :D )
>
> Something like these
>
> http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemountainnwview04.jpg
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllIgF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
>
> And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
>
> First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
>
> Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain" idea:D
>
> http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
added these three to the wiki page
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> the
> > > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> > relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>.
About raven, is already "taken":
http://www.maven.co/
Some "sneaky peaks" for same named (but non related sites) -- just to see
what others came up with:
http://www.maven-sf.com/
http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/
http://www.php-maven.org/
And my personal fav:
http://mavenberlin.com/en
Their stylised "M" made out of two triangles is just great.
And then, as I also like abstract things a bit more than explicit drawings
representing explicit stuff/beings,
I figured what might represent visually Maven
(I admit, was inspired with MavenBerlin intersecting triangles, as there,
it reflects the intersection of multidisciplinary creativity):
a mountain(s), a twin peak ("M"), you have to climb..... (and everyone
finish their story, mountain might be "effort", "knowledge", "sweat" or
whatever :D )
Something like these
http://www.leelau.net/2005/clemenceau/Miscellanous/traverseduplicatemountainnwview04.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFyYp4QeFvU/Td_kvtpZNBI/AAAAAAAAAFk/_axAJllIgF8/s1600/snowcap2.png
And finally, just a quick quick silly draft of logos, two versions.
First, is obviously what maven is <today/> :D
Second is the one with stylized peaks, variations on "M as mountain" idea:D
http://screencast.com/t/JSpjKNrhBJLJ
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the
> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>
> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>
> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
Good choice. I was hoping someone would find a picture that played off the
"expertise" definition of the word Maven.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Owl is usually a symbol of wisdom, e.g. the wise owl.
>
> Maven embodies the collective wisdom of how to build software
>
> Hence why I did #5
>
>
> On 9 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of
> the
> > > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
> >
> > Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> > symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
> >
> > So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> > inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> > relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> > configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
> >
> > --
> > Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> > Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
> >
>
--
Cheers,
Paul
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
The Owl is usually a symbol of wisdom, e.g. the wise owl.
Maven embodies the collective wisdom of how to build software
Hence why I did #5
On 9 January 2014 15:51, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> > All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> > particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the
> > project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
>
> Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
> symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
>
> So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
> inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
> relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
> configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:32:54AM -0600, Curtis Rueden wrote:
> All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
> particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the
> project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
Good point. I was associating with the name "Maven", looking for a
symbol of in-depth understanding of a specialized field.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maven
So, what does Maven do? It passes unique source and object code
inputs through a standardized process, guided by an expression of the
relationships among those inputs, to assemble a well-specified
configuration of runnable code. What does that look like?
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
Re: New logo?
Posted by Curtis Rueden <ct...@wisc.edu>.
Hi all,
All of the logos are OK, but none of them really symbolize anything in
particular about Maven. IMO the best logos encapsulate the purpose of the
project somehow, either overtly, covertly or both.
Here is a related article that discusses some of that:
http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2012/10/the-hidden-meaning-behind-really-good-logos/
Paul Benedict's idea of letting professionals try their hand at it may be
more worthwhile in the long term. Otherwise we might just end up with yet
another software project with a cute animal that has little if anything to
do with the project itself.
Regards,
Curtis
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> All rather nicely done. FWIW I'm partial to #5.
>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
All rather nicely done. FWIW I'm partial to #5.
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
Re: New logo?
Posted by Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>.
I'm favouring maven-15 here, the maven raven! Ok, it's not a raven, but maybe it should be :) heh.
The bird can quite easily stand alone from the text, and be usable - overlaid, underlaid, watermarked etc better than the others IMHO ( except 14 ).
> I like maven-12
Re: New logo?
Posted by Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org>.
Great to see them all in one place.
I like maven-12
my 2p
timp
On 3 January 2014 15:12, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have created a wiki page to track the logo contest...
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 21:44, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Lettering eh, how about comic sans? :)
>>
>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> J/K btw
>>
>> Jason & company might let you re-use the letting from
>> http://blog.sonatype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/maven1.jpg if you
>> wanted something a little edgier and crisp.
>>
>>
>> On 1/2/14 3:36 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
>> >cleaner site looks a tad odd
>> >
>> >With the old header bar it was fine though
>> >
>> >I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
>> >or emblem is something good to have.
>> >
>> >There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
>> >examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
>> >level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
>> >could tackle the lettering
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
>> >>
>> >> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why
>> >>is
>> >> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
>> >>
>> >> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> >> direct
>> >> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> >>called
>> >> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Sent from my phone
>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I have created a wiki page to track the logo contest...
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
On 2 January 2014 21:44, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> Lettering eh, how about comic sans? :)
>
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> J/K btw
>
> Jason & company might let you re-use the letting from
> http://blog.sonatype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/maven1.jpg if you
> wanted something a little edgier and crisp.
>
>
> On 1/2/14 3:36 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
> >cleaner site looks a tad odd
> >
> >With the old header bar it was fine though
> >
> >I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
> >or emblem is something good to have.
> >
> >There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
> >examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
> >level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
> >could tackle the lettering
> >
> >
> >On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> >
> >> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
> >>
> >> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why
> >>is
> >> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >>
> >> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >>called
> >> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Sent from my phone
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I have created a wiki page to track the logo contest...
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Logo+contest
On 2 January 2014 21:44, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> Lettering eh, how about comic sans? :)
>
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> J/K btw
>
> Jason & company might let you re-use the letting from
> http://blog.sonatype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/maven1.jpg if you
> wanted something a little edgier and crisp.
