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Posted to dev@royale.apache.org by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> on 2017/11/27 21:16:42 UTC
[Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Hi,
I started to work on an HTML mockup for the UI as the first draft [1] and I
wonder if we really should embed this app within the webpage or if we rather
should open a new window that contains just the app.
(Without the background image at the top, cause it needs a lot of the screen
size)
I also will start to finish the server side but we should think about on how
to provide the services in parallel.
(We need a NodeJS installation with access to the file system).
@Alex
I remember that you offered to host this stuff on your server?
Is that right?
Or could we go with Apache Infra?
If nothing works I maybe also could provide something...
Thoughts?
Olaf
[1] https://snag.gy/DQbmwf.jpg
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
This looks awesome!
> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:21 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here is a screenshot in the meantime :-)
>
> https://snag.gy/ElDsMR.jpg
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Cool!!!! :)
>>
>> Waiting to your commit! :)
>>
>> 2017-12-20 11:12 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Update: I have the UI hooked up. It's starting to resemble a real app
>> now
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Erik, can I haz the VM details, please? I would like to deploy this
>>> somewhere so folks can take a look.
>>>
>>> Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache
>> github
>>> repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
>>> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Olaf,
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with pleasure
>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Piotr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
>>>>
>>>>>> Olaf, that worked!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
>>>>> I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to
>> go
>>>>> ahead!!
>>>>> Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of
>>> SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
>>>>> related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML
>>> client
>>>>> that is executed from your local file system.
>>>>> We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
>>>>> Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I
>> never
>>>>> tried
>>>>> it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Olaf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>
>>>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>
>> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Olaf and Om,
that shows impressive!! Please keep the good work! That would be a huge
point to make people play Royale and put them near to adopt it!
Looks so good!! :)
Carlos
2017-12-20 11:21 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> Here is a screenshot in the meantime :-)
>
> https://snag.gy/ElDsMR.jpg
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Cool!!!! :)
> >
> > Waiting to your commit! :)
> >
> > 2017-12-20 11:12 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Update: I have the UI hooked up. It's starting to resemble a real app
> > now
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Erik, can I haz the VM details, please? I would like to deploy this
> > > somewhere so folks can take a look.
> > >
> > > Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache
> > github
> > > repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Olaf,
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with
> pleasure
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> > > >
> > > > > >Olaf, that worked!
> > > > >
> > > > > Great :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > >I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
> > > > > I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to
> > go
> > > > > ahead!!
> > > > > Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of
> > > SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
> > > > > related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML
> > > client
> > > > > that is executed from your local file system.
> > > > > We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the
> service.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
> > > > > Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I
> > never
> > > > > tried
> > > > > it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Olaf
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > > >
> > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Here is a screenshot in the meantime :-)
https://snag.gy/ElDsMR.jpg
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Cool!!!! :)
>
> Waiting to your commit! :)
>
> 2017-12-20 11:12 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Update: I have the UI hooked up. It's starting to resemble a real app
> now
> > :-)
> >
> > Erik, can I haz the VM details, please? I would like to deploy this
> > somewhere so folks can take a look.
> >
> > Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache
> github
> > repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> > piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Olaf,
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with pleasure
> > :)
> > >
> > > Thanks, Piotr
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> > >
> > > > >Olaf, that worked!
> > > >
> > > > Great :-)
> > > >
> > > > >I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
> > > > I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to
> go
> > > > ahead!!
> > > > Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of
> > SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
> > > > related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML
> > client
> > > > that is executed from your local file system.
> > > > We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
> > > >
> > > > >Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
> > > > Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I
> never
> > > > tried
> > > > it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help!!
> > > >
> > > > Olaf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Piotr Zarzycki
> > >
> > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Cool!!!! :)
Waiting to your commit! :)
2017-12-20 11:12 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
> Update: I have the UI hooked up. It's starting to resemble a real app now
> :-)
>
> Erik, can I haz the VM details, please? I would like to deploy this
> somewhere so folks can take a look.
>
> Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache github
> repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Olaf,
> >
> > Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with pleasure
> :)
> >
> > Thanks, Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> >
> > > >Olaf, that worked!
