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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2014/09/08 18:50:50 UTC
[VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
to accept the donation.
Thanks,
-Alex
AW: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
+1 binding
Chris
________________________________________
Von: grimmwerks <gr...@grimmwerks.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 8. September 2014 21:31
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
+1
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Garry Schafer
grimmwerks
grimm@grimmwerks.com
portfolio: www.grimmwerks.com/
On Sep 8, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Mihai Chira <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On 8 September 2014 18:28, Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
>>> vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
>> votes
>>> really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>>>
>>> The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>> )
>>> have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
>>> to accept the donation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by grimmwerks <gr...@grimmwerks.com>.
+1
--
Garry Schafer
grimmwerks
grimm@grimmwerks.com
portfolio: www.grimmwerks.com/
On Sep 8, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Mihai Chira <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On 8 September 2014 18:28, Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
>>> vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
>> votes
>>> really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>>>
>>> The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
>> )
>>> have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
>>> to accept the donation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mihai Chira <mi...@gmail.com>.
+1
On 8 September 2014 18:28, Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> > vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
> votes
> > really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
> >
> > The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> )
> > have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> > to accept the donation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Rushme Nayak <ru...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> > vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
> votes
> > really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
> >
> > The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> )
> > have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> > to accept the donation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
--
Warm Regards,
*Rush-me*
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
> really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>
> The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
> have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> to accept the donation.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by brunopacola <br...@gmail.com>.
I'm very pleased with this advancement FlatSpark. I am even more enthused to
work on skin for other components (eg: DataGrid)
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FlatSpark Skin: http://akamud.github.io/FlatSpark
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Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I made some mistakes about the Representing part, but I already
emailed the adjusted document.
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I'm definitely looking forward to it. And thanks again for working through
> the process.
>
> I saw the Secretary would like you to make a few changes to the grant
> form. I just want to make sure you got his response. I'll watch for the
> Secretary's acceptance email when you file the adjusted form.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/16/14 4:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I just sent the email to the Secretary, thanks everyone for all the help!
> >We're really excited about this :)
> >
> >On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Excellent news! I'll be watching for the notification from the
> >>Secretary.
> >> It can sometimes take a few days. They have a board meeting tomorrow.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/16/14 4:53 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Okay, I removed the files needed then zipped the source code and
> >>uploaded
> >> >to GitHub with its MD5 here
> >> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/releases/tag/v1.0
> >> >I'll be sending the signed files today along with that link.
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Good questions, answers inline
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I
> >> >>>write
> >> >>> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the
> >>Adobe.
> >> >>>As
> >> >>> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you
> >>should be
> >> >>> ok.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> They don't, so we are clear on that.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
> >> >>> secretary.
> >> >>> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5
> >>hash
> >> >>>for
> >> >>> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a
> >> >>>tag
> >> >>> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today).
> >>Then
> >> >>> we'll download the code from there.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any
> >> >>more
> >> >> questions.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I'm definitely looking forward to it. And thanks again for working through
the process.
I saw the Secretary would like you to make a few changes to the grant
form. I just want to make sure you got his response. I'll watch for the
Secretary's acceptance email when you file the adjusted form.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 9/16/14 4:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just sent the email to the Secretary, thanks everyone for all the help!
>We're really excited about this :)
>
>On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Excellent news! I'll be watching for the notification from the
>>Secretary.
>> It can sometimes take a few days. They have a board meeting tomorrow.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On 9/16/14 4:53 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Okay, I removed the files needed then zipped the source code and
>>uploaded
>> >to GitHub with its MD5 here
>> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/releases/tag/v1.0
>> >I'll be sending the signed files today along with that link.
>> >
>> >On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>
>>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Good questions, answers inline
>> >>>
>> >>> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I
>> >>>write
>> >>> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the
>>Adobe.
>> >>>As
>> >>> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you
>>should be
>> >>> ok.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> They don't, so we are clear on that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
>> >>> secretary.
