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Posted to dev@stratos.apache.org by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com> on 2014/08/19 08:42:46 UTC
Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Hi All,
We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against each
deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please see
the following table and let me know your thoughts.
Deployment Type
------------------------------
Stratos Concept
Virtual MachinesDocker on Bare MetalDocker on CoreOS in an IaaS
Cartridge Instance
a VM
a Docker Process
a Docker Process
Partition
an Availability Zone
a Docker Host VM
a CoreOS Host VM
Network Partition
a Region
a set of Docker Host VMs
a cluster of CoreOS VMs
With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
thread to discuss my findings on this.
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Lakmal Warusawithana <la...@wso2.com>.
Hi Nirmal,
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against each
> deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please see
> the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>
>
> Deployment Type
> ------------------------------
>
> Stratos Concept
> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>
> Cartridge Instance
>
> a VM
>
> a Docker Process
>
> a Docker Process
>
> Partition
>
> an Availability Zone
>
> a Docker Host VM
>
> a CoreOS Host VM
>
> Network Partition
>
> a Region
>
> a set of Docker Host VMs
>
> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>
>
> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>
>
Docker host can spin in a partition. If we provide dynamic IaaS
provisioning for register these docker hosts, IMO we can deploy partitions
(which is unique to above docker host) also dynamically and dockers are
spin up in those partitions. If so IMO we no need to have sub-partitions
right? we can use same partitions concept.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
Lakmal Warusawithana
Vice President, Apache Stratos
Director - Cloud Architecture; WSO2 Inc.
Mobile : +94714289692
Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
Hi Imesh,
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org> wrote:
> If we group a Docker/Core OS host as a partition, if the host goes down
> the entire partition will be unavailable.
>
+1, [1] reveals a bit about Amazon definition. I think we can define the
zones and regions based on network latency. A zone can have one or many
hosts but with lesser network latency than region.
IaaS designer can analyse his resources to choose which network latency
levels(X, Y, and Z), that he need to define for Zones and Regions, such
that,
Latency between two hosts in a zone < X
X < Latency between two hosts in two different zones < Y
Y < Latency between two hosts in two different regions < Z
Thanks.
[1]
http://harish11g.blogspot.com/2012/07/amazon-availability-zones-aws-az.html
>
> Core OS uses a similar concept in clustering to avoid this problem:
> https://coreos.com/using-coreos/clustering/
>
> Will us be able to span a partition among multiple hosts?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>
>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread
>> you start.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>
>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>
>>>>> a VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> a Region
>>>>>
>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>
>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>
>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Imesh Gunaratne
>
> Technical Lead, WSO2
> Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> If we group a Docker/Core OS host as a partition, if the host goes down
>> the entire partition will be unavailable.
>>
>
Hi Imesh, this is the same behavior we see for an AWS availability zone.
An AZ is a partition in Stratos and if a whole AZ goes down, the entire
partition will be unavailable, but Stratos could use another available
partition to spin instances.
>
>> Core OS uses a similar concept in clustering to avoid this problem:
>> https://coreos.com/using-coreos/clustering/
>>
>
> Yes Imesh, that's what I mapped to a network partition (a cluster of
> CoreOS). CoreOS currently lacks APIs (they released an alpha version of
> Fleet API yesterday), and also as I mentioned in the other thread, Fleet
> and Stratos has conflicting set of interests. As of now, I am not sure that
> using Fleet is a viable option for us.
>
>>
>> Will us be able to span a partition among multiple hosts?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread
>>> you start.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>
>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Imesh Gunaratne
>>
>> Technical Lead, WSO2
>> Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
Also, please read Findings on CoreOS thread for a summarized set of
information on CoreOS.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> If we group a Docker/Core OS host as a partition, if the host goes down
>> the entire partition will be unavailable.
>>
>> Core OS uses a similar concept in clustering to avoid this problem:
>> https://coreos.com/using-coreos/clustering/
>>
>
> Yes Imesh, that's what I mapped to a network partition (a cluster of
> CoreOS). CoreOS currently lacks APIs (they released an alpha version of
> Fleet API yesterday), and also as I mentioned in the other thread, Fleet
> and Stratos has conflicting set of interests. As of now, I am not sure that
> using Fleet is a viable option for us.
>
>>
>> Will us be able to span a partition among multiple hosts?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread
>>> you start.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>
>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Imesh Gunaratne
>>
>> Technical Lead, WSO2
>> Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org> wrote:
> If we group a Docker/Core OS host as a partition, if the host goes down
> the entire partition will be unavailable.
>
> Core OS uses a similar concept in clustering to avoid this problem:
> https://coreos.com/using-coreos/clustering/
>
Yes Imesh, that's what I mapped to a network partition (a cluster of
CoreOS). CoreOS currently lacks APIs (they released an alpha version of
Fleet API yesterday), and also as I mentioned in the other thread, Fleet
and Stratos has conflicting set of interests. As of now, I am not sure that
using Fleet is a viable option for us.
