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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Chris <ra...@makeworld.com> on 2005/12/19 16:37:05 UTC

SA, perl 5.8.7 and rules

What would cause SA (sa-spamd) to core (perl) when there are rules in 
mail/spamassassin (recently downloaded from rulesemporium)?

If however, I leave the above dir empty, Both Amavis and SA startup 
without issues.

Any ideas would be helpfull.


Some specs:

FreeBSD 6.0

Perl:
Version - 5.8.7


SA:
Version - 3.1.0
Port Version - 4


Amavisd-new:
Version - 2.3.3
Port Version - 1
PortEpoch - 1


Ruleset: Current as of yesterday (12/18/05)
70_sare_adult.cf                70_sare_highrisk.cf 
70_sare_unsub.cf		70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
70_sare_html0.cf                70_sare_uri0.cf
70_sare_evilnum0.cf             70_sare_obfu.cf 
70_sare_whitelist.cf            local.cf.sample
70_sare_evilnum1.cf             70_sare_oem.cf 
72_sare_bml_post25x.cf          sa-blacklist.current.bigevil.cf
70_sare_genlsubj0.cf            70_sare_random.cf 
72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf   70_sare_header0.cf 
70_sare_specific.cf             99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf
70_sare_header1.cf              70_sare_spoof.cf 
bogus-virus-warnings.cf



Best regards,
Chris

Nature will tell you a direct lie if she can.

Re[2]: SA, perl 5.8.7 and rules

Posted by Robert Menschel <Ro...@Menschel.net>.
Hello Chris,

In addition,

Monday, December 19, 2005, 3:20:50 PM, you wrote:
C> Kai Schaetzl wrote:
>> Chris wrote on Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:37:05 -0600 (CST):
>>>What would cause SA (sa-spamd) to core (perl) when there are rules in
>>>mail/spamassassin (recently downloaded from rulesemporium)? 
>>> 
>>>If however, I leave the above dir empty, Both Amavis and SA startup
>>>without issues.

you indicated you're using
70_sare_adult.cf                70_sare_highrisk.cf
70_sare_unsub.cf                70_sare_bayes_poison_nxm.cf
70_sare_html0.cf                70_sare_uri0.cf
70_sare_evilnum0.cf             70_sare_obfu.cf 
70_sare_whitelist.cf            local.cf.sample
70_sare_evilnum1.cf             70_sare_oem.cf 
72_sare_bml_post25x.cf          sa-blacklist.current.bigevil.cf
70_sare_genlsubj0.cf            70_sare_random.cf 
72_sare_redirect_post3.0.0.cf   70_sare_header0.cf 
70_sare_specific.cf             99_sare_fraud_post25x.cf
70_sare_header1.cf              70_sare_spoof.cf 
bogus-virus-warnings.cf

In other words, you're using the SAFEST and most conservative subsets
of the html, evilnum, genlsubj, and uri rules files, the two safest of
the header rules files, and yet you're using 70_sare_highrisk.cf?  To
me (author or maintainer of most of these specific files), that does
not make sense.  If you're willing to be risky enough to use
highrisk.cf (which even I don't do on my production system), then you
should use all of the *1.cf and *3.cf files as well (I do use those,
even though I don't use highrisk.cf).

Bob Menschel




Re: SA, perl 5.8.7 and rules

Posted by Chris <ra...@makeworld.com>.
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Chris wrote on Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:37:05 -0600 (CST):
> 
> 
>>What would cause SA (sa-spamd) to core (perl) when there are rules in 
>>mail/spamassassin (recently downloaded from rulesemporium)? 
>> 
>>If however, I leave the above dir empty, Both Amavis and SA startup 
>>without issues.
> 
> 
> Well, because you use up too much memory? You use rulesets, you *should* 
> not use at all (f.i. bigevil). First determine which rules you really 
> need, second put only one of them in and see if it still crashes. Third, 
> you may want to use local.cf customization.
> 
> Kai
> 

I see what it was. There was one ruleset that seemed to break things. I
made note of it - and all is good.

Sorry for the newbie-ness


-- 
Best regards,
Chris

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Re: SA, perl 5.8.7 and rules

Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
Chris wrote on Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:37:05 -0600 (CST):

> What would cause SA (sa-spamd) to core (perl) when there are rules in 
> mail/spamassassin (recently downloaded from rulesemporium)? 
>  
> If however, I leave the above dir empty, Both Amavis and SA startup 
> without issues.

Well, because you use up too much memory? You use rulesets, you *should* 
not use at all (f.i. bigevil). First determine which rules you really 
need, second put only one of them in and see if it still crashes. Third, 
you may want to use local.cf customization.

Kai

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