Re: Back on your hands!

[Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>]

On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:49:24AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> So...  can we consider this topic done (with the exception of dalibar  
> getting the last word in response to my last post), at least from the  
> POV of trying to make progress on it here on the Harmony list, and  
> move it over to legal-discuss?  This is a committer-only list, so not  
> everyone can participate, but if we promise to bring the results  
> back, will that work?

I'm fine with moving discussion elsewhere. But I'm not on legal-discuss
precisely because its committer-only.

> If not, shall we start harmony-legal@ list?

That might make sense.

LSD

Re: Harmony project roadmap

[Enrico Migliore <en...@fatti.com>]

Hi Geir

> I think we're all creating it here :)
>
> In terms of roadmap, I'd like to see :
>
> 1) Continue to build on the IBM contribution for classlibraries
>
> 2) Ensure our VM efforts work with IBMs contribution
>
> 3) See if we can find a common VM/classlib interface for all  
> projects, both here and elsewhere, to use for interop
>
> 4) Start work on our infrastructure such as the build structure, and  
> the automated testing structure
>
>
ok

>
> Specifically, are you looking for something to do ?
>
Yes, actually I'm waiting for David Tanzer to upload to the JCHEVM 
modified source tree,
in order for me to compile it with the GCC tool chain on Windows.

ciao,
 Enrico

Re: Harmony project roadmap

["Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>]

I think we're all creating it here :)

In terms of roadmap, I'd like to see :

1) Continue to build on the IBM contribution for classlibraries

2) Ensure our VM efforts work with IBMs contribution

3) See if we can find a common VM/classlib interface for all  
projects, both here and elsewhere, to use for interop

4) Start work on our infrastructure such as the build structure, and  
the automated testing structure



Specifically, are you looking for something to do ?

Here's a quick list off the top of my head :

1) Tools :   How about demonstrating how the IBM contribution can  
self-host the eclipse compiler?  IOW, do 'javac' for us? We need all  
the other tools as well.

2) get JCHEVM and bootVM to work with the IBM contribution

3) Build : we'd like to have a sane build process, being able to kick  
off from the top level and yet have each of the sublevels (enhanced/ 
classlib, enhanced/vm, enhanced/tools) have independent builds and  
artifacts.

4) Build : how about working through some of the build issues  
discussed related to ant vs make vs ....

5) See what it takes to get Kaffe et al to work with the IBM  
contribution so we don't have to use IBMs J9 binary for testing if we  
don't want to


let us know when you're done :)  We'll have more!

geir



On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Enrico Migliore wrote:

> Hi Geir,
>
> when will the project's roadmap be available?
>
> Enrico
>

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Harmony project roadmap

[Enrico Migliore <en...@fatti.com>]

Hi Geir,

 when will the project's roadmap be available?

Enrico

Re: Back on your hands!

[Phillip Rhodes <mi...@cpphacker.co.uk>]

Tim Ellison wrote:

> I'd prefer harmony-legal@ for the same reason as Leo (I can't read
> legal-discuss either).  Better still, legal-discuss-public@
> 

+1 for harmony-legal@

It seems inevitable that we are going to wind up having at 
least some licensing and legal related issues, but I 
personally feel that stuff should be kept out in the
open, not hidden away on a committers only list.  But it's
also mostly just noise on this list, so yeah, I think
harmony-legal@ would be a great idea.



TTYL,


Phil
-- 
North Carolina - First In Freedom

Free America - Vote Libertarian
www.lp.org

Re: Back on your hands!

[Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>]

I'd prefer harmony-legal@ for the same reason as Leo (I can't read
legal-discuss either).  Better still, legal-discuss-public@

Hopefully it will put a stop to those pesky code discussion
interruptions ;-)

Regards,
Tim


Leo Simons wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:49:24AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> 
>>So...  can we consider this topic done (with the exception of dalibar  
>>getting the last word in response to my last post), at least from the  
>>POV of trying to make progress on it here on the Harmony list, and  
>>move it over to legal-discuss?  This is a committer-only list, so not  
>>everyone can participate, but if we promise to bring the results  
>>back, will that work?
> 
> 
> I'm fine with moving discussion elsewhere. But I'm not on legal-discuss
> precisely because its committer-only.
> 
> 
>>If not, shall we start harmony-legal@ list?
> 
> 
> That might make sense.
> 
> LSD
> 

-- 

Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
IBM Java technology centre, UK.