>> >>> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5
>>hash
>> >>>for
>> >>> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a
>> >>>tag
>> >>> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today).
>>Then
>> >>> we'll download the code from there.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any
>> >>more
>> >> questions.
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
I just sent the email to the Secretary, thanks everyone for all the help!
We're really excited about this :)
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Excellent news! I'll be watching for the notification from the Secretary.
> It can sometimes take a few days. They have a board meeting tomorrow.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 9/16/14 4:53 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Okay, I removed the files needed then zipped the source code and uploaded
> >to GitHub with its MD5 here
> >https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/releases/tag/v1.0
> >I'll be sending the signed files today along with that link.
> >
> >On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good questions, answers inline
> >>>
> >>> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I
> >>>write
> >>> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the Adobe.
> >>>As
> >>> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you should be
> >>> ok.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They don't, so we are clear on that.
> >>
> >>
> >>> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
> >>> secretary.
> >>> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5 hash
> >>>for
> >>> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a
> >>>tag
> >>> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today). Then
> >>> we'll download the code from there.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any
> >>more
> >> questions.
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Excellent news! I'll be watching for the notification from the Secretary.
It can sometimes take a few days. They have a board meeting tomorrow.
-Alex
On 9/16/14 4:53 AM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Okay, I removed the files needed then zipped the source code and uploaded
>to GitHub with its MD5 here
>https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/releases/tag/v1.0
>I'll be sending the signed files today along with that link.
>
>On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good questions, answers inline
>>>
>>> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I
>>>write
>>> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the Adobe.
>>>As
>>> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you should be
>>> ok.
>>>
>>
>> They don't, so we are clear on that.
>>
>>
>>> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
>>> secretary.
>>> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5 hash
>>>for
>>> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a
>>>tag
>>> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today). Then
>>> we'll download the code from there.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any
>>more
>> questions.
>>
>>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Okay, I removed the files needed then zipped the source code and uploaded
to GitHub with its MD5 here
https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark/releases/tag/v1.0
I'll be sending the signed files today along with that link.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Good questions, answers inline
>>
>> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I write
>> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the Adobe. As
>> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you should be
>> ok.
>>
>
> They don't, so we are clear on that.
>
>
>> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
>> secretary.
>> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5 hash for
>> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a tag
>> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today). Then
>> we'll download the code from there.
>>
>
> Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any more
> questions.
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Good questions, answers inline
>
> OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I write
> in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the Adobe. As
> long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you should be ok.
>
They don't, so we are clear on that.
> You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
> secretary.
> The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5 hash for
> the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a tag
> or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today). Then
> we'll download the code from there.
>
Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I'll let you know if I have any more
questions.
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Good questions, answers inline
On 9/14/14 7:24 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Oops, just to be clear, I meant we will each sign the Software Grant
>referencing the same file.
>
>On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We do work together at the same company, but all the work was done
>>during
>> our spare time, as two people contributing on GitHub, with no
>>involvement
>> of our company.
OK. At Adobe the employment agreement actually says they own code I write
in my spare time unless I have a previous arrangement with the Adobe. As
long as your company doesn't have an agreement like this, you should be ok.
>>
>> I'm just confused about how to send the zip file containing the source
>> code. I created a branch on our GitHub project which I'll be updating in
>> order to remove any files that won't be donated. Once I'm done, should I
>> generate a ZIP file to send in the email to the Secretary with all the
>> signed forms?
You don't have to send the zip file with the Software Grant to the
secretary.
The Exhibit A in the Software Grant form just needs a URL and MD5 hash for
the files which can live in your GitHub project. You can also use a tag
or hash in Exhibit A (hash is preferred, I just found out today). Then
we'll download the code from there.
Thanks again,
-Alex
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Oops, just to be clear, I meant we will each sign the Software Grant
referencing the same file.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We do work together at the same company, but all the work was done during
> our spare time, as two people contributing on GitHub, with no involvement
> of our company.
>
> I think in our case we should each sign the ICLA and reference the same
> ZIP file, since we both worked together on this.