> > >
> > > Great :-)
> > >
> > > >I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
> > > I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to go
> > > ahead!!
> > > Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of
> SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
> > > related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML
> client
> > > that is executed from your local file system.
> > > We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
> > >
> > > >Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
> > > Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I never
> > > tried
> > > it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help!!
> > >
> > > Olaf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Piotr Zarzycki
> >
> > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
> >
>
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Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
> OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> > Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache
> github
> > repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
>
> I've just committed it to [1].
> (Cause I've accidentally committed it to master at first the master history
> is polluted a bit)
> If I've overlooked that you've already committed it somewhere feel free to
> remove it.
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/develop
I've committed my change as well. I've updated the Readme with
instructions on how to to setup and test locally.
Thanks,
Om
>
>
>
>
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>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache github
> repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
I've just committed it to [1].
(Cause I've accidentally committed it to master at first the master history
is polluted a bit)
If I've overlooked that you've already committed it somewhere feel free to
remove it.
Thanks,
Olaf
[1]
https://github.com/apache/royale-website/tree/develop
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Yup. Also, the more apps we have written in AS3, the more it shows how it’s a viable language for writing Node.js apps.
Harbs
> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
>
> Harbs wrote
>> A nice exercise would be to convert the code to AS.
>
> I already thought about implementing our services here using AS3...
> At the end, this would mean that anybody could implement client and server
> by using just one language: AS3... not so bad ;-)
>
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Harbs wrote
> A nice exercise would be to convert the code to AS.
I already thought about implementing our services here using AS3...
At the end, this would mean that anybody could implement client and server
by using just one language: AS3... not so bad ;-)
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
A nice exercise would be to convert the code to AS.
Josh has a few Node.js projects done using Royale. We should be eating our own dogfood… ;-)
My $0.02.
Harbs
> On Dec 20, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
>
>> I have the UI hooked up
> Great, looks good! :-)
>
>
>> Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache github
> repo?
>
> Of course, go ahead!
> (It already has the Apache license header)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
> I have the UI hooked up
Great, looks good! :-)
>Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache github
repo?
Of course, go ahead!
(It already has the Apache license header)
Thanks,
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
> I would like to deploy this
somewhere so folks can take a look.
Om, please keep in mind that we need to implement something at server side
that takes care of removing the temporary created "Royale project
directories".
I've chosen the approach of always creating a new dir with each request to
avoid implementation overhead at the beginning (authentication,
cookies,...).
Other ideas are welcome ;-)
Maybe we could remove a particular directory within the GET request after
the files are delivered... not sure. Or we run a job that removes all dirs
older than e.g. one day...
Thanks,
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Update: I have the UI hooked up. It's starting to resemble a real app now
:-)
Erik, can I haz the VM details, please? I would like to deploy this
somewhere so folks can take a look.
Olaf, do I have your permission to commit this code into the Apache github
repo? Once I put that in, more folks can start contributing.
Thanks,
Om
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Olaf,
>
> Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with pleasure :)
>
> Thanks, Piotr
>
>
> 2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
>
> > >Olaf, that worked!
> >
> > Great :-)
> >
> > >I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
> > I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to go
> > ahead!!
> > Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
> > related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML client
> > that is executed from your local file system.
> > We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
> >
> > >Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
> > Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I never
> > tried
> > it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
> >
> > Thanks for your help!!
> >
> > Olaf
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Piotr Zarzycki
>
> Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
> <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Piotr Zarzycki <pi...@gmail.com>.
Olaf,
Looking forward to your first commit! :) I will review it with pleasure :)
Thanks, Piotr
2017-12-19 20:21 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> >Olaf, that worked!
>
> Great :-)
>
> >I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
> I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to go
> ahead!!
> Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
> related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML client
> that is executed from your local file system.
> We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
>
> >Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
> Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I never
> tried
> it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
>
> Thanks for your help!!
>
> Olaf
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://apache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com/
>
--
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Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
<https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
>Olaf, that worked!
Great :-)
>I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
I am also started to work on this but of course, you are welcome to go
ahead!!