>
>
> On 1/2/14 3:36 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
> >cleaner site looks a tad odd
> >
> >With the old header bar it was fine though
> >
> >I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
> >or emblem is something good to have.
> >
> >There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
> >examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
> >level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
> >could tackle the lettering
> >
> >
> >On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> >
> >> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
> >>
> >> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why
> >>is
> >> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >>
> >> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >>called
> >> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >Sent from my phone
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by "Lyons, Roy" <Ro...@cmegroup.com>.
Lettering eh, how about comic sans? :)
...
J/K btw
Jason & company might let you re-use the letting from
http://blog.sonatype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/maven1.jpg if you
wanted something a little edgier and crisp.
On 1/2/14 3:36 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
>cleaner site looks a tad odd
>
>With the old header bar it was fine though
>
>I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
>or emblem is something good to have.
>
>There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
>examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
>level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
>could tackle the lettering
>
>
>On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
>
>> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
>>
>> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why
>>is
>> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>>called
>> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
>>
>
>
>--
>Sent from my phone
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
cleaner site looks a tad odd
With the old header bar it was fine though
I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
or emblem is something good to have.
There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
could tackle the lettering
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
>
> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why is
> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
>
> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>
> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
>
--
Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Well our current "icon" is somebody's arse behind a laptop... Which with a
cleaner site looks a tad odd
With the old header bar it was fine though
I have no issue changing the font or colouring, but I think an actual icon
or emblem is something good to have.
There was some effort to pick a new font, and I would be happy to see
examples with a different font... My typographic skills are not near the
level of my poor sketching skills, so I have been hoping somebody else
could tackle the lettering
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
>
> i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why is
> the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
>
> On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>
> > As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> > copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> > maven using a silhouetted raven...
>
--
Sent from my phone
Re: New logo?
Posted by Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>.
Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why is the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
> copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> maven using a silhouetted raven...
Re: New logo?
Posted by Mark Derricutt <ma...@talios.com>.
Is it me or are a lot of these purely changing the icon, not the "logo".
i.e. is the "logo" inclusive of the "mAven" name ( side question - why is the A always a different colour, historic Ant reference? )
On 3 Jan 2014, at 2:18, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
> copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> maven using a silhouetted raven...
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
how about you try sketching out what you mean!
On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> coat of arms?
>
> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> >> can be a #15...
> >>
> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >
> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >> >context:
> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >> >>just
> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >>
> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >>
> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases I
> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >> >>from
> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >> >>type
> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >>raven,
> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> >> >>we
> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> >> >>I
> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >> >>hey
> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> >> >>to
> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> >> >>>>>as
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>> look
> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> >> >>>>> these
> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
how about you try sketching out what you mean!
On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> coat of arms?
>
> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> >> can be a #15...
> >>
> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >
> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >> >context:
> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >> >>just
> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >>
> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >>
> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases I
> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >> >>from
> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >> >>type
> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >>raven,
> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> >> >>we
> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> >> >>I
> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >> >>hey
> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> >> >>to
> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> >> >>>>>as
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>> look
> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> >> >>>>> these
> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
On 3 January 2014 06:22, Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Am I reading this correctly if it's aboput $130 for a full logo contest
> including the rights for use ?
>
Something in that range would be my reading too. (We might be able to
access foundation funds if we ask the board nicely)
> If we can formulate some decent requirement specification, coughing up the
> money should be the least of our problems.
>
> Does the feather have to stay in its original shape/form? Is the logo
> required to be ugly ?
>
I don't think either of these are requirements, we can have a non-ugly
looking logo... though ugly is in the eye of the beholder ;-)
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
>
> > My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to
> > http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists
> > show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to
> > Apache.
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>.
Am I reading this correctly if it's aboput $130 for a full logo contest
including the rights for use ?
If we can formulate some decent requirement specification, coughing up the
money should be the least of our problems.
Does the feather have to stay in its original shape/form? Is the logo
required to be ugly ?
Kristian
2014/1/2 Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to
> http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists
> show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to
> Apache.
>
> Paul
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to
http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists
show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to
Apache.
Paul
Re: New logo?
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
My suggestion is for someone in the PMC to pay $29 to
http://www.48hourslogo.com/ and have an extraordinary number of artists
show you their logo ideas. Buy the one you like and then donate it to
Apache.
Paul
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Nice... I like the first one for compactness too!
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Adam Retter wrote:
> Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a
> Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is
> attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/
>
> http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png
>
> and
>
> http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png
>
> Thanks
>
> On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So what... you cannot do worse than
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the
> Albanian
> >> >> coat of arms?
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird
> flying
> >> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> >> instead
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> >> perhaps
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is
> not a
> >> >> direct
> >> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> >> called
> >> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> >> )
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/<http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Nice... I like the first one for compactness too!
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Adam Retter wrote:
> Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a
> Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is
> attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/
>
> http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png
>
> and
>
> http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png
>
> Thanks
>
> On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So what... you cannot do worse than
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the
> Albanian
> >> >> coat of arms?
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird
> flying
> >> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> >> instead
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> >> perhaps
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is
> not a
> >> >> direct
> >> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> >> called
> >> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> >> )
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/<http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a
Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is
attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/
http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png
and
http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png
Thanks
On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So what... you cannot do worse than
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
>> >> coat of arms?