>
> I'm just confused about how to send the zip file containing the source
> code. I created a branch on our GitHub project which I'll be updating in
> order to remove any files that won't be donated. Once I'm done, should I
> generate a ZIP file to send in the email to the Secretary with all the
> signed forms?
>
> Thanks for taking the time helping us on this.
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> One other note: I found at the bottom of [3] the following:
>>
>> -----
>> The software grant requires that "Licensor owns or has sufficient rights
>> to contribute the software source code...". In the case where there are
>> multiple entities involved that only together have sufficient rights (for
>> example in the case of an existing external project with multiple
>> contributors), there are basically two possibilities to continue:
>>
>> 1. All entities sign the same software grant together and submit one
>> software grant form. This is preferred but obviously can complicate the
>> process considerably.
>> 2. The alternative is that each party sign its own software grant while
>> everyone references the same contribution (designated by a URL and an MD5
>> hash over the ZIP file representing the contribution). It is recommended
>> that the software grant form is modified in order to have a line for each
>> party so the completeness of the paperwork can be verified upon receipt.
>> -----
>>
>> There are two relevant points in there:
>> A) If you don't have the authority to sign for the other contributor then
>> you can both sign or each fill out a grant form.
>> B) It isn't required to attach the donated software to a JIRA ticket.
>> Adobe has not done so for past donations. For Radii8, a branch and tag
>> was provided. Judah could have also provided a zip on some server he
>> controls and the MD5 hash.
>>
>> It probably doesn't matter in this case because Justin already did a quick
>> scan so we don't expect to find things that need further adjustment before
>> actually being accepted, but in the general case, sometimes things do need
>> to change. And then the risk is that if folks see it in JIRA they can
>> start grabbing it before it has been truly cleared for use by Apache. It
>> is one thing for you to say it is ok to donate, but another thing for
>> Apache to accept every file. For example, you can donate a SWF, but
>> Apache does not accept compiled source, it only wants source code. Only
>> the PMC needs to see the donated package anyway and what finally goes in
>> the Apache repo will probably be slightly different, so you have the
>> option to tell us where the files are on a less public channel than dev@
>> or JIRA + issues@, or we'll see it in the grant form when the Secretary
>> files it.
>>
>> Looking ahead, here are the steps that follow once you send in the
>> software grant form to the Secretary:
>>
>> 1) We'll get notification from the Secretary that the grant has been
>> filed.
>> 2) The PMC members can have a look at the files.
>> 3) Justin or I will take the files and prepare it to be acceptable for an
>> Apache repo. We may need to change headers and/or adjust or add the
>> LICENSE and NOTICE files, remove compiled sources, etc.
>> 4) Justin or I fill out the IP Clearance form as described in [3].
>> 5) At least one representative from the Apache Incubator reviews the files
>> that we claim are acceptable for an Apache repo
>> 6) More adjustments are made if other issues are found.
>> 7) Once approved, we can commit the files to either a new repo or one of
>> the existing repos.
>>
>> Once again, thank you for taking the time and effort to donate FlatSpark.
>> I'm really looking forward to making it work in FlexJS.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>>
>> On 9/13/14 9:16 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Mahmoud,
>> >
>> >Each of you should file your own ICLA [1]. Just to make sure, none of
>> >this work was done for a corporation or while you were employed by a
>> >corporation?
>> >
>> >The software grant [2] is a legal document like [1], but while [1] is
>> >about an individual independent of any business, [2] is business
>> contract.
>> > So, the question is what kind of business relationship, if any, exists
>> >between the two of you, and who would sign any other contract on behalf
>> of
>> >these assets? At Adobe, I don't sign the grant, my boss can't, and
>> >neither can his boss, it has to be a VP. If you two are equal partners
>> or
>> >just two people contributing to GitHub, then both of you should sign the
>> >software grant form.