Keep in mind that you maybe have to take care of SOP(Same-Origin-Policy)
related issues when you try to call the service from a Royale/HTML client
that is executed from your local file system.
We maybe should serve the client from the same origin as the service.
>Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
Yes, as soon as I am able to login to the repo. I am sorry but I never tried
it since we are Royale cause I fear the effort ;-)
Thanks for your help!!
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Olaf, that worked!
I'm going to try and add some UI around this.
Do you want to simply check this into our apache github repo?
Thanks,
Om
On Dec 18, 2017 1:37 PM, "Olaf Krueger" <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
> OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> > Can you give an
> > example of what the POST payload should look like?
>
> I've tested it by using this example [1].
> (It contains some unnecessary /t/r, but it works for me)
> Just copy and paste it to e.g. Postman.
>
> Hope this helps, thanks for testing!
> If I'll found enough time I'll publish a simple client soon so that testing
> will be easier.
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
>
> [1] https://gist.github.com/ok-at-github/6eca129339350d367aaca4a440ab639a
>
>
>
>
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>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> Can you give an
> example of what the POST payload should look like?
I've tested it by using this example [1].
(It contains some unnecessary /t/r, but it works for me)
Just copy and paste it to e.g. Postman.
Hope this helps, thanks for testing!
If I'll found enough time I'll publish a simple client soon so that testing
will be easier.
Thanks,
Olaf
[1] https://gist.github.com/ok-at-github/6eca129339350d367aaca4a440ab639a
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Olaf,
I have the server up and running locally!
But my escaped mxml code seems to have some problems. Can you give an
example of what the POST payload should look like?
Thanks,
Om
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 2:05 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2017 1:57 PM, "Olaf Krueger" <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I've replaced Express by Restify at server side and revised the server side
> implementation a bit.
> For now, this still is a very simple implementation which is probably
> enough
> to start with.
> I've created a github repo with a short explanation how you can check it
> out
> [1].
>
> Of course, I'd like to put it to one of our Apache repos, but I don't know
> where.
> Could somebody give me a hint?
>
> Has somebody free cycles to check it out locally and more important, make
> it
> available by the mentioned AWS instances (if it works locally for you)?
>
> I will continue with implementing the client by using Royale.
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
> [1] https://github.com/ok-at-github/Apache-Royale-Try-it-now
>
>
> Nice! I will give this a try very soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 17, 2017 1:57 PM, "Olaf Krueger" <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
I've replaced Express by Restify at server side and revised the server side
implementation a bit.
For now, this still is a very simple implementation which is probably enough
to start with.
I've created a github repo with a short explanation how you can check it out
[1].
Of course, I'd like to put it to one of our Apache repos, but I don't know
where.
Could somebody give me a hint?
Has somebody free cycles to check it out locally and more important, make it
available by the mentioned AWS instances (if it works locally for you)?
I will continue with implementing the client by using Royale.
Thanks,
Olaf
[1] https://github.com/ok-at-github/Apache-Royale-Try-it-now
Nice! I will give this a try very soon.
Thanks,
Om
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Hi guys,
I've replaced Express by Restify at server side and revised the server side
implementation a bit.
For now, this still is a very simple implementation which is probably enough
to start with.
I've created a github repo with a short explanation how you can check it out
[1].
Of course, I'd like to put it to one of our Apache repos, but I don't know
where.
Could somebody give me a hint?
Has somebody free cycles to check it out locally and more important, make it
available by the mentioned AWS instances (if it works locally for you)?
I will continue with implementing the client by using Royale.
Thanks,
Olaf
[1] https://github.com/ok-at-github/Apache-Royale-Try-it-now
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Om,
2017-11-27 22:29 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>:
>
> But, given that we are going to point the site royale.apache.org to a
> wordpress.com site, we should be able to embed this `Try it out` app from
> a
> separately hosted server.
>
That's not true. We are creating the website through a worpdress instance
(royale.codeoscopic,com), but we'll be cutting a release exporting a static
html version that will be the one we'll be uploading to royale.apache.org.
