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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2008/12/21 18:58:36 UTC
Re: Enhancing UI
HI BJ,
I have updated http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Living+Document with some UI enhancements suggested
these last months. Could you please elaborate your propostion, I'm not sure to well understand it
Thanks
Jacques
From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>I think this would be best handle by the rendering looking up a text
> string tooltip_$fieldname in the I8n files.
>
> Sven Wesley sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:54 AM:
>> Tool tips for labels/fields would enhance the gui a lot. I've been running a
>> project with ofbiz for a while now and it's a time eater to find out what
>> fields are about.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/11/17 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>
>>> ofcourse then you can enhance the tool tip to handle links
>>> then you could just modify the I8N files without touching code.
>>> "Click here to ($whatever)"
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:38 AM:
>>>> For a first effort, I would think that the tools tips that direct a user
>>>> to the steps would be sufficient.
>>>> that in it self is a large project for a community driven project.
>>>> especially with all the I8n needed.
>>>> like
>>>> "create new ($whatever) by clicking on ($whatever1)tab and click on
>>>> ($whatever2) link"
>>>> could make the tooltip a template and ($whaterver1-2) is the only things
>>>> that is a variable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 11/17/2008 1:51 AM:
>>>>> How to allow to create a party from where it could be needed
>>>>>
>>>>> Following Bruno's suggestion about Compiere UI
>>>>>
>>> http://www.compiere.com/products/product-demos/tour/compiere_window_navigation.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest that we put a link to
>>>>> https://localhost:8443/partymgr/control/createnew everywhere we have a
>>>>> party lookup, using the party
>>>>> label at left of the field. Actually we could generalising everywhere we
>>>>> have a lookup for something.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's easy to click on the Party tab and then on create new. But
>>>>> after reading BJ's reading suggestion
>>>>> http://www.uie.com/articles/design_intuitive/, I think it's an easy way
>>>>> to teach newbies how to do it. Easy for us to introduce, and
>>>>> easy for newbies to use, maybe with a tooltip "click on party to
>>>>> create". This would fill the Condition #2 of the article above
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course being able to show the screen where the choice of the type of
>>>>> party to create is done, and then the screen where data are
>>>>> entered in a CSS hidden/shown window like the calendar would be great
>>>>> and could be our next target. This would allow to not leave the
>>>>> page the user is on and would create a less disturbing environment. But
>>>>> I know that this would also mean to preload these windows in
>>>>> memory and is maybe out of reach at the moment (from a memory POV,
>>>>> without speaking of the code needed). Else we could do the same
>>>>> thing for all the lookups, having them poping up as fast as the
>>>>> calendar. From a code POV, perhaps generalising from the calendar code
>>>>> could be a way
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Enhancing UI
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
As a comment on thepage, or here in the ML as you prefer
Thanks
Jacques
From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
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> not sure where you want me to put this.
>
> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/21/2008 9:58 AM:
>> HI BJ,
>>
>> I have updated
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Living+Document
>> with some UI enhancements suggested these last months. Could you please
>> elaborate your propostion, I'm not sure to well understand it
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>
>>
>>> I think this would be best handle by the rendering looking up a text
>>> string tooltip_$fieldname in the I8n files.
>>>
>>> Sven Wesley sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:54 AM:
>>>> Tool tips for labels/fields would enhance the gui a lot. I've been
>>>> running a
>>>> project with ofbiz for a while now and it's a time eater to find out
>>>> what
>>>> fields are about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/11/17 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>
>>>>> ofcourse then you can enhance the tool tip to handle links
>>>>> then you could just modify the I8N files without touching code.
>>>>> "Click here to ($whatever)"
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:38 AM:
>>>>>> For a first effort, I would think that the tools tips that direct a
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> to the steps would be sufficient.
>>>>>> that in it self is a large project for a community driven project.
>>>>>> especially with all the I8n needed.
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> "create new ($whatever) by clicking on ($whatever1)tab and click on
>>>>>> ($whatever2) link"
>>>>>> could make the tooltip a template and ($whaterver1-2) is the only
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> that is a variable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 11/17/2008 1:51 AM:
>>>>>>> How to allow to create a party from where it could be needed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Following Bruno's suggestion about Compiere UI
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.compiere.com/products/product-demos/tour/compiere_window_navigation.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest that we put a link to
>>>>>>> https://localhost:8443/partymgr/control/createnew everywhere we
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> party lookup, using the party
>>>>>>> label at left of the field. Actually we could generalising
>>>>>>> everywhere we
>>>>>>> have a lookup for something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it's easy to click on the Party tab and then on create new.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> after reading BJ's reading suggestion
>>>>>>> http://www.uie.com/articles/design_intuitive/, I think it's an
>>>>>>> easy way
>>>>>>> to teach newbies how to do it. Easy for us to introduce, and
>>>>>>> easy for newbies to use, maybe with a tooltip "click on party to
>>>>>>> create". This would fill the Condition #2 of the article above
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course being able to show the screen where the choice of the
>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>> party to create is done, and then the screen where data are
>>>>>>> entered in a CSS hidden/shown window like the calendar would be great
>>>>>>> and could be our next target. This would allow to not leave the
>>>>>>> page the user is on and would create a less disturbing
>>>>>>> environment. But
>>>>>>> I know that this would also mean to preload these windows in
>>>>>>> memory and is maybe out of reach at the moment (from a memory POV,
>>>>>>> without speaking of the code needed). Else we could do the same
>>>>>>> thing for all the lookups, having them poping up as fast as the
>>>>>>> calendar. From a code POV, perhaps generalising from the calendar
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> could be a way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Enhancing UI
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
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not sure where you want me to put this.