>> >>
>> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
>> instead
>> >> of
>> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
>> perhaps
>> >> it
>> >> >> can be a #15...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> >> direct
>> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> >> called
>> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
>> >> >> >context:
>> >> >> >
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
>> than
>> >> >> >>just
>> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> >> cases I
>> >> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
>> both
>> >> >> >>from
>> >> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
>> another
>> >> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need
>> to
>> >> ask
>> >> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
>> web...
>> >> if
>> >> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
>> that
>> >> >> >>type
>> >> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> >> including a
>> >> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original...
>> so
>> >> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> >> popular
>> >> >> >>we
>> >> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
>> vote
>> >> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
>> contributions
>> >> as
>> >> >> >>I
>> >> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
>> (but
>> >> >> >>hey
>> >> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> >> reduced
>> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> >> with a
>> >> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> >> background...
>> >> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> >> raven
>> >> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
>> otherwise
>> >> this
>> >> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
>> recognize
>> >> it
>> >> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> >> seemed
>> >> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
>> weird
>> >> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
>> exposed
>> >> to
>> >> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
>> make
>> >> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> --
>> >> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a
Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is
attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/
http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png
and
http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example2.png
Thanks
On 2 January 2014 17:52, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So what... you cannot do worse than
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
>> >> coat of arms?
>> >>
>> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
>> instead
>> >> of
>> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
>> perhaps
>> >> it
>> >> >> can be a #15...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> >> direct
>> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> >> called
>> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
>> >> >> >context:
>> >> >> >
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
>> than
>> >> >> >>just
>> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> >> cases I
>> >> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
>> both
>> >> >> >>from
>> >> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
>> another
>> >> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need
>> to
>> >> ask
>> >> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
>> web...
>> >> if
>> >> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
>> that
>> >> >> >>type
>> >> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> >> including a
>> >> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original...
>> so
>> >> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> >> popular
>> >> >> >>we
>> >> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
>> vote
>> >> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
>> contributions
>> >> as
>> >> >> >>I
>> >> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
>> (but
>> >> >> >>hey
>> >> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> >> reduced
>> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> >> with a
>> >> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> >> background...
>> >> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> >> raven
>> >> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
>> otherwise
>> >> this
>> >> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
>> recognize
>> >> it
>> >> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> >> seemed
>> >> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
>> weird
>> >> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
>> exposed
>> >> to
>> >> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
>> make
>> >> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >> >>>> --
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>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.
I agreed about the animal/mascot choice and its meaning.
We come back to another thread (on dev ML AFAIR) : what Maven is for you ?
How to describe it (easily) ? What is differentiating it from others tools
like Makefile, ant, gradle, builder ....
Arnaud
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mark H. Wood <mw...@iupui.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 03:53:46PM -0500, Jeffrey E Care wrote:
> > Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com> wrote on 01/02/2014
> > 02:06:55 PM:
> >
> > > I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we
> > have a
> > > "winning" logo that we are worried about
> >
> > While some Ant folks might appreciate the tongue-in-cheek nature of an
> > anteater logo, I think it be seen by many more folks as unnecessarily
> > antagonistic.
>
> Perhaps. I think it's a cute idea, but I feel that Maven and Ant have
> different jobs, so for many it might be puzzling instead. I think
> there'd be quite a number of questions "why's your mascot an anteater,
> of all things?"
>
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
> Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 03:53:46PM -0500, Jeffrey E Care wrote:
> Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com> wrote on 01/02/2014
> 02:06:55 PM:
>
> > I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we
> have a
> > "winning" logo that we are worried about
>
> While some Ant folks might appreciate the tongue-in-cheek nature of an
> anteater logo, I think it be seen by many more folks as unnecessarily
> antagonistic.
Perhaps. I think it's a cute idea, but I feel that Maven and Ant have
different jobs, so for many it might be puzzling instead. I think
there'd be quite a number of questions "why's your mascot an anteater,
of all things?"
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Machines should not be friendly. Machines should be obedient.
Re: New logo?
Posted by Jeffrey E Care <ca...@us.ibm.com>.
Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com> wrote on 01/02/2014
02:06:55 PM:
> I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we
have a
> "winning" logo that we are worried about
While some Ant folks might appreciate the tongue-in-cheek nature of an
anteater logo, I think it be seen by many more folks as unnecessarily
antagonistic.
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we have a
"winning" logo that we are worried about
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Robert Scholte wrote:
> How "safe" is an aardvark or armadillo compared to an AntEater?
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=creative+animal&hl=nl&
> source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uKnFUsCFBKGK0AWR6YHADQ&ved=
> 0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1858&bih=934#hl=nl&q=aardvark&tbm=isch&tbs=itp:clipart
>
>
> Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>:
>
> So what... you cannot do worse than
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> >> coat of arms?
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> instead
> >> of
> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> perhaps
> >> it
> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> called
> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/
> maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png
> )
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> >> >> >>just
> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-<http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
I personally liked the anteater idea... We can ask the Ant PMC if we have a
"winning" logo that we are worried about
On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Robert Scholte wrote:
> How "safe" is an aardvark or armadillo compared to an AntEater?
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=creative+animal&hl=nl&
> source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uKnFUsCFBKGK0AWR6YHADQ&ved=
> 0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1858&bih=934#hl=nl&q=aardvark&tbm=isch&tbs=itp:clipart
>
>
> Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>:
>
> So what... you cannot do worse than
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> >> coat of arms?