>
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> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>
>
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> > I believe we committers have some Azure credits with which we can spin up
> > some VMs that can host this. The last option is for some of us to pay
> and
> > host it somewhere.
> >
>
> I've already offered to host any services the Royale project needs on a
> dedicated AWS VPC, as a donation. I can't donate mega-instances, but I'm
> sure that for now a small or even nano instance will serve us fine until we
> reach world domination ;-)
>
I'll take you up on that :-)
Olaf, if you don't mind, can I start the deployment of the `Try-it-now` app
on Erik's AWS instance?
This way folks can 'try it now' for real and give you feedback.
Thanks,
Om
>
> EdB
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Erik,
I think that would be a good solution for this problem. Thanks for offering
it :)
2017-11-27 23:40 GMT+01:00 Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>:
> > I believe we committers have some Azure credits with which we can spin up
> > some VMs that can host this. The last option is for some of us to pay
> and
> > host it somewhere.
> >
>
> I've already offered to host any services the Royale project needs on a
> dedicated AWS VPC, as a donation. I can't donate mega-instances, but I'm
> sure that for now a small or even nano instance will serve us fine until we
> reach world domination ;-)
>
> EdB
>
>
>
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>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
> I believe we committers have some Azure credits with which we can spin up
> some VMs that can host this. The last option is for some of us to pay and
> host it somewhere.
>
I've already offered to host any services the Royale project needs on a
dedicated AWS VPC, as a donation. I can't donate mega-instances, but I'm
sure that for now a small or even nano instance will serve us fine until we
reach world domination ;-)
EdB
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3521 VB Utrecht
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Great progress, Olaf! This is very exciting.
From what I understand, ASF Infra will not allow any active code running on
their servers. Their charter is to only host static files(images, html,
js, etc.)
But, given that we are going to point the site royale.apache.org to a
wordpress.com site, we should be able to embed this `Try it out` app from a
separately hosted server.
I believe we committers have some Azure credits with which we can spin up
some VMs that can host this. The last option is for some of us to pay and
host it somewhere.
Thanks,
Om
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> I started to work on an HTML mockup for the UI as the first draft [1] and I
> wonder if we really should embed this app within the webpage or if we
> rather
> should open a new window that contains just the app.
> (Without the background image at the top, cause it needs a lot of the
> screen
> size)
>
> I also will start to finish the server side but we should think about on
> how
> to provide the services in parallel.
> (We need a NodeJS installation with access to the file system).
>
> @Alex
> I remember that you offered to host this stuff on your server?
> Is that right?
>
> Or could we go with Apache Infra?
>
> If nothing works I maybe also could provide something...
>
> Thoughts?
> Olaf
>
> [1] https://snag.gy/DQbmwf.jpg
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
That's cool! :)
If you need some help from me in order to integrate with current website
let me know. You already have credentials in the webstite, but maybe for me
could be more easy as I know the tips and tricks to integrate in the
current website.
Thanks!
Carlos
2017-12-04 9:51 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> > sorry to not write before
> No apology needed, this is the Apache way... we all do what we can ;-)
>
> Currently, I am rewriting the server side by using Restify instead of
> Express.
> This is just a few lines of code but it still takes time.
> Then I'll continue the work on the client by going the 'embedded' way!
>
> I'll keep you up-to-date!
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Hi Carlos,
> sorry to not write before
No apology needed, this is the Apache way... we all do what we can ;-)
Currently, I am rewriting the server side by using Restify instead of
Express.
This is just a few lines of code but it still takes time.
Then I'll continue the work on the client by going the 'embedded' way!
I'll keep you up-to-date!
Thanks,
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Olaf,
sorry to not write before, I was very busy this past week and I'm going
through all the mails.
The image you posted is awesome!! good work, I'll continue reading through
the thread.
Thanks for working on this! :)
Carlos
2017-11-27 22:16 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> Hi,
> I started to work on an HTML mockup for the UI as the first draft [1] and I
> wonder if we really should embed this app within the webpage or if we
> rather
> should open a new window that contains just the app.