>> >
>> >HTH,
>> >-Alex
>> >
>> >[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >[2] https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>> >
>> >On 9/13/14 12:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Since FlatSpark is made by two people, should we both sign the forms? If
>> >>so, is there a special form for more than one contributor or should I
>> >>just
>> >>copy-and-paste when necessary?
>> >>
>> >>On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Justin Mclean
>> >><ju...@classsoftware.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> > Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on
>> >>>the
>> >>> zip
>> >>> > file I'll be sending?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines
>> >>>of
>> >>> code.
>> >>>
>> >>> Justin
>> >
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
We do work together at the same company, but all the work was done during
our spare time, as two people contributing on GitHub, with no involvement
of our company.
I think in our case we should each sign the ICLA and reference the same ZIP
file, since we both worked together on this.
I'm just confused about how to send the zip file containing the source
code. I created a branch on our GitHub project which I'll be updating in
order to remove any files that won't be donated. Once I'm done, should I
generate a ZIP file to send in the email to the Secretary with all the
signed forms?
Thanks for taking the time helping us on this.
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> One other note: I found at the bottom of [3] the following:
>
> -----
> The software grant requires that "Licensor owns or has sufficient rights
> to contribute the software source code...". In the case where there are
> multiple entities involved that only together have sufficient rights (for
> example in the case of an existing external project with multiple
> contributors), there are basically two possibilities to continue:
>
> 1. All entities sign the same software grant together and submit one
> software grant form. This is preferred but obviously can complicate the
> process considerably.
> 2. The alternative is that each party sign its own software grant while
> everyone references the same contribution (designated by a URL and an MD5
> hash over the ZIP file representing the contribution). It is recommended
> that the software grant form is modified in order to have a line for each
> party so the completeness of the paperwork can be verified upon receipt.
> -----
>
> There are two relevant points in there:
> A) If you don't have the authority to sign for the other contributor then
> you can both sign or each fill out a grant form.
> B) It isn't required to attach the donated software to a JIRA ticket.
> Adobe has not done so for past donations. For Radii8, a branch and tag
> was provided. Judah could have also provided a zip on some server he
> controls and the MD5 hash.
>
> It probably doesn't matter in this case because Justin already did a quick
> scan so we don't expect to find things that need further adjustment before
> actually being accepted, but in the general case, sometimes things do need
> to change. And then the risk is that if folks see it in JIRA they can
> start grabbing it before it has been truly cleared for use by Apache. It
> is one thing for you to say it is ok to donate, but another thing for
> Apache to accept every file. For example, you can donate a SWF, but
> Apache does not accept compiled source, it only wants source code. Only
> the PMC needs to see the donated package anyway and what finally goes in
> the Apache repo will probably be slightly different, so you have the
> option to tell us where the files are on a less public channel than dev@
> or JIRA + issues@, or we'll see it in the grant form when the Secretary
> files it.
>
> Looking ahead, here are the steps that follow once you send in the
> software grant form to the Secretary:
>
> 1) We'll get notification from the Secretary that the grant has been filed.
> 2) The PMC members can have a look at the files.
> 3) Justin or I will take the files and prepare it to be acceptable for an
> Apache repo. We may need to change headers and/or adjust or add the
> LICENSE and NOTICE files, remove compiled sources, etc.
> 4) Justin or I fill out the IP Clearance form as described in [3].
> 5) At least one representative from the Apache Incubator reviews the files
> that we claim are acceptable for an Apache repo
> 6) More adjustments are made if other issues are found.
> 7) Once approved, we can commit the files to either a new repo or one of
> the existing repos.
>
> Once again, thank you for taking the time and effort to donate FlatSpark.
> I'm really looking forward to making it work in FlexJS.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>
> On 9/13/14 9:16 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi Mahmoud,
> >
> >Each of you should file your own ICLA [1]. Just to make sure, none of
> >this work was done for a corporation or while you were employed by a
> >corporation?
> >
> >The software grant [2] is a legal document like [1], but while [1] is
> >about an individual independent of any business, [2] is business contract.