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> instead
> >> of
> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> perhaps
> >> it
> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> called
> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/
> maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png
> )
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> >> >> >>just
> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-<http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
How "safe" is an aardvark or armadillo compared to an AntEater?
https://www.google.com/search?q=creative+animal&hl=nl&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=uKnFUsCFBKGK0AWR6YHADQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1858&bih=934#hl=nl&q=aardvark&tbm=isch&tbs=itp:clipart
Op Thu, 02 Jan 2014 18:52:57 +0100 schreef Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>:
> So what... you cannot do worse than
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the
>> Albanian
>> >> coat of arms?
>> >>
>> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird
>> flying
>> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
>> instead
>> >> of
>> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
>> perhaps
>> >> it
>> >> >> can be a #15...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is
>> not a
>> >> direct
>> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> >> called
>> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
>> >> >> >context:
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> >> context:
>> >> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> >> )
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community
>> rather
>> than
>> >> >> >>just
>> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> >> cases I
>> >> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13).
>> In
>> >> other
>> >> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
>> both
>> >> >> >>from
>> >> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
>> another
>> >> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd
>> need
>> to
>> >> ask
>> >> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
>> web...
>> >> if
>> >> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
>> that
>> >> >> >>type
>> >> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a
>> similar
>> >> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> >> including a
>> >> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of
>> the
>> >> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the
>> original...
>> so
>> >> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> >> popular
>> >> >> >>we
>> >> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
>> vote
>> >> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
>> contributions
>> >> as
>> >> >> >>I
>> >> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we
>> are
>> (but
>> >> >> >>hey
>> >> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> >> reduced
>> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to
>> go
>> >> with a
>> >> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> >> background...
>> >> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is
>> using a
>> >> raven
>> >> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
>> otherwise
>> >> this
>> >> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
>> recognize
>> >> it
>> >> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at
>> all.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough²
>> part
>> >> seemed
>> >> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
>> weird
>> >> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
>> exposed
>> >> to
>> >> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have
>> to
>> make
>> >> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> >> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> --
>> >> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Adam Retter
>> >>
>> >> skype: adam.retter
>> >> tweet: adamretter
>> >> http://www.adamretter.org.uk
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
So what... you cannot do worse than
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> >> coat of arms?
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> instead
> >> of
> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> perhaps
> >> it
> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> called
> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> >> >> >>just
> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> >> cases I
> >> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> >> other
> >> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
> both
> >> >> >>from
> >> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
> another
> >> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need
> to
> >> ask
> >> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
> web...
> >> if
> >> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
> that
> >> >> >>type
> >> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> >> including a
> >> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >> >>raven,
> >> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original...
> so
> >> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> >> popular
> >> >> >>we
> >> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
> vote
> >> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
> contributions
> >> as
> >> >> >>I
> >> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
> (but
> >> >> >>hey
> >> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> >> reduced
> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> >> with a
> >> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> >> background...
> >> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> >> raven
> >> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
> otherwise
> >> this
> >> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
> recognize
> >> it
> >> >> >>>>>as
> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> >> seemed
> >> >> >>>>>to
> >> >> >>>>> look
> >> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
> weird
> >> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
> exposed
> >> to
> >> >> >>>>> these
> >> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
> make
> >> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
> >> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
So what... you cannot do worse than
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven.png
On 2 January 2014 16:55, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > how about you try sketching out what you mean!
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> >> coat of arms?
> >>
> >> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> >> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future"
> instead
> >> of
> >> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good,
> perhaps
> >> it
> >> >> can be a #15...
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> >> direct
> >> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> >> called
> >> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> >> >> >context:
> >> >> >
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> >> context:
> >> >> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> >> )
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> >> >> >>just
> >> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> >> cases I
> >> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> >> other
> >> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic,
> both
> >> >> >>from
> >> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
> another
> >> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need
> to
> >> ask
> >> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the
> web...
> >> if
> >> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for
> that
> >> >> >>type
> >> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> >> including a
> >> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >> >>raven,
> >> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original...
> so
> >> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> >> popular
> >> >> >>we
> >> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a
> vote
> >> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my
> contributions
> >> as
> >> >> >>I
> >> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
> (but
> >> >> >>hey
> >> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> >> reduced
> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> >> with a
> >> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> >> background...
> >> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> >> raven
> >> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but
> otherwise
> >> this
> >> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would
> recognize
> >> it
> >> >> >>>>>as
> >> >> >>>>> a
> >> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> >> seemed
> >> >> >>>>>to
> >> >> >>>>> look
> >> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
> weird
> >> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >> >>>>> >
> >> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am
> exposed
> >> to
> >> >> >>>>> these
> >> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
> make
> >> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> --
> >> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Adam Retter
> >>
> >> skype: adam.retter
> >> tweet: adamretter
> >> http://www.adamretter.org.uk
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>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
>> coat of arms?
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
>> of
>> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
>> it
>> >> can be a #15...
>> >>
>> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> called
>> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >
>> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> >> >context:
>> >> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> >> >>just
>> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> cases I
>> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> >> >>from
>> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>> ask
>> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
>> if
>> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> >> >>type
>> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> popular
>> >> >>we
>> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>> as
>> >> >>I
>> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> >> >>hey
>> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> >> >>to
>> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> background...
>> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> raven
>> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
>> this
>> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
>> it
>> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> seemed
>> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
>> to
>> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill.
On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> how about you try sketching out what you mean!
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
>> coat of arms?
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
>> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
>> of
>> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
>> it
>> >> can be a #15...