>
> Will us be able to span a partition among multiple hosts?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>
>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread
>> you start.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>
>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>
>>>>> a VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> a Region
>>>>>
>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>
>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>
>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Imesh Gunaratne
>
> Technical Lead, WSO2
> Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
If we group a Docker/Core OS host as a partition, if the host goes down the
entire partition will be unavailable.
Core OS uses a similar concept in clustering to avoid this problem:
https://coreos.com/using-coreos/clustering/
Will us be able to span a partition among multiple hosts?
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
wrote:
> mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread
> you start.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deployment Type
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>
>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>
>>>> a VM
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>
>>>> Partition
>>>>
>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>
>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>
>>>> Network Partition
>>>>
>>>> a Region
>>>>
>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>
>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
>>>> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
>>>> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>
>>
>> Yes Lahiru.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>
>
--
Imesh Gunaratne
Technical Lead, WSO2
Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi Imesh,
Yes, we had a look at Kubernetes too (discussed in [DISCUSS] Direct docker
support from Stratos), and as of now our current understanding is
Kubernetes, CoreOS, Stratos has set of conflicting interests such as
scheduling docker instances, service grouping etc. (of course with few
differentiations) :-)
Anyway, need to explore more and see whether we can leverage these while
respecting Stratos' features.
As per my current understanding Stratos will do most of the things that
both CoreOS and Kubernetes do, after implementing the docker support.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org> wrote:
> Great! Thanks for the prompt responses.
>
> Yes we need to do more research on this. By any chance did we have a look
> at Kubernetes?
> https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/blob/master/DESIGN.md
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Sajith Kariyawasam <sa...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nirmal, I'm bit unclear, in Virtual Machine scenario, the partitioning
>>> according to you is based on Availability Zone. Does that mean partitioning
>>> can "only" be based on AZ's? But according to our docs [1] we can have
>>> provider level, region level, zone level or rack level. So my understanding
>>> is that we even can define a region as one partition in VM scenario, Isn't
>>> it ?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Sajith you are correct that we do not restrict the freedom of
>> defining a scope of a partition. However, here what I have listed is
>> probably the approach we could recommend. Wdyt?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.1.0+Cloud+Partitioning
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lahiru,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances
>>>>> inside host machines.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basically, what we need is some parent-child relationship... I'll start
>>>> a thread soon.
>>>>
>>>>> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <
>>>>>>> lahirus@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts
>>>>>>>>> against each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos.
>>>>>>>>> Please see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you
>>>>>>>> mean creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for
>>>>>>>> e.g.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *--*
>>> *Sajith Kariyawasam*
>>> *Mobile: +94772269575 <%2B94772269575>*
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Imesh Gunaratne
>
> Technical Lead, WSO2
> Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
Great! Thanks for the prompt responses.
Yes we need to do more research on this. By any chance did we have a look
at Kubernetes?
https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/blob/master/DESIGN.md
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Sajith Kariyawasam <sa...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nirmal, I'm bit unclear, in Virtual Machine scenario, the partitioning
>> according to you is based on Availability Zone. Does that mean partitioning
>> can "only" be based on AZ's? But according to our docs [1] we can have
>> provider level, region level, zone level or rack level. So my understanding
>> is that we even can define a region as one partition in VM scenario, Isn't
>> it ?
>>
>
> Yes, Sajith you are correct that we do not restrict the freedom of
> defining a scope of a partition. However, here what I have listed is
> probably the approach we could recommend. Wdyt?
>
>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.1.0+Cloud+Partitioning
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Lahiru,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances
>>>> inside host machines.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Basically, what we need is some parent-child relationship... I'll start
>>> a thread soon.
>>>
>>>> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <lahirus@wso2.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts
>>>>>>>> against each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos.
>>>>>>>> Please see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you
>>>>>>> mean creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for
>>>>>>> e.g.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>
>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *--*
>> *Sajith Kariyawasam*
>> *Mobile: +94772269575 <%2B94772269575>*
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
Imesh Gunaratne
Technical Lead, WSO2
Committer & PPMC Member, Apache Stratos
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Sajith Kariyawasam <sa...@wso2.com>
wrote:
> Nirmal, I'm bit unclear, in Virtual Machine scenario, the partitioning
> according to you is based on Availability Zone. Does that mean partitioning
> can "only" be based on AZ's? But according to our docs [1] we can have
> provider level, region level, zone level or rack level. So my understanding
> is that we even can define a region as one partition in VM scenario, Isn't
> it ?
>
Yes, Sajith you are correct that we do not restrict the freedom of defining
a scope of a partition. However, here what I have listed is probably the
approach we could recommend. Wdyt?
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.1.0+Cloud+Partitioning
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lahiru,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances
>>> inside host machines.
>>>
>>
>> Basically, what we need is some parent-child relationship... I'll start a
>> thread soon.
