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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> on 2005/11/27 18:33:26 UTC
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based
project..... ?
Legolas Woodland wrote:
> Hi
> Thank you for reading my post.
> I should write a web application based on JSF and Sun java Studio
> Creator 2.
> here is my requirements :
> 1-reporting and charting
> 2-database access ,(all kinds of bindings between database and grids ,
> text box , checkbox ....)
> 3-some Ajax Operation (e.g : user enter a web site name and press Verify
> , i should look at my database and tell him/her whether the site is in
> our database or not)
> 4-users enter some html in my application to be stored into database ,
> now i should determine whether they has Javascript embedded into their
> html or not
> and if they has java script i should remove it.
> 5-what kind of security consideration i should have ? cross site attacks
> , brute force attacks , java script based attacks....
> is there some library that can help me about them ?
>
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new components.
As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
very good.
Security, always have in mind sql injection hence, use precompiled
queries which remove that burden, I am not sure if ACEGI handles the
rest, I have not looked into the framework, but most of that stuff can
be killed by writing a dedicated servlet filter, which simple roots into
an error page in case of an attack.
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based project..... ?
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/28/05, Legolas Woodland <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 11/28/05, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/27/05, Werner Punz <werpu@gmx.at > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> > > > the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
> > > > hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
> > > > to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the newcomponents.
> > > > As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
> > > >
> > > > very good.
> > >
> > >
> > > Werner,
> > >
> > > This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are referring to
> > > are *not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a runtime layer on top
> > > of any standard JSF implementation (essentially at the same place that
> > > Shale would go).
> > >
> > >
> > > The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to replace
> > > it in the deployed runtime application.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> Thank you very much for your very expressive answers ,
> By your answer i found that for now there is no ready to use package of
> JSF component for JSC ?
> Another item , i worked with JSC and it seems to have problem with Unicode
> data.
> for example if i enter some data into a form and after submitting the form
> i try to show them in another page all of my character are converted to
> #2654.... (their ) Unicode representation.
> I followed this issue and found that it is a know problem and will be
> solved in next version
> now here are my question :
> 1-this is a problem related to Component library ?
> 2-if i make my application with current EA 2 version , will it works ok in
> next version ?
> 3-is there any date estimation about next release ?
> 4-how does JSC handle Internationalization ?
> in struts time i use bean:message tag and enter the tags in my resource
> file. now JSC make all jobs easier , does it has i18n features for
> text,.... ?
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
A much better place to ask questions about Sun Java Studio Creator is the
developer forum for it:
http://swforum.sun.com/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=123
There are also useful tutorials covering building internationalized
applications with Creator (along with tutorials on lots of other topics as
well):
http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscreator/learning/tutorials/<http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscreator/>
Craig
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based
project..... ?
Posted by Legolas Woodland <le...@gmail.com>.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
>
> On 11/28/05, *Legolas Woodland* <legolas.w@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Thank you for your replys.
> My question is from Mr McClanahan , does Studio creator 2 support :
> 1-adding new components to pallete ?
>
>
> Yes. You can package a set of components (including optional source
> for debugging, optional javadoc for popping up in the tool, and
> optional design time code to provide a rich user experience for your
> components) into a "component import library" that can be imported
> into Creator.
>
> A good starting point for information about this is an article
> maintained by Edwin Goei, one of the Creator engineers:
>
> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javatools/CustomComponentLibraries
>
> for example how i can add myface components to its component set ?
>
>
> It will take some work to set up the metadata to describe these
> components to Creator, plus it would be good to put some time into
> creating the design time behavior for them. I'd be happy to assist in
> these efforts.
>
> 2-there is a table component which could be bind to a data table
> now :
>
>
> I presume you are speaking of the Table component that is included in
> Creator 2 EA?
>
> 1-does it support inline editing ? i mean it shows an editable GUI
> to user based on field type ,use checkbox for boolean , text box
> for text..,
>
>
> When you choose columns for your table, you also get to choose what
> component goes inside the columns. They can be output or input
> fields, depending on your needs (just like the standard JSF
> <h:dataTable> component allows).
>
> 2-does it support saving that inline changed data ?
>
>
> JSF does all that for you ... the table component itself doesn't need
> to worry about it.
>
> for example user uncheck some of check boxes , change some of text
> fields... , now how it can save them all back to database ?
>
>
> There are many examples of how to do this in the tutorials that are
> available online (as is the product ... it's free if you register for
> the Sun Developer Network):
>
> http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscreator/
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 11/28/05, *Craig McClanahan* <craigmcc@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/27/05, *Werner Punz* <werpu@gmx.at
> <ma...@gmx.at>> wrote:
>
>
> If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> the code this tool generates is very good but roots into
> the com.sun
> hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will
> have
> to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new
> components.
> As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet,
> but it looks
> very good.
>
>
> Werner,
>
> This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are
> referring to are *not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a
> runtime layer on top of any standard JSF implementation
> (essentially at the same place that Shale would go).
