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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Kevin Kluge <Ke...@citrix.com> on 2012/05/02 15:06:15 UTC
Add zone -- why hypervisor
When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is that?
RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com>.
Yeah, we can certainly do that.
Sonny, can you work on a slightly different version of the wizard to move the addCluster to before the network portion? If it's not much to change, we can add that to Bonita, otherwise Burbank.
Will
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From: Kevin Kluge [Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:02 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Would it be possible to take in the information for the creation of the first cluster (obviously including hypervisor type), then go into physical network with that information?
If we can't do that, or it's just unnatural, I think we should change the label of this field at a minimum.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Chan [mailto:will.chan@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> It's only there to assist with the network configuration. We need to know
> the first hypervisors you are going to add to a brand new zone. From there,
> we tailor the rest of the wizard. Once the first zone has been created, you
> can add additional hypervisors separately. If we did not do this, you would
> end up adding a zone, then configuring the physical network outside of the
> wizard.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:56 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or only in
> the add-cluster step at the end?
>
> I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I am
> saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not true.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:51 AM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> > Subject: Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> >
> > Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you
> > setup during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host
> > and network labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
> >
> > We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is
> created.
> >
> > -Alena.
> >
> > On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando"
> > <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
> > >But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
> > >clusters.
> > >
> > >Salvatore
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> > >> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
> > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> > >>
> > >> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why
> > >>is that?
RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Kevin Kluge <Ke...@citrix.com>.
Would it be possible to take in the information for the creation of the first cluster (obviously including hypervisor type), then go into physical network with that information?
If we can't do that, or it's just unnatural, I think we should change the label of this field at a minimum.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Chan [mailto:will.chan@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> It's only there to assist with the network configuration. We need to know
> the first hypervisors you are going to add to a brand new zone. From there,
> we tailor the rest of the wizard. Once the first zone has been created, you
> can add additional hypervisors separately. If we did not do this, you would
> end up adding a zone, then configuring the physical network outside of the
> wizard.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:56 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or only in
> the add-cluster step at the end?
>
> I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I am
> saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not true.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:51 AM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> > Subject: Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> >
> > Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you
> > setup during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host
> > and network labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
> >
> > We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is
> created.
> >
> > -Alena.
> >
> > On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando"
> > <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
> > >But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
> > >clusters.
> > >
> > >Salvatore
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> > >> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
> > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> > >>
> > >> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why
> > >>is that?
RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Will Chan <wi...@citrix.com>.
It's only there to assist with the network configuration. We need to know the first hypervisors you are going to add to a brand new zone. From there, we tailor the rest of the wizard. Once the first zone has been created, you can add additional hypervisors separately. If we did not do this, you would end up adding a zone, then configuring the physical network outside of the wizard.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:56 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
Subject: RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or only in the add-cluster step at the end?
I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I am saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not true.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:51 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you
> setup during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host
> and network labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
>
> We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is created.
>
> -Alena.
>
> On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando"
> <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
> >But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
> >clusters.
> >
> >Salvatore
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> >>
> >> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why
> >>is that?
Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
Kevin,
We use it for both:
1) Add the first cluster in the zone
2) Configure network labels for the first cluster's hypervisor (physical
network page)
Hypervisor network labels have to be configured before we add the first
host to the cluster.
I can see why the placement might seem confusing, but we need to know the
first hypervisor type before we start configuring physical network.
-Alena.
On 5/2/12 9:56 AM, "Kevin Kluge" <Ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or
>only in the add-cluster step at the end?
>
>I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I
>am saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not
>true.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:51 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
>> Subject: Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>>
>> Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you
>>setup
>> during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host and
>>network
>> labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
>>
>> We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is
>>created.
>>
>> -Alena.
>>
>> On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando" <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
>> >But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
>> >clusters.
>> >
>> >Salvatore
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
>> >> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>> >>
>> >> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is
>> >>that?
>
RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Kevin Kluge <Ke...@citrix.com>.
Alena are you saying this is needed for the physical network step? Or only in the add-cluster step at the end?
I find the current placement and text quite confusing. It sounds like I am saying this zone will be of this hypervisor type, which I know is not true.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:51 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org; Salvatore Orlando
> Subject: Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you setup
> during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host and network
> labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
>
> We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is created.
>
> -Alena.
>
> On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando" <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
> >But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
> >clusters.
> >
> >Salvatore
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> >> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
> >>
> >> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is
> >>that?
Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
Not quite correct. It's used as a hypervisor for the first cluster you
setup during "Add zone". It defines the hypervisor type for the host and
network labels that you also setup during the add zone process.
We don't use this setting as default anywhere else after the zone is
created.
-Alena.
On 5/2/12 6:40 AM, "Salvatore Orlando" <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>
wrote:
>I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
>But then you are still free to override that setting for specific
>clusters.
>
>Salvatore
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
>> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>>
>> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is
>>that?
RE: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Salvatore Orlando <Sa...@eu.citrix.com>.
I believe it is used as a default setting for all clusters in the zone.
But then you are still free to override that setting for specific clusters.
Salvatore
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kluge [mailto:Kevin.Kluge@citrix.com]
> Sent: 02 May 2012 14:06
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Add zone -- why hypervisor
>
> When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is that?
Re: Add zone -- why hypervisor
Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
Because you have to setup hypervisor network labels that will be
configured on the host which you also add as a part of add zone process.
-Alena.
On 5/2/12 6:06 AM, "Kevin Kluge" <Ke...@citrix.com> wrote:
>When you add a zone in 3.0.x there is a field for Hypervisor. Why is
>that?