>> >>
>> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
>> called
>> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >> >
>> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> >> >context:
>> >> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> >> >> context:
>> >> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> >> )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> >> >>just
>> >> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
>> cases I
>> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> >> >>from
>> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>> ask
>> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
>> if
>> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> >> >>type
>> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >> >>raven,
>> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
>> popular
>> >> >>we
>> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>> as
>> >> >>I
>> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> >> >>hey
>> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> >> >>to
>> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
>> background...
>> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> raven
>> >> >>>> in their logo
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
>> this
>> >> >>>>> looks
>> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
>> it
>> >> >>>>>as
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> seemed
>> >> >>>>>to
>> >> >>>>> look
>> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> >> >>>>> swirly
>> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
>> to
>> >> >>>>> these
>> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> >> >>>>>it a
>> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> manfred
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
how about you try sketching out what you mean!
On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> coat of arms?
>
> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> >> can be a #15...
> >>
> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >
> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >> >context:
> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >> >>just
> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >>
> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >>
> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases I
> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >> >>from
> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >> >>type
> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >>raven,
> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> >> >>we
> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> >> >>I
> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >> >>hey
> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> >> >>to
> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> >> >>>>>as
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>> look
> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> >> >>>>> these
> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
how about you try sketching out what you mean!
On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
> coat of arms?
>
> On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
> <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> >> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> >> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> >> can be a #15...
> >>
> >> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> >> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> >> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >> >
> >> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >> >context:
> >> >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> >> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> >> >> context:
> >> >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >> >>just
> >> >> things that I have sketched...
> >> >>
> >> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> >> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >> >>
> >> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases I
> >> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> >> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >> >>from
> >> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> >> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> >> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >> >>type
> >> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> >> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >> >>raven,
> >> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> >> >>we
> >> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >> >>
> >> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> >> >>I
> >> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >> >>hey
> >> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> >> >>to
> >> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> >> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> >> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> >> >>>> in their logo
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >> >>>>> > wrote:
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> >> >>>>> looks
> >> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> >> >>>>>as
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>> look
> >> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >> >>>>> swirly
> >> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> >> >>>>> these
> >> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >> >>>>>it a
> >> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> manfred
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
coat of arms?
On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it
>> can be a #15...
>>
>> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
>> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >
>> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> >context:
>> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
>> >> context:
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> )
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
>> >> context:
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> )
>> >>
>> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> >>just
>> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >>
>> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
>> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >>
>> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
>> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
>> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> >>from
>> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
>> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
>> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> >>type
>> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
>> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >>raven,
>> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>> >>we
>> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >>
>> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as
>> >>I
>> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> >>hey
>> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced
>> >>to
>> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
>> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >>>
>> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >>>
>> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >>>
>> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
>> >>>> in their logo
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
>> >>>>> looks
>> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it
>> >>>>>as
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>> look
>> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> >>>>> swirly
>> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
>> >>>>> these
>> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> >>>>>it a
>> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> manfred
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Well I am a big fan of my moose with the internet on tap... only benson was
against the moose from what I heard...
However, I will do a vote-off once we get some other suggestions so that
the community can decide
On 2 January 2014 15:47, Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net> wrote:
> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even
> if
> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
> friendly enough, /me think.
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> > > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> > > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> > it
> > > can be a #15...
> > >
> > > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> > direct
> > > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> > > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> > > >
> > > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> > > >context:
> > > >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> > > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> > > >> context:
> > > >>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> > > )
> > > >>
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> > > >> context:
> > > >>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> > > )
> > > >>
> > > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> > > >>just
> > > >> things that I have sketched...
> > > >>
> > > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> > > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> > > >>
> > > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases
> > I
> > > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> > other
> > > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> > > >>from
> > > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
> another
> > > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> > ask
> > > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> > > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> > > >>type
> > > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> > > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> > including a
> > > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> > > >>raven,
> > > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> > > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> > > >>we
> > > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> > > >>
> > > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> > > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> > as
> > > >>I
> > > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
> (but
> > > >>hey
> > > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> > reduced
> > > >>to
> > > >> a run-off of my creations)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> > with a
> > > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> > > >>> just haven't had time to do it
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> > raven
> > > >>>> in their logo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> > > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> > > >>>>> > wrote:
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> > this
> > > >>>>> looks
> > > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> > it
> > > >>>>>as
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>> >> raven ..
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> > seemed
> > > >>>>>to
> > > >>>>> look
> > > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
> weird
> > > >>>>> swirly
> > > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> > to
> > > >>>>> these
> > > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
> make
> > > >>>>>it a
> > > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> manfred
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Sent from my phone
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Sauvez un arbre,
> Mangez un castor !
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Well I am a big fan of my moose with the internet on tap... only benson was
against the moose from what I heard...
However, I will do a vote-off once we get some other suggestions so that
the community can decide
On 2 January 2014 15:47, Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net> wrote:
> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even
> if
> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
> friendly enough, /me think.
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
> >
> >
> > On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> > > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead
> of
> > > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> > it
> > > can be a #15...
> > >
> > > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> > direct
> > > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks
> called
> > > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> > > >
> > > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png(in
> > > >context:
> > > >
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> > > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> > > >> context:
> > > >>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> > > )
> > > >>
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> > > >> context:
> > > >>
> > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> > > )
> > > >>
> > > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather
> than
> > > >>just
> > > >> things that I have sketched...
> > > >>
> > > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> > > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> > > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> > > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> > > >>
> > > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some
> cases
> > I
> > > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> > other
> > > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> > > >>from
> > > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for
> another
> > > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> > ask
> > > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web...