>
>
> The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to
> replace it in the deployed runtime application.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
Thank you very much for your very expressive answers ,
By your answer i found that for now there is no ready to use package of
JSF component for JSC ?
Another item , i worked with JSC and it seems to have problem with
Unicode data.
for example if i enter some data into a form and after submitting the
form i try to show them in another page all of my character are
converted to #2654.... (their ) Unicode representation.
I followed this issue and found that it is a know problem and will be
solved in next version
now here are my question :
1-this is a problem related to Component library ?
2-if i make my application with current EA 2 version , will it works ok
in next version ?
3-is there any date estimation about next release ?
4-how does JSC handle Internationalization ?
in struts time i use bean:message tag and enter the tags in my resource
file. now JSC make all jobs easier , does it has i18n features for
text,.... ?
Thank you
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based project..... ?
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/28/05, Legolas Woodland <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Thank you for your replys.
> My question is from Mr McClanahan , does Studio creator 2 support :
> 1-adding new components to pallete ?
>
Yes. You can package a set of components (including optional source for
debugging, optional javadoc for popping up in the tool, and optional design
time code to provide a rich user experience for your components) into a
"component import library" that can be imported into Creator.
A good starting point for information about this is an article maintained by
Edwin Goei, one of the Creator engineers:
http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javatools/CustomComponentLibraries
for example how i can add myface components to its component set ?
>
It will take some work to set up the metadata to describe these components
to Creator, plus it would be good to put some time into creating the design
time behavior for them. I'd be happy to assist in these efforts.
2-there is a table component which could be bind to a data table
> now :
>
I presume you are speaking of the Table component that is included in
Creator 2 EA?
1-does it support inline editing ? i mean it shows an editable GUI to user
> based on field type ,use checkbox for boolean , text box for text..,
>
When you choose columns for your table, you also get to choose what
component goes inside the columns. They can be output or input fields,
depending on your needs (just like the standard JSF <h:dataTable> component
allows).
2-does it support saving that inline changed data ?
>
JSF does all that for you ... the table component itself doesn't need to
worry about it.
for example user uncheck some of check boxes , change some of text fields...
> , now how it can save them all back to database ?
>
There are many examples of how to do this in the tutorials that are
available online (as is the product ... it's free if you register for the
Sun Developer Network):
http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscreator/
Craig
On 11/28/05, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/27/05, Werner Punz <werpu@gmx.at > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> > > the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
> > > hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
> > > to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new components.
> > > As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
> > > very good.
> >
> >
> > Werner,
> >
> > This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are referring to are
> > *not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a runtime layer on top of any
> > standard JSF implementation (essentially at the same place that Shale
> > would go).
> >
> >
> > The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to replace it
> > in the deployed runtime application.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based project..... ?
Posted by Legolas Woodland <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Thank you for your replys.
My question is from Mr McClanahan , does Studio creator 2 support :
1-adding new components to pallete ?
for example how i can add myface components to its component set ?
2-there is a table component which could be bind to a data table
now :
1-does it support inline editing ? i mean it shows an editable GUI to user
based on field type ,use checkbox for boolean , text box for text..,
2-does it support saving that inline changed data ?
for example user uncheck some of check boxes , change some of text fields...
, now how it can save them all back to database ?
On 11/28/05, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/27/05, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
> >
> >
> > If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> > the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
> > hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
> > to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new components.
> > As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
> > very good.
>
>
> Werner,
>
> This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are referring to are
> *not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a runtime layer on top of any
> standard JSF implementation (essentially at the same place that Shale
> would go).
>
>
> The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to replace it
> in the deployed runtime application.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based
project..... ?
Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at>.
Ah ok, thanks for the clarification...
Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
>
> On 11/27/05, *Werner Punz* <werpu@gmx.at <ma...@gmx.at>> wrote:
>
>
> If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
> hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
> to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new components.
> As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
> very good.
>
>
> Werner,
>
> This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are referring to are
> *not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a runtime layer on top of any
> standard JSF implementation (essentially at the same place that Shale
> would go).
>
> The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to replace it
> in the deployed runtime application.
>
> Craig
>
Re: what libraries or frameworks i should use for my new jsf based project..... ?
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/27/05, Werner Punz <we...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
>
> If you use Studio Creator2 you will have to use the RI,
> the code this tool generates is very good but roots into the com.sun
> hierarchy left and right, which is not TCK, hence you will have
> to use the RI and additional creator runtimes for the new components.
> As for ajax, use ajax anywhere, I have not used it yet, but it looks
> very good.
Werner,
This is not quite right. The "com.sun" classes you are referring to are
*not* dependent on the JSF RI ... they are a runtime layer on top of any
standard JSF implementation (essentially at the same place that Shale would
go).
The RI is definitely used inside the tool, but you're free to replace it in
the deployed runtime application.
Craig