> (Without the background image at the top, cause it needs a lot of the
> screen
> size)
>
> I also will start to finish the server side but we should think about on
> how
> to provide the services in parallel.
> (We need a NodeJS installation with access to the file system).
>
> @Alex
> I remember that you offered to host this stuff on your server?
> Is that right?
>
> Or could we go with Apache Infra?
>
> If nothing works I maybe also could provide something...
>
> Thoughts?
> Olaf
>
> [1] https://snag.gy/DQbmwf.jpg
>
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Hi Olaf,
2017-11-28 10:13 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> Hi,
>
> >But, given that we are going to point the site royale.apache.org to a
> >wordpress.com site, we should be able to embed this `Try it out` app
> from a
> >separately hosted server.
>
> Ahh... maybe you misunderstood me:
> With 'embed' I just mean if we should make the try-it-now app part of the
> website with the same look and feel or if we should build something that
> looks more like an app than a website an open it in another window.
>
I think we should make the experience as easier as we can for new comers.
We want they land in our home and see the big "Try it now" big button and
click on it. Then go to the page and see the app embedded. The look and
feel you show in the first screen shot is exactly what I was expecting to
get! :)
So pleases, no popups, since could be blocked!. All easy as we can :)
Thanks
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
2017-11-28 13:53 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
>
> I am still learning NodeJS but it seems to me it is straightforward and we
> also could implement some real time stuff maybe a bit easier. (I think in a
> more matured try-it-now version some day it would be cool to return the
> compiler log in real time to the app instead of just showing a spinner)
>
>
I Agree that get the log will be something I'd really like to see in this
app. Other apps similar use to show it, so huge +1 to this feature
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Carlos Rovira <ca...@apache.org>.
Awesome! can wait to see this stuff, keep the great work! :)
2017-11-29 8:56 GMT+01:00 Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>:
> >I will try to get your code working locally first.
>
> If you'll go with this code [1] keep in mind that it was just a quick hack
> ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
> [1] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2632b00bf51bc77565657569217c75a4
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
>I will try to get your code working locally first.
If you'll go with this code [1] keep in mind that it was just a quick hack
;-)
Thanks,
Olaf
[1] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2632b00bf51bc77565657569217c75a4
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Olaf
I will try to get your code working locally first. Then I will push it to
Erik's vm.
We dont need to figure out the db right away. I'm sure mongodb or dynamodb
should work. We can figure that out when we come to that.
Thanks,
Om
On Nov 28, 2017 5:27 AM, "Harbs" <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Installing npm on linux is pretty straightforward.
>
> SSH and a few commands should do it…[1]
>
> I think DynamoDB is the easiest way to use NoSQL on AWS.[2] The Free tier
> will probably be enough for the foreseeable future.[3]
>
> Harbs
>
> [1]http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/install-node-js-npm-linux <
> http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/install-node-js-npm-linux>
> [2]https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/ <https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/>
> [3]https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/pricing/ <https://aws.amazon.com/
> dynamodb/pricing/>
> > On Nov 28, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Olaf,
> >
> >> The instance has a basic PHP stack on it
> >> Although I'm doing PHP since PHP3 I would prefer to go with NodeJS and a
> >> NoSQL DB here.
> >> I am still learning NodeJS but it seems to me it is straightforward and
> we
> >> also could implement some real time stuff maybe a bit easier. (I think
> in a
> >> more matured try-it-now version some day it would be cool to return the
> >> compiler log in real time to the app instead of just showing a spinner)
> >>
> >> Is it a big task with AWS to create a NodeJS instance and to install
> >> additional npm's?
> >>
> >
> > I put that PHP stack on there, I can take it off easily enough. Anyone I
> > give SSH access to can do it.
> >
> > I do not know enough to create a NodeJS stack, nor am I familiar with
> NoSQL
> > databases. But I'm sure someone else is, and I can provide them access to
> > set it up.
> >
> > If we're not going to use the MySQL database, please let me know
> a.s.a.p.,
> > as that is incurring additional costs on my AWS account.