> if
> > > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> > > >>type
> > > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> > > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> > including a
> > > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> > > >>raven,
> > > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> > > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is
> popular
> > > >>we
> > > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> > > >>
> > > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> > > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> > as
> > > >>I
> > > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are
> (but
> > > >>hey
> > > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> > reduced
> > > >>to
> > > >> a run-off of my creations)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> > with a
> > > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky
> background...
> > > >>> just haven't had time to do it
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> > > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> > raven
> > > >>>> in their logo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> > > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> > > >>>>> > wrote:
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> > this
> > > >>>>> looks
> > > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> > it
> > > >>>>>as
> > > >>>>> a
> > > >>>>> >> raven ..
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> > seemed
> > > >>>>>to
> > > >>>>> look
> > > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a
> weird
> > > >>>>> swirly
> > > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> > to
> > > >>>>> these
> > > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to
> make
> > > >>>>>it a
> > > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> manfred
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Sent from my phone
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Sauvez un arbre,
> Mangez un castor !
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net>.
Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
friendly enough, /me think.
2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> > can be a #15...
> >
> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> > >
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> > >context:
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> > >
> > >
> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> > >>just
> > >> things that I have sketched...
> > >>
> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> > >>
> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
> I
> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> > >>from
> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> > >>type
> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> > >>raven,
> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
> > >>we
> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> > >>
> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> > >>I
> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> > >>hey
> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> > >>to
> > >> a run-off of my creations)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> > >>>
> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> > >>>
> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> > >>>> in their logo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> > >>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> > >>>>> looks
> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> > >>>>>as
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> >> raven ..
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>> look
> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> > >>>>> swirly
> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> > >>>>>it a
> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> manfred
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io>.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org> wrote:
> I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc
>
> The moose and beaver are also laden.
>
> Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long?
> Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project.
>
I think this is more due to our lack of graphic design capability than intent :-)
A good designer can take the ideas of being an expert/community and likely come up with something that looks good and has some meaning.
>
> cheers
> Timp
>
> On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net> wrote:
>> Oups, forgot users list.
>>
>> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
>> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
>> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
>> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
>> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
>> friendly enough, /me think.
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>>>> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>>>> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
>>> it
>>>> can be a #15...
>>>>
>>>> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>>> direct
>>>>> copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>>>>> maven using a silhouetted raven...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>>>>> context:
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>>>>> <st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>>>>>> context:
>>>>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>>>>>> context:
>>>>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> things that I have sketched...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>>>>>> would need to check if we can use this one)
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
>>> I
>>>>>> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>>> other
>>>>>> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>>>>>> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>>> ask
>>>>>> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
>>>>>> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>>>>>> type
>>>>>> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>>>>>> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>>> including a
>>>>>> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>>>>>> raven,
>>>>>> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>>>>>> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>>>>>> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>>> as
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>>>>>> hey
>>>>>> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>>> reduced
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a run-off of my creations)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>>> with a
>>>>>>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>>>>>>> just haven't had time to do it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>>> raven
>>>>>>>> in their logo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>>>>>>>>> <ma...@simpligility.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
>>> this
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> raven ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>> more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>>>>>>>>> swirly
>>>>>>>>>> thing at the ankle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>>>>>>>>> it a
>>>>>>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> manfred
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Baptiste <Batmat> MATHUS - http://batmat.net
>> Sauvez un arbre,
>> Mangez un castor !
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Pizey
> http://pizey.net/~timp
>
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>
Thanks,
Jason
----------------------------------------------------------
Jason van Zyl
Founder, Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
---------------------------------------------------------
Re: New logo?
Posted by Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org>.
I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc
The moose and beaver are also laden.
Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long?
Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project.
cheers
Timp
On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net> wrote:
> Oups, forgot users list.
>
> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
> friendly enough, /me think.
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>>
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
>> it
>> > can be a #15...
>> >
>> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> > >
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> > >context:
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> > >>just
>> > >> things that I have sketched...
>> > >>
>> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> > >>
>> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
>> I
>> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> > >>from
>> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>> ask
>> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
>> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> > >>type
>> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> > >>raven,
>> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>> > >>we
>> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> > >>
>> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>> as
>> > >>I
>> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> > >>hey
>> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> > >>to
>> > >> a run-off of my creations)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> raven
>> > >>>> in their logo
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> > >>>>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
>> this
>> > >>>>> looks
>> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
>> it
>> > >>>>>as
>> > >>>>> a
>> > >>>>> >> raven ..
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> seemed
>> > >>>>>to
>> > >>>>> look
>> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> > >>>>> swirly
>> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
>> to
>> > >>>>> these
>> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> > >>>>>it a
>> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> manfred
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Sent from my phone
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Tim Pizey <ti...@paneris.org>.
I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc
The moose and beaver are also laden.
Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long?
Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project.
cheers
Timp
On 2 January 2014 15:48, Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net> wrote:
> Oups, forgot users list.
>
> Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
> prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
> I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
> this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
> we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
> friendly enough, /me think.
>
>
> 2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>>
>>
>> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
>> it
>> > can be a #15...
>> >
>> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
>> direct
>> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> > >
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> > >context:
>> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
>> > >> context:
>> > >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> > )
>> > >>
>> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> > >>just
>> > >> things that I have sketched...