> > So, the question is what kind of business relationship, if any, exists
> >between the two of you, and who would sign any other contract on behalf of
> >these assets? At Adobe, I don't sign the grant, my boss can't, and
> >neither can his boss, it has to be a VP. If you two are equal partners or
> >just two people contributing to GitHub, then both of you should sign the
> >software grant form.
> >
> >HTH,
> >-Alex
> >
> >[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >[2] https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> >
> >On 9/13/14 12:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Since FlatSpark is made by two people, should we both sign the forms? If
> >>so, is there a special form for more than one contributor or should I
> >>just
> >>copy-and-paste when necessary?
> >>
> >>On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Justin Mclean
> >><ju...@classsoftware.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> > Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on
> >>>the
> >>> zip
> >>> > file I'll be sending?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines
> >>>of
> >>> code.
> >>>
> >>> Justin
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
One other note: I found at the bottom of [3] the following:
-----
The software grant requires that "Licensor owns or has sufficient rights
to contribute the software source code...". In the case where there are
multiple entities involved that only together have sufficient rights (for
example in the case of an existing external project with multiple
contributors), there are basically two possibilities to continue:
1. All entities sign the same software grant together and submit one
software grant form. This is preferred but obviously can complicate the
process considerably.
2. The alternative is that each party sign its own software grant while
everyone references the same contribution (designated by a URL and an MD5
hash over the ZIP file representing the contribution). It is recommended
that the software grant form is modified in order to have a line for each
party so the completeness of the paperwork can be verified upon receipt.
-----
There are two relevant points in there:
A) If you don't have the authority to sign for the other contributor then
you can both sign or each fill out a grant form.
B) It isn't required to attach the donated software to a JIRA ticket.
Adobe has not done so for past donations. For Radii8, a branch and tag
was provided. Judah could have also provided a zip on some server he
controls and the MD5 hash.
It probably doesn't matter in this case because Justin already did a quick
scan so we don't expect to find things that need further adjustment before
actually being accepted, but in the general case, sometimes things do need
to change. And then the risk is that if folks see it in JIRA they can
start grabbing it before it has been truly cleared for use by Apache. It
is one thing for you to say it is ok to donate, but another thing for
Apache to accept every file. For example, you can donate a SWF, but
Apache does not accept compiled source, it only wants source code. Only
the PMC needs to see the donated package anyway and what finally goes in
the Apache repo will probably be slightly different, so you have the
option to tell us where the files are on a less public channel than dev@
or JIRA + issues@, or we'll see it in the grant form when the Secretary
files it.
Looking ahead, here are the steps that follow once you send in the
software grant form to the Secretary:
1) We'll get notification from the Secretary that the grant has been filed.
2) The PMC members can have a look at the files.
3) Justin or I will take the files and prepare it to be acceptable for an
Apache repo. We may need to change headers and/or adjust or add the
LICENSE and NOTICE files, remove compiled sources, etc.
4) Justin or I fill out the IP Clearance form as described in [3].
5) At least one representative from the Apache Incubator reviews the files
that we claim are acceptable for an Apache repo
6) More adjustments are made if other issues are found.
7) Once approved, we can commit the files to either a new repo or one of
the existing repos.
Once again, thank you for taking the time and effort to donate FlatSpark.
I'm really looking forward to making it work in FlexJS.
-Alex
[3] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
On 9/13/14 9:16 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>Hi Mahmoud,
>
>Each of you should file your own ICLA [1]. Just to make sure, none of
>this work was done for a corporation or while you were employed by a
>corporation?
>
>The software grant [2] is a legal document like [1], but while [1] is
>about an individual independent of any business, [2] is business contract.
> So, the question is what kind of business relationship, if any, exists
>between the two of you, and who would sign any other contract on behalf of
>these assets? At Adobe, I don't sign the grant, my boss can't, and
>neither can his boss, it has to be a VP. If you two are equal partners or
>just two people contributing to GitHub, then both of you should sign the
>software grant form.