> >
> > Om, how much of Olaf's requests can you deliver, if I give you the access
> > needed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > EdB
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Jan Luykenstraat 27
> > 3521 VB Utrecht
> >
> > T. 06-51952295
> > I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Installing npm on linux is pretty straightforward.
SSH and a few commands should do it…[1]
I think DynamoDB is the easiest way to use NoSQL on AWS.[2] The Free tier will probably be enough for the foreseeable future.[3]
Harbs
[1]http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/install-node-js-npm-linux <http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/install-node-js-npm-linux>
[2]https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/ <https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/>
[3]https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/pricing/ <https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/pricing/>
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
> Olaf,
>
>> The instance has a basic PHP stack on it
>> Although I'm doing PHP since PHP3 I would prefer to go with NodeJS and a
>> NoSQL DB here.
>> I am still learning NodeJS but it seems to me it is straightforward and we
>> also could implement some real time stuff maybe a bit easier. (I think in a
>> more matured try-it-now version some day it would be cool to return the
>> compiler log in real time to the app instead of just showing a spinner)
>>
>> Is it a big task with AWS to create a NodeJS instance and to install
>> additional npm's?
>>
>
> I put that PHP stack on there, I can take it off easily enough. Anyone I
> give SSH access to can do it.
>
> I do not know enough to create a NodeJS stack, nor am I familiar with NoSQL
> databases. But I'm sure someone else is, and I can provide them access to
> set it up.
>
> If we're not going to use the MySQL database, please let me know a.s.a.p.,
> as that is incurring additional costs on my AWS account.
>
> Om, how much of Olaf's requests can you deliver, if I give you the access
> needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Olaf,
>The instance has a basic PHP stack on it
> Although I'm doing PHP since PHP3 I would prefer to go with NodeJS and a
> NoSQL DB here.
> I am still learning NodeJS but it seems to me it is straightforward and we
> also could implement some real time stuff maybe a bit easier. (I think in a
> more matured try-it-now version some day it would be cool to return the
> compiler log in real time to the app instead of just showing a spinner)
>
> Is it a big task with AWS to create a NodeJS instance and to install
> additional npm's?
>
I put that PHP stack on there, I can take it off easily enough. Anyone I
give SSH access to can do it.
I do not know enough to create a NodeJS stack, nor am I familiar with NoSQL
databases. But I'm sure someone else is, and I can provide them access to
set it up.
If we're not going to use the MySQL database, please let me know a.s.a.p.,
as that is incurring additional costs on my AWS account.
Om, how much of Olaf's requests can you deliver, if I give you the access
needed?
Thanks,
EdB
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Hi Erik,
>The instance has a basic PHP stack on it
Although I'm doing PHP since PHP3 I would prefer to go with NodeJS and a
NoSQL DB here.
I am still learning NodeJS but it seems to me it is straightforward and we
also could implement some real time stuff maybe a bit easier. (I think in a
more matured try-it-now version some day it would be cool to return the
compiler log in real time to the app instead of just showing a spinner)
Is it a big task with AWS to create a NodeJS instance and to install
additional npm's?
Thanks,
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Hi,
I just set up the AWS VPC, Load Balancer, RDS and EC2 instance for
'try-it-now'. You can see it in action at:
https://try-it-now.ixms.nl/
Yeah, sorry about that weird domain, we may be able to fix that later, but
for now Om won't let me use 'try-it-now.royalesdk.org' ;-)
The instance has a basic PHP stack on it, and it connects to a small db
instance. Media is served from the CDN located at 'try-it-now-cdn.ixms.nl'
I can give anyone who wants to further set this up SSH (SFTP) access to the
server instance, IAM access to the CDN and root db access. Please provide
me with your IP address and which services you want access to when
requesting access.
Thanks,
EdB
On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >But, given that we are going to point the site royale.apache.org to a
> >wordpress.com site, we should be able to embed this `Try it out` app
> from a
> >separately hosted server.
>
> Ahh... maybe you misunderstood me:
> With 'embed' I just mean if we should make the try-it-now app part of the
> website with the same look and feel or if we should build something that
> looks more like an app than a website an open it in another window.