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/21/2008 9:58 AM:
> HI BJ,
>
> I have updated
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Living+Document
> with some UI enhancements suggested these last months. Could you please
> elaborate your propostion, I'm not sure to well understand it
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>
>
>> I think this would be best handle by the rendering looking up a text
>> string tooltip_$fieldname in the I8n files.
>>
>> Sven Wesley sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:54 AM:
>>> Tool tips for labels/fields would enhance the gui a lot. I've been
>>> running a
>>> project with ofbiz for a while now and it's a time eater to find out
>>> what
>>> fields are about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/11/17 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>
>>>> ofcourse then you can enhance the tool tip to handle links
>>>> then you could just modify the I8N files without touching code.
>>>> "Click here to ($whatever)"
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:38 AM:
>>>>> For a first effort, I would think that the tools tips that direct a
>>>>> user
>>>>> to the steps would be sufficient.
>>>>> that in it self is a large project for a community driven project.
>>>>> especially with all the I8n needed.
>>>>> like
>>>>> "create new ($whatever) by clicking on ($whatever1)tab and click on
>>>>> ($whatever2) link"
>>>>> could make the tooltip a template and ($whaterver1-2) is the only
>>>>> things
>>>>> that is a variable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 11/17/2008 1:51 AM:
>>>>>> How to allow to create a party from where it could be needed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following Bruno's suggestion about Compiere UI
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.compiere.com/products/product-demos/tour/compiere_window_navigation.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that we put a link to
>>>>>> https://localhost:8443/partymgr/control/createnew everywhere we
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> party lookup, using the party
>>>>>> label at left of the field. Actually we could generalising
>>>>>> everywhere we
>>>>>> have a lookup for something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it's easy to click on the Party tab and then on create new.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> after reading BJ's reading suggestion
>>>>>> http://www.uie.com/articles/design_intuitive/, I think it's an
>>>>>> easy way
>>>>>> to teach newbies how to do it. Easy for us to introduce, and
>>>>>> easy for newbies to use, maybe with a tooltip "click on party to
>>>>>> create". This would fill the Condition #2 of the article above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course being able to show the screen where the choice of the
>>>>>> type of
>>>>>> party to create is done, and then the screen where data are
>>>>>> entered in a CSS hidden/shown window like the calendar would be great
>>>>>> and could be our next target. This would allow to not leave the
>>>>>> page the user is on and would create a less disturbing
>>>>>> environment. But
>>>>>> I know that this would also mean to preload these windows in
>>>>>> memory and is maybe out of reach at the moment (from a memory POV,
>>>>>> without speaking of the code needed). Else we could do the same
>>>>>> thing for all the lookups, having them poping up as fast as the
>>>>>> calendar. From a code POV, perhaps generalising from the calendar
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> could be a way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Enhancing UI
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
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Be glad to
:D
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 12/21/2008 9:58 AM:
> HI BJ,
>
> I have updated
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Living+Document
> with some UI enhancements suggested these last months. Could you please
> elaborate your propostion, I'm not sure to well understand it
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>
>
>> I think this would be best handle by the rendering looking up a text
>> string tooltip_$fieldname in the I8n files.
>>
>> Sven Wesley sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:54 AM:
>>> Tool tips for labels/fields would enhance the gui a lot. I've been
>>> running a
>>> project with ofbiz for a while now and it's a time eater to find out
>>> what
>>> fields are about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/11/17 BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>
>>>> ofcourse then you can enhance the tool tip to handle links
>>>> then you could just modify the I8N files without touching code.
>>>> "Click here to ($whatever)"
>>>>
>>>> BJ Freeman sent the following on 11/17/2008 3:38 AM:
>>>>> For a first effort, I would think that the tools tips that direct a
>>>>> user
>>>>> to the steps would be sufficient.
>>>>> that in it self is a large project for a community driven project.
>>>>> especially with all the I8n needed.
>>>>> like
>>>>> "create new ($whatever) by clicking on ($whatever1)tab and click on
>>>>> ($whatever2) link"
>>>>> could make the tooltip a template and ($whaterver1-2) is the only
>>>>> things
>>>>> that is a variable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 11/17/2008 1:51 AM:
>>>>>> How to allow to create a party from where it could be needed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following Bruno's suggestion about Compiere UI
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.compiere.com/products/product-demos/tour/compiere_window_navigation.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that we put a link to
>>>>>> https://localhost:8443/partymgr/control/createnew everywhere we
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> party lookup, using the party
>>>>>> label at left of the field. Actually we could generalising
>>>>>> everywhere we
>>>>>> have a lookup for something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it's easy to click on the Party tab and then on create new.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> after reading BJ's reading suggestion
>>>>>> http://www.uie.com/articles/design_intuitive/, I think it's an
>>>>>> easy way
>>>>>> to teach newbies how to do it. Easy for us to introduce, and
>>>>>> easy for newbies to use, maybe with a tooltip "click on party to
>>>>>> create". This would fill the Condition #2 of the article above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course being able to show the screen where the choice of the
>>>>>> type of
>>>>>> party to create is done, and then the screen where data are
>>>>>> entered in a CSS hidden/shown window like the calendar would be great
>>>>>> and could be our next target. This would allow to not leave the
>>>>>> page the user is on and would create a less disturbing
>>>>>> environment. But
>>>>>> I know that this would also mean to preload these windows in
>>>>>> memory and is maybe out of reach at the moment (from a memory POV,
>>>>>> without speaking of the code needed). Else we could do the same
>>>>>> thing for all the lookups, having them poping up as fast as the
>>>>>> calendar. From a code POV, perhaps generalising from the calendar
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> could be a way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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