>
>HTH,
>-Alex
>
>[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>[2] https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
>
>On 9/13/14 12:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Since FlatSpark is made by two people, should we both sign the forms? If
>>so, is there a special form for more than one contributor or should I
>>just
>>copy-and-paste when necessary?
>>
>>On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Justin Mclean
>><ju...@classsoftware.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on
>>>the
>>> zip
>>> > file I'll be sending?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines
>>>of
>>> code.
>>>
>>> Justin
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Hi Mahmoud,
Each of you should file your own ICLA [1]. Just to make sure, none of
this work was done for a corporation or while you were employed by a
corporation?
The software grant [2] is a legal document like [1], but while [1] is
about an individual independent of any business, [2] is business contract.
So, the question is what kind of business relationship, if any, exists
between the two of you, and who would sign any other contract on behalf of
these assets? At Adobe, I don't sign the grant, my boss can't, and
neither can his boss, it has to be a VP. If you two are equal partners or
just two people contributing to GitHub, then both of you should sign the
software grant form.
HTH,
-Alex
[1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
[2] https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
On 9/13/14 12:32 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Since FlatSpark is made by two people, should we both sign the forms? If
>so, is there a special form for more than one contributor or should I just
>copy-and-paste when necessary?
>
>On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the
>> zip
>> > file I'll be sending?
>>
>>
>> I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines
>>of
>> code.
>>
>> Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Since FlatSpark is made by two people, should we both sign the forms? If
so, is there a special form for more than one contributor or should I just
copy-and-paste when necessary?
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the
> zip
> > file I'll be sending?
>
>
> I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines of
> code.
>
> Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the zip
> file I'll be sending?
I'd leave them in, they are basically boilerplate and only a few lines of code.
Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think so. I tried contacting the owner but got no response, so I think
> I'll just remove it.
>
> Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the zip
> file I'll be sending?
>
> I also have a question, after the project is donated how can I keep
> contributing to it? Will it be via pull requests?
>
>
Yes, pull requests should be good. You could also create patches and
attach to JIRA tickets as well. I think PRs would be much easier.
The more you contribute, the better the chances are the you will be
nominated and approved as a committer. Then you can just commit the code
into the repos yourself.
Thanks again, for your contributions. This is very exciting.
Regards,
Om
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > I also am reading jude's post commenting what he learned from the
> process
> > > of donation of Radii8. I think it will help me a lot.
> >
> > I think your donation is a lot simpler, other than the one file already
> > identified I don't think there's much more to do.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Send the Software Grant and ICLA to secretary@apache.org. If you have
questions, ask on this mailing list.
On 9/12/14 7:38 PM, "Mahmoud Ali" <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I think so. I tried contacting the owner but got no response, so I think
>I'll just remove it.
>
>Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the zip
>file I'll be sending?
Up to you, individual files can be contributed later.
>
>I also have a question, after the project is donated how can I keep
>contributing to it? Will it be via pull requests?
For Radii8, Judah was given commit rights once it was clear the donation
would pass IP clearance. I expect the same will happen here. The ICLA
will be needed first so make sure to get that sent in. If there are other
major contributors, they can also file an ICLA.
And thanks again for donating!
-Alex
>
>On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > I also am reading jude's post commenting what he learned from the
>>process
>> > of donation of Radii8. I think it will help me a lot.
>>
>> I think your donation is a lot simpler, other than the one file already
>> identified I don't think there's much more to do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
I think so. I tried contacting the owner but got no response, so I think
I'll just remove it.
Regarding the other custom components, should I remove them too on the zip
file I'll be sending?
I also have a question, after the project is donated how can I keep
contributing to it? Will it be via pull requests?
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I also am reading jude's post commenting what he learned from the process
> > of donation of Radii8. I think it will help me a lot.
>
> I think your donation is a lot simpler, other than the one file already
> identified I don't think there's much more to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I also am reading jude's post commenting what he learned from the process
> of donation of Radii8. I think it will help me a lot.