>
>
> >I've already offered to host any services the Royale project needs on a
> dedicated AWS
>
> This is great and the way we should go these days, thank you!
>
>
> >Yes, I can take care of all that. I will install whatever is needed to
> make this work.
>
> Any kind help is really appreciated!!! I still can just work from time to
> time on this stuff so it will take some time if we have something that
> works.
>
> >Do you need a database?
> We could persist the compiled code by using the filesystem or we go with a
> NoSQL database like CouchDB or MongoDB.
> Because it is probably really simple to build such a DB instance for
> somebody who has AWS knowledge
> we should go with a DB.
>
> I would like to share some thoughts on the server side, maybe you have some
> more ideas.
> If somebody would like to work on this, go ahead! ;-)
>
> I would provide 3 endpoints at first, maybe something like this:
>
> // Get an URL that points to the compiled entity
> GET http://.... /compiler/targets/html?sdfsa78ewqwerqw8
>
> // Update a given Royale entity
> PUT http://.... /compiler/targets/html
>
> // Compile and create a new one
> POST http://.... /compiler/targets/html
>
> The data transfer would be done via JSON, something like this:
>
> {
> "_id": "...",
> "url": "...",
> "source": "",
> "log": "..."
> ...
> }
>
> Thanks,
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Olaf Krueger <ma...@olafkrueger.net>.
Hi,
>But, given that we are going to point the site royale.apache.org to a
>wordpress.com site, we should be able to embed this `Try it out` app from a
>separately hosted server.
Ahh... maybe you misunderstood me:
With 'embed' I just mean if we should make the try-it-now app part of the
website with the same look and feel or if we should build something that
looks more like an app than a website an open it in another window.
>I've already offered to host any services the Royale project needs on a
dedicated AWS
This is great and the way we should go these days, thank you!
>Yes, I can take care of all that. I will install whatever is needed to
make this work.
Any kind help is really appreciated!!! I still can just work from time to
time on this stuff so it will take some time if we have something that
works.
>Do you need a database?
We could persist the compiled code by using the filesystem or we go with a
NoSQL database like CouchDB or MongoDB.
Because it is probably really simple to build such a DB instance for
somebody who has AWS knowledge
we should go with a DB.
I would like to share some thoughts on the server side, maybe you have some
more ideas.
If somebody would like to work on this, go ahead! ;-)
I would provide 3 endpoints at first, maybe something like this:
// Get an URL that points to the compiled entity
GET http://.... /compiler/targets/html?sdfsa78ewqwerqw8
// Update a given Royale entity
PUT http://.... /compiler/targets/html
// Compile and create a new one
POST http://.... /compiler/targets/html
The data transfer would be done via JSON, something like this:
{
"_id": "...",
"url": "...",
"source": "",
"log": "..."
...
}
Thanks,
Olaf
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
> > I'll point a subdomain of the royalesdk.org domain to it, just because I
> > can ;-)
> >
>
> Please don't. We don't want a trademarks discussion at this point :-)
>
No fun! No fair!
:-)
EdB
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Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
> Olaf,
>
> (We need a NodeJS installation with access to the file system).
> >
>
> How about I give you SSH access to a clean instance with Amazon Linux base
> install? Will you be able to take it from there, or would you need me to
> help with installing the server stack? Do you need a database?
>
Yes, I can take care of all that. I will install whatever is needed to
make this work.
>
> In any case, I'll create the VPC etc. tomorrow, up to the server instance.
> I'll point a subdomain of the royalesdk.org domain to it, just because I
> can ;-)
>
Please don't. We don't want a trademarks discussion at this point :-)
>
> EdB
>
Regards,
Om
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295 <06%2051952295>
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl
>
Re: [Try-it-now app] Progress thread
Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Olaf,
(We need a NodeJS installation with access to the file system).
>
How about I give you SSH access to a clean instance with Amazon Linux base
install? Will you be able to take it from there, or would you need me to
help with installing the server stack? Do you need a database?
In any case, I'll create the VPC etc. tomorrow, up to the server instance.
I'll point a subdomain of the royalesdk.org domain to it, just because I
can ;-)
EdB
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