>> > >>
>> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> > >>
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
>> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> > >>
>> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
>> I
>> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
>> other
>> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> > >>from
>> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
>> ask
>> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
>> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> > >>type
>> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
>> including a
>> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> > >>raven,
>> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>> > >>we
>> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> > >>
>> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
>> as
>> > >>I
>> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> > >>hey
>> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
>> reduced
>> > >>to
>> > >> a run-off of my creations)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
>> with a
>> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> > >>>
>> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
>> raven
>> > >>>> in their logo
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> > >>>>> > wrote:
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
>> this
>> > >>>>> looks
>> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
>> it
>> > >>>>>as
>> > >>>>> a
>> > >>>>> >> raven ..
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
>> seemed
>> > >>>>>to
>> > >>>>> look
>> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> > >>>>> swirly
>> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> > >>>>> >
>> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
>> to
>> > >>>>> these
>> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> > >>>>>it a
>> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> manfred
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Sent from my phone
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net>.
Oups, forgot users list.
Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
friendly enough, /me think.
2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> > can be a #15...
> >
> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> > >
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> > >context:
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> > >
> > >
> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> > >>just
> > >> things that I have sketched...
> > >>
> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> > >>
> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
> I
> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> > >>from
> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> > >>type
> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> > >>raven,
> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
> > >>we
> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> > >>
> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> > >>I
> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> > >>hey
> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> > >>to
> > >> a run-off of my creations)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> > >>>
> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> > >>>
> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> > >>>> in their logo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> > >>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> > >>>>> looks
> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> > >>>>>as
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> >> raven ..
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>> look
> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> > >>>>> swirly
> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> > >>>>>it a
> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> manfred
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Baptiste Mathus <bm...@batmat.net>.
Oups, forgot users list.
Might be just me, but though I'm not against using a raven, I'd at least
prefer the more friendly 13 one (see
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png).
I'm actually far more liking the friendly teddybear's style of the moose (
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png) even if
this animal might be badly connotated (not here in France, I'd say, since
we're not accustomed to seeing them ;-)). The "The Crow" dark style isn't
friendly enough, /me think.
2014/1/2 Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> > upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
> > "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps
> it
> > can be a #15...
> >
> > On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a
> direct
> > >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> > >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> > >
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> > >context:
> > >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png)
> > >
> > >
> > >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> > ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png(in
> > >> context:
> > >>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> > )
> > >>
> > >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> > >>just
> > >> things that I have sketched...
> > >>
> > >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> > >>
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png(note
> > >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> > >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> > >>
> > >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases
> I
> > >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In
> other
> > >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> > >>from
> > >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> > >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to
> ask
> > >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> > >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> > >>type
> > >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> > >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition
> including a
> > >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> > >>raven,
> > >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> > >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
> > >>we
> > >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> > >>
> > >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> > >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions
> as
> > >>I
> > >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> > >>hey
> > >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be
> reduced
> > >>to
> > >> a run-off of my creations)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> > >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go
> with a
> > >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> > >>>
> > >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> > >>>
> > >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> > >>>
> > >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
> > >>> just haven't had time to do it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a
> raven
> > >>>> in their logo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> > >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> > >>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise
> this
> > >>>>> looks
> > >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize
> it
> > >>>>>as
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> >> raven ..
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part
> seemed
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>> look
> > >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> > >>>>> swirly
> > >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed
> to
> > >>>>> these
> > >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> > >>>>>it a
> > >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> manfred
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Adam Retter <ad...@googlemail.com>.
I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian
coat of arms?
On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
>> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
>> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it
>> can be a #15...
>>
>> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
>> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
>> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
>> >
>> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
>> >context:
>> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
>> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
>> >> context:
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
>> )
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
>> >> context:
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
>> )
>> >>
>> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
>> >>just
>> >> things that I have sketched...
>> >>
>> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>> >>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
>> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>> >>
>> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
>> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
>> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
>> >>from
>> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
>> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
>> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
>> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
>> >>type
>> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
>> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
>> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
>> >>raven,
>> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
>> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
>> >>we
>> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>> >>
>> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
>> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as
>> >>I
>> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
>> >>hey
>> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced
>> >>to
>> >> a run-off of my creations)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
>> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
>> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>> >>>
>> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>> >>>
>> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>> >>>
>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>> >>>
>> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> >>> just haven't had time to do it
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
>> >>>> in their logo
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
>> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
>> >>>>> looks
>> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it
>> >>>>>as
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> >> raven ..
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed
>> >>>>>to
>> >>>>> look
>> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>> >>>>> swirly
>> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
>> >>>>> these
>> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
>> >>>>>it a
>> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> manfred
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
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Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it
> can be a #15...
>
> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >
> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >context:
> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >
> >
> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
> >> context:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> )
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
> >> context:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> )
> >>
> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >>just
> >> things that I have sketched...
> >>
> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >>
> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >>from
> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >>type
> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >>raven,
> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
> >>we
> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >>
> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as
> >>I
> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >>hey
> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced
> >>to
> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >>>
> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >>>
> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >>>
> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
> >>>> in their logo
> >>>>
> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
> >>>>> looks
> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it
> >>>>>as
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> look
> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >>>>> swirly
> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
> >>>>> these
> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >>>>>it a
> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> manfred
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png
On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy <Ro...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if you might be able to try this with the bird flying
> upwards and to the right. Its a "moving up and to the future" instead of
> "diving down into the past" kind of feeling. If it looks good, perhaps it
> can be a #15...
>
> On 1/2/14 7:18 AM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
> >copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
> >maven using a silhouetted raven...