>>
>>> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts
>>>>>>> against each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos.
>>>>>>> Please see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>
>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *--*
> *Sajith Kariyawasam*
> *Mobile: +94772269575 <%2B94772269575>*
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Sajith Kariyawasam <sa...@wso2.com>.
Nirmal, I'm bit unclear, in Virtual Machine scenario, the partitioning
according to you is based on Availability Zone. Does that mean partitioning
can "only" be based on AZ's? But according to our docs [1] we can have
provider level, region level, zone level or rack level. So my understanding
is that we even can define a region as one partition in VM scenario, Isn't
it ?
[1]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.1.0+Cloud+Partitioning
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lahiru,
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>>>
>>
>> Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances
>> inside host machines.
>>
>
> Basically, what we need is some parent-child relationship... I'll start a
> thread soon.
>
>> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Region
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>
>>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Lahiru,
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>
>> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>>
>
> Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances inside
> host machines.
>
Basically, what we need is some parent-child relationship... I'll start a
thread soon.
> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>>
>
> Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deployment Type
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>>
>>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>>
>>>>> a VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>>
>>>>> Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>>
>>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Partition
>>>>>
>>>>> a Region
>>>>>
>>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>>
>>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a
>>>>> sub-partitioning concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll
>>>>> start a separate thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes Lahiru.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Nirmal
>>>>>
>>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>
>>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi Lahiru,
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com> wrote:
> mm.. Then why a sub-partition?
>
Since Autoscaler should spawn both host machines + docker instances inside
host machines.
> May be i should wait on the other thread you start.
>
Yes, please.. I am still researching :-)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nirmal,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <
>>> nirmal070125@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deployment Type
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Stratos Concept
>>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>>
>>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>>
>>>> a VM
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Process
>>>>
>>>> Partition
>>>>
>>>> an Availability Zone
>>>>
>>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>>
>>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>>
>>>> Network Partition
>>>>
>>>> a Region
>>>>
>>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>>
>>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
>>>> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
>>>> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>>
>>
>> Yes Lahiru.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Nirmal
>>>>
>>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>
>>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
mm.. Then why a sub-partition? May be i should wait on the other thread you
start.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nirmal,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <nirmal070125@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Deployment Type
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Stratos Concept
>>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>>
>>> Cartridge Instance
>>>
>>> a VM
>>>
>>> a Docker Process
>>>
>>> a Docker Process
>>>
>>> Partition
>>>
>>> an Availability Zone
>>>
>>> a Docker Host VM
>>>
>>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>>
>>> Network Partition
>>>
>>> a Region
>>>
>>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>>
>>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>>
>>>
>>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
>>> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
>>> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>>
>>
>> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
>> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>>
>
> Yes Lahiru.
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Nirmal
>>>
>>> Nirmal Fernando.
>>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>>
>>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer,
>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>
>> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>
wrote:
> Hi Nirmal,
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against
>> each deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please
>> see the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>>
>>
>> Deployment Type
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Stratos Concept
>> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>>
>> Cartridge Instance
>>
>> a VM
>>
>> a Docker Process
>>
>> a Docker Process
>>
>> Partition
>>
>> an Availability Zone
>>
>> a Docker Host VM
>>
>> a CoreOS Host VM
>>
>> Network Partition
>>
>> a Region
>>
>> a set of Docker Host VMs
>>
>> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>>
>>
>> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
>> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
>> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>>
>
> I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
> creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
>
Yes Lahiru.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Nirmal
>>
>> Nirmal Fernando.
>> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
>> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>>
>> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Lahiru Sandaruwan
> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer,
> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
> lean.enterprise.middleware
>
> email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
> linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos Concept Mapping against Deployment
Posted by Lahiru Sandaruwan <la...@wso2.com>.
Hi Nirmal,
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We need to clearly understand the mapping of Stratos concepts against each
> deployment type in order to provide Docker support in Stratos. Please see
> the following table and let me know your thoughts.
>
>
> Deployment Type
> ------------------------------
>
> Stratos Concept
> Virtual Machines Docker on Bare Metal Docker on CoreOS in an IaaS
>
> Cartridge Instance
>
> a VM
>
> a Docker Process
>
> a Docker Process
>
> Partition
>
> an Availability Zone
>
> a Docker Host VM
>
> a CoreOS Host VM
>
> Network Partition
>
> a Region
>
> a set of Docker Host VMs
>
> a cluster of CoreOS VMs
>
>
> With the introduction of Docker, I feel like we need a sub-partitioning
> concept to cater in-container auto-scaling feature. I'll start a separate
> thread to discuss my findings on this.
>
I did not get what is "in-container auto-scaling" means? Do you mean
creating(auto-scaling) several docker processes in docker host for e.g.?
Thanks.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
--
--
Lahiru Sandaruwan
Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer,
WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middleware
email: lahirus@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146