I think your donation is a lot simpler, other than the one file already identified I don't think there's much more to do.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
Okay, I'll be going through the links this weekend.
I also am reading jude's post commenting what he learned from the process
of donation of Radii8. I think it will help me a lot.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > That's great! What would the next steps be?
>
>
> My understanding is that you need to generate a list of the software to
> donate and fill out a Software Grant [1]. It would be a good idea to to
> sign and send in an ICLA for yourself as well [2]. Don't send those forms
> to the public dev list.
>
> Zipping up the content you want to donate and placing it in JIRA and then
> referencing that JIRA in the software grant seems a good way to do it. That
> way we can track everything in one place.
>
> If you really want the details on the process it's described here [3],
> here [4] and here [5].
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> 2. http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> 3. http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants
> 4. http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
> 5 .http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> That's great! What would the next steps be?
My understanding is that you need to generate a list of the software to donate and fill out a Software Grant [1]. It would be a good idea to to sign and send in an ICLA for yourself as well [2]. Don't send those forms to the public dev list.
Zipping up the content you want to donate and placing it in JIRA and then referencing that JIRA in the software grant seems a good way to do it. That way we can track everything in one place.
If you really want the details on the process it's described here [3], here [4] and here [5].
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
2. http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
3. http://www.apache.org/licenses/#grants
4. http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
5 .http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
That's great! What would the next steps be?
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Think we can call a result here :-)
>
> Justin
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Think we can call a result here :-)
Justin
RE: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
+1 (binding)
-----Message d'origine-----
De : lluuccaa1 [mailto:lluuccaa1@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 9 septembre 2014 12:09
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
+1
On 9 September 2014 11:16, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (binding)Frédéric THOMAS
>
> > From: aharui@adobe.com
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
> > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:50:50 +0000
> >
> > Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the
> > official vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that
> > donation
> votes
> > really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
> >
> > The creators of the FlatSpark theme
> > (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> )
> > have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please
> > vote to accept the donation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by lluuccaa1 <ll...@gmail.com>.
+1
On 9 September 2014 11:16, Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (binding)Frédéric THOMAS
>
> > From: aharui@adobe.com
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
> > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:50:50 +0000
> >
> > Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> > vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
> votes
> > really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
> >
> > The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> )
> > have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> > to accept the donation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
>
>
RE: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
+1 (binding)Frédéric THOMAS
> From: aharui@adobe.com
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 16:50:50 +0000
>
> Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
> really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>
> The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
> have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> to accept the donation.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Eliezer Reis <el...@gmail.com>.
I vote YES
2014-09-08 14:02 GMT-03:00 Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> +1 (binding)
>
> EdB
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> > vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation
> votes
> > really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
> >
> > The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark
> )
> > have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> > to accept the donation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
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> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
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Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
+1 (binding)
EdB
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
> vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
> really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>
> The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
> have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
> to accept the donation.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>
--
Ix Multimedia Software
Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht
T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 binding
On Sep 8, 2014 10:24 AM, "Harbs" <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Harbs
>
>
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
+1 (binding)
Harbs
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
+1 binding
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Peter Ent <pe...@adobe.com>.
+1 (binding)
Peter Ent
Adobe Systems
On 9/8/14 12:50 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
>vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
>really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>
>The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
>have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
>to accept the donation.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>-Alex
>
RE: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
+1 Binding
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:51 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
to accept the donation.
Thanks,
-Alex
Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by piotrz <pi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
+1 (binding)
Thanks,
Piotr
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Re: [VOTE} Accept FlatSpark Theme Donation
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
+1 binding
On 9/8/14 9:50 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>Didn't see any objection in the discuss thread, so time for the official
>vote. I saw a note on an Apache incubator page saying that donation votes
>really shouldn't be lazy so PMC members please reply with votes.
>
>The creators of the FlatSpark theme (https://github.com/akamud/FlatSpark)
>have generously offered to donate the theme to Apache Flex. Please vote
>to accept the donation.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>-Alex
>