> >
> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
> >context:
> >http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
> >
> >
> >On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
> ><st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> two more that I drew over the holidays:
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
> >> context:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png
> )
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
> >> context:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png
> )
> >>
> >> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than
> >>just
> >> things that I have sketched...
> >>
> >> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
> >>
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
> >> would need to check if we can use this one)
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> >> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
> >>
> >> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
> >> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
> >> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both
> >>from
> >> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> >> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
> >> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> >> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that
> >>type
> >> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> >> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
> >> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the
> >>raven,
> >> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> >> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular
> >>we
> >> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
> >>
> >> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> >> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as
> >>I
> >> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but
> >>hey
> >> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced
> >>to
> >> a run-off of my creations)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> >> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
> >>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
> >>>
> >>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
> >>>
> >>> Finally, here is a raven totem
> >>>
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
> >>>
> >>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
> >>> just haven't had time to do it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
> >>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
> >>>> in their logo
> >>>>
> >>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser
> >>>>><ma...@simpligility.com>
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
> >>>>> looks
> >>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it
> >>>>>as
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> >> raven ..
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > That¹s my problemŠ. doesn¹t look like a raven to me at all.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the ³mouth + tough² part seemed
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> look
> >>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
> >>>>> swirly
> >>>>> > thing at the ankle.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > In other words, a little to ³abstract² for me. :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
> >>>>> these
> >>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make
> >>>>>it a
> >>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> manfred
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from my phone
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
maven using a silhouetted raven...
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
> context:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png)
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
> context:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png)
>
> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just
> things that I have sketched...
>
> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
> would need to check if we can use this one)
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>
> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from
> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type
> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven,
> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we
> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>
> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I
> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey
> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to
> a run-off of my creations)
>
>
>
> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>>
>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>>
>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>>
>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> just haven't had time to do it
>>
>>
>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>>>
>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>>>
>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
>>> in their logo
>>>
>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser <ma...@simpligility.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
>>>> looks
>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as
>>>> a
>>>> >> raven ..
>>>> >
>>>> > That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all.
>>>> >
>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to
>>>> look
>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>>>> swirly
>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>>>> >
>>>> > In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
>>>> these
>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a
>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>>>>
>>>> manfred
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New logo?
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
As 9 is particularly problematic I have sketched -14 which is not a direct
copy of a silhouette. This still has the issue w.r.t. other marks called
maven using a silhouetted raven...
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-14.png (in
context:
http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-14.png )
On 2 January 2014 12:47, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com>wrote:
> two more that I drew over the holidays:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png (in
> context:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-12.png)
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png (in
> context:
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/screenshot-13.png)
>
> I really would like some contributions from the community rather than just
> things that I have sketched...
>
> At present, to my mind, the ones worth consideration are:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-3a.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-5.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-7b.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png (note
> would need to check if we can use this one)
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-12.png
> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-13.png
>
> In terms of image rights, these are all sketched by me, in some cases I
> was using images or photos that I took myself (3a , 5 and 13). In other
> cases I traced photos from the web. -9 is the most problematic, both from
> the point of an all black silhouette being used as a logo for another
> company using the Maven mark (but not in our context... we'd need to ask
> permission) but also being a direct trace of an image on the web... if
> people really like -9 then we would need to seek permission for that type
> of image and perhaps try and commission somebody to draw a similar
> silhouette rather than my direct trace. -12 is a composition including a
> direct trace of the outline of a photo of the totem carving of the raven,
> but the inner detail I drew myself as a study of the original... so
> slightly more complex origin... again, if this type of look is popular we
> can look into getting the approval to use the image.
>
> If we can get a few community contributions then I will start a vote
> run-off... I don't want to have a run-off with only my contributions as I
> just don't think that is the spirit of the community that we are (but hey
> if nobody else is willing to try their hand, perhaps we will be reduced to
> a run-off of my creations)
>
>
>
> On 21 December 2013 12:25, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Having thought about it overnight... if people really want to go with a
>> non-stylised raven we can always ask for permission:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-9.png
>>
>> OTOH here is a different stylised version
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-10.png
>>
>> Finally, here is a raven totem
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-11.png
>>
>> I think this last one could be put in a forest with sky background...
>> just haven't had time to do it
>>
>>
>> On 20 December 2013 22:26, Stephen Connolly <
>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we can't go with the raven....
>>>
>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/3/prweb9334175.htm
>>>
>>> Given that a different non-competing user of the name is using a raven
>>> in their logo
>>>
>>> On Friday, 20 December 2013, Manfred Moser wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Manfred Moser <ma...@simpligility.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I would move the Raven closer to the word Maven but otherwise this
>>>> looks
>>>> >> good imho. Of course I am not sure if everyone would recognize it as
>>>> a
>>>> >> raven ..
>>>> >
>>>> > That’s my problem…. doesn’t look like a raven to me at all.
>>>> >
>>>> > When I first looked at it, I guess the “mouth + tough” part seemed to
>>>> look
>>>> > more like the Seattle SeaHawks logo stuck on a boot with a weird
>>>> swirly
>>>> > thing at the ankle.
>>>> >
>>>> > In other words, a little to “abstract” for me. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Fair enough. I guess living in the pacific northwest I am exposed to
>>>> these
>>>> depictions a lot so I can tell. But globally we might have to make it a
>>>> bit clearer. Good input ;-)
>>>>
>>>> manfred
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>
>>
>